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Is Obama Afraid of the J-Word?
Townhall.com ^ | April 7, 2009 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:28:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

According to a new national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, 11 percent of Americans still believe President Barack Obama is a Muslim. Seven percent of Democrats believe it. And nearly 20 percent of evangelicals do.

What I find fascinating is that the same study shows only 55 percent of Democrats know or believe Obama is a Christian, even after Obama spent nearly two years on the presidential campaign trail spouting his views and beliefs on everything under the sun.

Moreover, about 1 in 3 people don't have any idea what his religious convictions are. Should the percentages be that high? Religion might be a private choice, but should it be a secret one, too, even for leaders?

While those stats say something about Obama's neutrality and respect for representing our nation's religious melting pot, they also say something about the politically correct climate across our land, in which people are afraid to stand up for their convictions so as not to be branded as intolerant or bigots. We have become a nation that fears opinion. Even Holy Week, once celebrated in the corridors of the Capitol, is now a clandestine commemoration full of holy hesitations.

America's Founders built this nation upon religious freedom. They valued denominational pluralism. They were unified in their diversity. They all believed in a Creator. And they were almost all vocal about their Christian beliefs. They certainly weren't ashamed. And neither should we be, especially during this week.

I believe in God, just as our Founders did. As Benjamin Franklin noted in his 1787 pamphlet for those in Europe thinking of relocating to America: "To this may be truly added, that serious religion, under its various denominations, is not only tolerated but respected and practiced. Atheism is unknown there."

I also believe in the First Amendment, which reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The American Civil Liberties Union and like-minded groups are not preserving First Amendment rights; they are perverting the meaning of the Establishment Clause (which was to prevent the creation of a national church, such as the Church of England) to deny the Free Exercise Clause (which preserves our right to worship as we want, privately and publicly). Both clauses were intended to safeguard religious liberty, not to circumscribe its practice. The Framers were seeking to guarantee a freedom of religion, not a freedom from religion.

I agree with John Jay -- the first chief justice of the United States, appointed by George Washington -- who wrote to Jedidiah Morse Feb. 28, 1797 (the same year the Treaty of Tripoli was ratified): "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." I believe that we should not fear religious diversity, but we never should forget we were born a Christian nation.

Under Article VI, Section 3 of the new Constitution, denominational tests for public office were prohibited, but the idea that Judeo-Christian ideas and practices must be kept separate from government would have struck our Founders as ridiculous because the very basis for the Founders' ideas were rights that were endowed upon all of us by our Creator.

Many may not realize there was an active clergyman (Presbyterian minister John Witherspoon) among the signers of the Declaration of Independence. And two others had been ministers previously. Others were sons of clergymen. Virtually all were Protestants.

Even signers of the Constitution included Abraham Baldwin, a minister. Others had studied religion but never were ordained. And again, most signers of the Constitution were also Protestants. Two, Charles Carroll and Thomas Fitzsimons, were Roman Catholics.

I, too, respect all religions but adhere to one. I believe what Benjamin Rush -- a signer of the Declaration of Independence and a member of the presidential administrations of Adams, Jefferson and Madison -- wrote: "Such is my veneration for every religion that reveals the attributes of the Deity, or a future state of rewards and punishments, that I had rather see the opinions of Confucius or Mohammed inculcated upon our youth, than see them grow up wholly devoid of a system of religious principles. But the religion I mean to recommend in this place is that of the New Testament."

Like George Washington, I don't believe we can maintain morality and civility apart from a religious foundation: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. … Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."

Mostly, I believe in the collection of beliefs stated so poetically in the Apostles' Creed: "I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ His only Son, our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and buried; he descended to the grave: the third day he rose again from the dead; he ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from where he will come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit; the holy Christian church; the fellowship of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and eternal life. Amen."

No Holy Week hesitations here. His name is Jesus, and I believe he was born into this world to die for the sins of mankind, that whosoever believes in him shall have eternal life -- just as I chose to do decades ago at a Billy Graham crusade in Los Angeles.

Is Obama afraid of the word "Jesus"? I'm not, and maybe that's where my heart and mind should dwell during this period, in which 1 billion people around the world are commemorating his Via Dolorosa. Rather than asking what we believe about Obama's religion, maybe we should be answering what we believe about ours.

Whatever your religious persuasion, don't be ashamed of it. And don't hesitate to let others know where you stand, but do so with respect. This is America. And that's one of the things that still make us a great nation. In God we trust.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; bho44; christianheritage; husseinobama; mooselimbs; muzzie; obama; obamaandgod

1 posted on 04/07/2009 4:28:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Just look for those new presidential prayer rugs, that’ll be a sure sign!


2 posted on 04/07/2009 4:33:23 AM PDT by sweetwaterfish (Keep yer powder dry!)
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To: Kaslin

Personally, I do not believe Obama is a muslim per se. I think that he is most likely an atheist or agnostic which fits better with the communist philosphy that was instilled by his mother.

What I do believe is that Obama suffers profound effects from being abandoned by his muslim father. Among other things, he wishes to ingratiate himself with muslims as a result. This behavior is perilous for the United States at this point in history.


3 posted on 04/07/2009 4:58:50 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; cardinal4

Don’t you find it curious that the moslem leadership hasn’t issued a fatwa against Obama? There’s no question that he’s an apostate moslem. Or is he?


4 posted on 04/07/2009 5:05:59 AM PDT by Ax (You've got to hand it to Venus de Milo)
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To: Kaslin

Chuck Norris is such a nice man, and a true patriot, but he’s not the brightest bulb. I don’t think he realizes that we all know that Obama *claims* to be a Christian: we just think he’s lying!


5 posted on 04/07/2009 5:11:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: Kaslin

What we know for sure is that Obama is a black man with a chip on his shoulder.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 5:15:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: sweetwaterfish

Did he ever actually get a dog? He talked about it, but he talks about a lot of things. Did he get one? Don’t Muslims think dogs are too filthy to own? hmmmmm


7 posted on 04/07/2009 5:15:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Kaslin
He is a muzzie... anyone in denial just needs to watch him kiss the Saudi king's ring and bow and listen to his muzzie loving speech from Turkey and listen to his own admission to george stuffoneupyourbutticus... AND READ HIS OWN BOOKS!

LLS

8 posted on 04/07/2009 5:15:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Venturer

Also, dumb as a sack of hammers, and currently manipulated by whoever controls his teleprompter.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 5:16:39 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Ax

No, and if you read muzzie blogs you will find that they know he is hiding it to help all of islam... they know so you should too!

LLS


10 posted on 04/07/2009 5:16:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

He is a muzzie Jim.

LLS


11 posted on 04/07/2009 5:17:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Also his interview with the New York Times where he says that the evening call to prayer is beutiful and he says the repeats the words in perfect Arabic.


12 posted on 04/07/2009 5:18:11 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta
repeats the words in perfect Arabic

I wonder if he can translate them into Austrian.

ML/NJ

13 posted on 04/07/2009 5:32:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Kaslin

If The One believes in any religion at all, it’s the First Church of the Divine Opportunity.

“Our own advancement, which art like heaven, always be the game. Give us this day your daily bread, and whatever else we can get away with...for we own the kingdom, so ours is the power, and therein our glory. Forever and ever. Amen.”


14 posted on 04/07/2009 5:56:45 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Thats basically how I figure him as well..

Raised Muslim, probably never really believed in much of it...DEFINTELY not a believer in the Bible, judging by the racist joke of a church he attended.


15 posted on 04/07/2009 6:01:48 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: Kaslin
"What I find fascinating is that the same study shows only 55 percent of Democrats know or believe Obama is a Christian, even after Obama spent nearly two years on the presidential campaign trail spouting his views and beliefs on everything under the sun."

C'mon Chuck...Do you think people voted for him because they listened to him? Or even cared about anything he said?

That said, I have to confess that I also believed the American people would be too smart to fall for Obambi's slickness, but I failed to realize until after the fact that no one paid any attention, they just vote for him because he's "cool".

I was talking to a friend of mine and his wife last summer and she said "I dunno, but I really like some of the things that Obama is saying". I'm not exaggerating at all that when I asked her what she liked she couldn't tell me one thing.

And that's the kind of election it was.

16 posted on 04/07/2009 6:24:55 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Venturer

“What we know for sure is that Obama is a black man “

And a white man.


17 posted on 04/07/2009 6:28:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: libs_kma

You said: “I was talking to a friend of mine and his wife last summer and she said “I dunno, but I really like some of the things that Obama is saying”. I’m not exaggerating at all that when I asked her what she liked she couldn’t tell me one thing.”

The same thing happened to me. The wife said she and her husband voted for 0. When I asked what they liked about him, she said she couldn’t point to anything in particular because they don’t pay much attention to the news and politics. They voted for him because this country needs hope and change!

They essentially voted for 0 based on a bumper sticker slogan.


18 posted on 04/07/2009 6:32:28 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: FreeAtlanta
Yes... he was raised a muslim and a communist... he even registered as a muslim in school, while living in Indonesia... I have seen the paperwork... well copies of them. I suspect that is why ALL of his school records are sealed... he is hiding this and many other salient facts.Of this; I have no doubt.

LLS

19 posted on 04/07/2009 6:33:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Can’t wait to see how the 0bamas observe Easter.


20 posted on 04/07/2009 7:31:39 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Can’t wait to see how the 0bamas observe Easter.

I'm predicting they will head to Camp David for a "well-needed rest" and thereby avoid the subject.

Stay tuned.

21 posted on 04/07/2009 2:23:31 PM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: Kaslin; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER

22 posted on 04/07/2009 2:30:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Kaslin

bttt


23 posted on 04/07/2009 8:34:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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