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Obama Names Pope-Basher to Faith-Based Initiative Board
cnsnews.com ^ | April 06, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:37:05 AM PDT by kellynla

President Barack Obama has named to the federal government’s faith-based initiative a gay-rights activist who, last month, described Pope Benedict XVI and certain Catholic bishops as “discredited leaders” because of their opposition to same-sex marriage.

Harry Knox, who is a newly appointed member of Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, is the director of the religion and faith program at the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual activist group.

In addition to his remarks about the Pope, Knox also criticized the Catholic Knights of Columbus as being “foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression” because of the Knights’ support of Proposition 8. The latter was a ballot initiative that amended California’s state constitution to define marriage as being between a man and a woman, and passed in November 2008.

Knox told CNSNews.com that he “absolutely” stands by his criticism of the pope.

"The Pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use," Knox said on Monday, Apr. 6. "We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he's doing a great deal more harm than good -- not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people's lives.”

On Mar. 19, Knox told the San Francisco-based gay newspaper The Bay Area Reporter, “The Knights of Columbus do a great deal of good in the name of Jesus Christ, but in this particular case [Proposition 8], they were foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression.”

The newspaper further reported: “Knox noted that the Knights of Columbus ‘followed discredited leaders,’ including bishops and Pope Benedict XVI. ‘A pope who literally today said condoms don't help in control of AIDS.’”

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“This is exactly the kind of bastardization of common sense that the Obama people are putting forth,” Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League.
1 posted on 04/07/2009 4:37:05 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses; A.A. Cunningham

ping


2 posted on 04/07/2009 4:38:08 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Oh, what a destroyer!   (Barry)

HF

3 posted on 04/07/2009 4:43:47 AM PDT by holden
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To: kellynla
Oh, what a destroyer!   (Barry)

HF

4 posted on 04/07/2009 4:43:48 AM PDT by holden
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To: kellynla
Oh yea...Obama really really deserves an honorary degree from a "Catholic" University./s

I hope you all are happy that this guy is making a mockery of the Church once again. I don't expect anyone to do a thing about it either because ND is not a Christian school.

5 posted on 04/07/2009 4:45:37 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: kellynla

Would Harry Knox call a mosque a “foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression” because of Islams brutal treatment of women???

Probably not.....


6 posted on 04/07/2009 4:56:11 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: kellynla

And the muslim in chief rejected Tony Dungy......and shame on Dungy for speaking so publicly about his faith and then supporting the likes of Obamber.


7 posted on 04/07/2009 4:57:42 AM PDT by Carley (President Obama Dropped a MOAB on America)
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To: kellynla

Obama “The Uniter” just doing what he does best.

What a crock!


8 posted on 04/07/2009 5:03:07 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Carley

A lot of non-political figures were hoodwinked by Obama. It is becoming really clear that Obama is by far the most Anit-Christian/Anti-American president ever.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 5:03:57 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: kellynla
“bastardization of common sense”

a rather succinct description of the Obama administration

another day...another disgrace.

10 posted on 04/07/2009 5:04:43 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"Would Harry Knox call a mosque a “foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression” because of Islams brutal treatment of women???"

The only reason they don't is because they are in the business of kissing Islams arse so they can infiltrate them just like they have our Christian and Jewish elite schools.

Commies go for the children...just like they said they would.

If it wasn't for the fact that they want to take all religion down the tubes, I would say it was brilliant. The problem is, man is not made of flesh and blood alone.

Trying to totally crush the spirit of humans will not work.

11 posted on 04/07/2009 5:06:06 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: RU88
Fr Groschel from EWTN referred to the coming times ahead as, The Persecution.

I don't think he is too far off the mark.

12 posted on 04/07/2009 5:08:40 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Always Right

So now it’s becoming clear that he hates America?

Discouraging that the gimme gimme gimme something taken from the rich crowd didn’t care.


13 posted on 04/07/2009 5:11:41 AM PDT by Carley (President Obama Dropped a MOAB on America)
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To: kellynla

The “change” keeps coming back to haunt us.


14 posted on 04/07/2009 5:11:56 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: kellynla

I am a fourth Degree Knight and The Homosexuals want to destroy the family! Marriage is a smoke screen...

Monogamy defined in the GLADD Database is 3 or fewer Partners!

the Average Homosexual Male has a 50% chance to make it to age 65! It is the Living standard and life expectancy of a US Male in 1860’s..


15 posted on 04/07/2009 5:13:07 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Why is the USA upside down Morally??)
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To: kellynla

So the POTUS sticks it to the 60% of Catholics who voted for him. He knows that they keep voting for Democrat liberals such as Pelosi and Kennedy, so apparently the teachings of their church don’t apply to the voting booth, and they’ll vote for him again in ‘12. Obviously, hand-outs trump faith.


16 posted on 04/07/2009 5:36:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kellynla; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


17 posted on 04/07/2009 5:39:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: mware

Has EWTN been covering this much? I haven’t watched lately except for a couple of Fr. Corapi episodes.


18 posted on 04/07/2009 5:42:16 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: kittymyrib

They fully deserve to have it stuck to them. They were utter fools. The sad thing is that they, who deserve it, have brought persecution to all of the faithful Catholics, whereas these CINOs who voted for him will jettison their faith rather than suffer for it.

And Zero knows it. He knows he can enlist them to give him cover for really sticking it to those who remain loyal to the Faith.

But it has always been like that in times of persecution. The worst oppression comes from one’s own turncoat “brethren,” manipulated by total outsiders who hate the Christian faith.


19 posted on 04/07/2009 5:53:56 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: kellynla
"The Pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use," Knox said on Monday, Apr. 6. "We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he's doing a great deal more harm than good -- not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people's lives.”

This guy does not know Catholic teachings.
20 posted on 04/07/2009 6:04:34 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Earthdweller
Trying to totally crush the spirit of humans will not work.

Looks like it's working pretty good so far...

21 posted on 04/07/2009 6:06:43 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: kellynla

How do you like your buddy Obama now Notre Dame??


22 posted on 04/07/2009 6:07:59 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Old Sarge
The only thing the have done is controlled the media...they haven't crushed anything. It's an illusion. You can't crush the human spirt...it's impossible.
23 posted on 04/07/2009 6:11:33 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

Be glad in your sheltered life. Because the spirit can be crushed. Soviet Russia proved it.


24 posted on 04/07/2009 6:16:00 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: Old Sarge

And Soviet Russia now warns us to not go down the socialist path. The people and the human spirit will rise up...as it always does. Humans were never meant to be slaves.


25 posted on 04/07/2009 6:18:31 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Good point.


26 posted on 04/07/2009 6:21:48 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: kellynla

The destruction of America and her Constitution is going according to plan.


27 posted on 04/07/2009 6:24:45 AM PDT by bgill (This IS my happy face.)
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To: philly-d-kidder
Gay sex is bad hygiene, at best. But a lot of “straight” people defend it because their own sexual practices are just as perverted or “commitment” is a dirty word. I am convinced that a lot of guys are “gay.” because they can't find enough women to put up with all the stuff they want to do. Despite all the birth control women always have the thought that they can get pregnant, ad they know that if you do “it” too often you WILL get pregnant, and they will be “punished” by a baby or punished by the humiliation of an abortion.

This whole attitude is, of course, totally corrosive of the idea of family. How can one have or maintain a family when the only think holding it together as
the thought of pleasure. If that is the thought in your head, then even if you do marry, you are going to cheat, because nothing is ever enough. Family is a matter of loyalty, and to narcissists, loyalty is simply a word.

28 posted on 04/07/2009 6:56:54 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: kellynla
"The Pope Gay community needs to start telling the truth about condom use engaging in risky sexual behavior," Knox said on Monday, Apr. 6. "We are eager to help him continue to do that do that. Until he is we are willing to do that and able, he's we are doing a great deal more harm than good -- not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people's lives.”

There Fixed it

29 posted on 04/07/2009 7:17:17 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


30 posted on 04/07/2009 7:23:29 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: kellynla
"On Mar. 19, Knox told the San Francisco-based gay newspaper The Bay Area Reporter, “The Knights of Columbus do a great deal of good in the name of Jesus Christ, but in this particular case [Proposition 8], they were foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression.”

Knox He may have faith in something (Obama?), but the man is biblically illiterate.

31 posted on 04/07/2009 7:32:57 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama's got Bush's inheritance .......and now he wants your kids'.)
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To: kellynla
God Bless Tony Dungy.

From the AP:

Former Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy declined an invitation, citing scheduling conflicts, a White House spokesman said. Dungy will still advise Obama on fatherhood issues and help lead that effort, the spokesman said.

Dungy, an evangelical Christian, supported efforts in Indiana to ban same-sex marriage in 2007, prompting some criticism from liberal groups last week when the invitation was made public.

Dungy had previously stated he would serve onthe board, but has now begged off. Note that it is the WH and their Poodle Pressthat is saying it was "schedule conflicts."

32 posted on 04/07/2009 7:43:38 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama's got Bush's inheritance .......and now he wants your kids'.)
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To: kellynla; Earthdweller

Well, that’s it. In your face stuff heading into the ND commencement speech. He has to be asked not to come now.


33 posted on 04/07/2009 8:53:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
I don't think they will rescind the invitation.

I had Catholic radio on today and the callers were absolutely beside themselves at all that's going on. I expect that there is going to be a lot of division in the Church over this.

34 posted on 04/07/2009 9:32:30 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
"I expect that there is going to be a lot of division in the Church over this. "

Yep, that's the plan. At least the Catholics will be more aware of this takeover because of the Internet, the Protestant "Ivy League" schools have been long gone for years.

35 posted on 04/07/2009 9:42:46 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Miss Marple
He won't. The president of ND, that is.

This is the ultimate political correctness statement for liberals and progressive modernists infatuated with Obama. They thumb their noses at the Church. This is part of viewing Catholic colleges and their campuses as platforms for liberalism, to advance political causes. This is Liberation theology. As their propaganda lines go, the student "need to hear him speak" because of social justice issues X, Y, and Z. But the unborn are not just forced to the back of the bus, they are thrown under it.

36 posted on 04/07/2009 9:54:55 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
In your face is exactly right. These secular/commies have a grip on all of these schools like a metastasized cancer. They are emboldened and shameless. I hope Catholics smack this down or they will be lose a major battle.

Protestants, even some here on FR, still think Harvard and some of the other founding Colleges are conservative based schools. It's an extremely crucial illusion for the secular/commie "ruling class" to have a degree from one of these institutions.

If this cannot be stopped, the best thing to do would be to very publicly wash your hands of this institution. Of course, then the church will receive false accusations of being racist...but that is already the case anyway.

37 posted on 04/07/2009 10:04:37 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

Most of the universities are terrible. They pretty much ALL have Cultural Marxists and obnoxious secular liberals running the show except for a few small liberal arts colleges with Great Books type programs focused on the Western tradition. There are a few exceptions and the severity varies from program to program or which department. Of the Catholic colleges quite a few essentially have been infiltrated and taken over by anti-Catholics.

But to get into a leadership position in many universities you have to go along with the Frankfurt School agenda, multiculturalism, and anti-Christian liberalism. It is to the point where many do not even know that they do not understand Western civilization. They think that the multiculturalist and Cultural Marxist point of view is normal. You see that in the way Obama is treated with adulation in the media. They are trying to make the Gramsciam, Fabian Socialist, and Cultural Marxist point of view the normal way of looking at things.

When the Obama administration responded to the scandal at Notre Dame, they posed the issue of Notre Dame's Catholic identity in the language of moral relativism and multiculturalism - just one point of view among many, none having any claim to truth except the liberal left-wing one. Well, the idea that a baby being a human being ( a person) is just one point of view of some quaint cultural tradition is their agenda. This is an in-your-face assault on Western Christian civilization. And Notre Dame (nor any other place claiming to be an institution of learning) should not be pandering to this. This is an Abu Ghraib for Catholics (and for all Christians). Obama is going to put on the dog collars and leashes. Right in front of the statue of Our Lady and Jesus. Does evil get any more banal?

38 posted on 04/07/2009 10:21:10 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: kellynla
Obama stated, “We are not a Christian nation.” He has no use for religion, except maybe Islam. And he must especially dislike Catholics - why else appoint somebody this bigoted?
39 posted on 04/07/2009 10:25:39 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

He just said that he has great respect for Islam and Muslims. It seems to be just Christians and Catholics in particular that he has no respect for.


40 posted on 04/07/2009 10:32:46 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Dante3

I’m sure the anti-Catholic element here on FR is in lock step with Obama on this one.


41 posted on 04/07/2009 10:35:19 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Dante3
yea, well after 20 friggin’ years of listening to “Rev” Wrong’s weekly diatribes, I don't know why any one is surprised by anything this guy does...

sad...and we've still got 45 more months of this clown!

42 posted on 04/07/2009 10:43:11 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: jersey117
The World Over, with Raymond Arroyo has been all over the Conscience Clause, and the ND scandal.

His show is live on Friday nights at 8PM

43 posted on 04/07/2009 1:44:54 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

If he has one grain of decency he will not show up.

Even if he does his usual fibbing for an excuse, he should not show up.
The WH Dog got very ill and he felt the Girls needed him to be with them at the Vets.

(if a dog exists by then)


44 posted on 04/07/2009 3:17:47 PM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I would like to see him bow in Reverance and Kiss the Ring of Pope Benedict like he did the Saudi King guy.

Not to be negative but I would bet he would opt not too.


45 posted on 04/07/2009 3:24:01 PM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: mware

I was doing chores while listening yesterday to a EWTN show and I thought I heard that those in power are going to fire the Pres. of ND after his term is up.

Can anyone clarify this?


46 posted on 04/07/2009 3:29:49 PM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: Global2010

I have heard the same rumors. Can not confirm.


47 posted on 04/07/2009 4:09:35 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Global2010
He probably would NOT do that.
He "wouldn't want to offend Muslims" or other non-Christians and non-Catholics.
48 posted on 04/07/2009 5:48:27 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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