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Video sharpens focus on raid
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 30 March, 2009 | WENDY RUDERMAN & BARBARA LAKER

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:43:50 AM PDT by marktwain

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These officers should be fired and prosecuted. It should always be legal to video and audio record public officials in the performance of their public duties.
1 posted on 04/07/2009 4:43:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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Chief Ramsey of DC sniper shooting fame is on the case.

Duran, you’re screwed.

What was doen to this man was a travesty. These officers need to be fired and investigated, Thsi is not the first time thatey have done this, They even surmised the system was viewable at hoime.

And since when is a Ziplock bag an illegal commodity? How did the police intend to prove intent when there was no video of the ziplock transaction the warrant was based upon?

Duram pled no contest on his attorney’s advice, no doubt, to make the situation go away.

Filtydelphia never changes. Where is the wonderful Mayor in all of this? Probably crying in his beer that his buddy Mumia’s case was rejected by the Supreme Court.

William Penn would take a cane to all of them.


2 posted on 04/07/2009 4:53:40 AM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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If this report is right, these officers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and each of them should do gaol time.


3 posted on 04/07/2009 4:58:00 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Something that is not mentioned in this story is WHY the officers destroyed the surveliance system. Is that part of their procedure manuals or training?

You would think they would want to preserve as much evidence as possible to bolster their case and prove they acted according to law. Instead they destroyed the camera system.

But no one asked the officer WHY they felt they had to disable them (it’obvious to us)

What LAW or PROCEDURE says “disable all video when conducting a raid”


4 posted on 04/07/2009 5:01:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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And Duran should sue the city and walk away with a big check if the facts are as presented.


5 posted on 04/07/2009 5:02:01 AM PDT by DB
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This is hardly news in philly.
Good Lord, they once dropped a firebomb on a house and burned down an entire city block.
Now, I don’t side with MOVE or any trash like them, and they had kind of barricaded themselves in there with weapons, but that was a wee bit over the top...

Business as usual.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 5:05:10 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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What LAW or PROCEDURE says “disable all video when conducting a raid”

My question exactly. Like when the BART cops started collecting cell phones after the New Years Eve murder... by what authority?

7 posted on 04/07/2009 5:12:23 AM PDT by papertyger
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Now, I don’t side with MOVE or any trash like them, and they had kind of barricaded themselves in there with weapons...

Me neither, but is there any excuse for kicking a subdued individual in the head?

Wonder what ever happened to that cop...as if the lack of knowing doesn't speak volumes.

8 posted on 04/07/2009 5:16:21 AM PDT by papertyger
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Shame on any city that employs thugs like this and gives them badges to pillage private businesses. The police chief should be fired for letting these criminals run amok.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 5:26:57 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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If this is true, then all the police involved should do jail time and the Chief should be fired. The victim should walk away with a fat check from the city.


10 posted on 04/07/2009 5:57:19 AM PDT by dinodino
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The misconduct alleged in this story is bad enough.

And I know there are a lot of great LEOs out there, but...

Busting this store owner for allegedly selling plastic food bags? Drug paraphenalia or not, I find it difficult to believe that the police couldn't find anyone in the city of Philadelphia who was actually dealing drugs to bust.

Let's assume that the police are successful in closing down every convenience store that sells plastic bags so that there are no more plastic bags in the city of Philadelphia. Is that really going to put a damper on the illegal narcotics trade?

And let's say everything the officers did was justified. How much of the justice system was tied up over a grocery store owner selling plastic baggies?
11 posted on 04/07/2009 6:11:41 AM PDT by chrisser (The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
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What LAW or PROCEDURE says “disable all video when conducting a raid”

Probably the same one that tells SWAT teams to shoot any dogs on sight, from a pit bill to a sleeping toy poodle.

Stomping on kittens by the BATF isn't in the manual, but it is fun to get some blood on their jackboots.

12 posted on 04/07/2009 6:21:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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These CORRUPT police need to be tried and put to death. Life imprisonment is WAY too good for them! Set an EXAMPLE.


13 posted on 04/07/2009 6:22:09 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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Same goes for “cops” in ski masks,
or covering their badge numbers with tape,
or ordering someone to stop filming,
or taking any action that conceals what they are doing.

If what you’re doing is within the law,
there should be no reason to do any of these things.


14 posted on 04/07/2009 6:24:45 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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Those officers didn’t trash the store, they were just on their donut break....


15 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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This whole thing is predicated on a terrible state “baggie” law. Every lawmaker who voted for this should be identified and ridiculed. Meanwhile, these punk-ass cops need to have their personal property destroyed.


16 posted on 04/07/2009 7:39:36 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (As 0bama punishes us, we are punishing his supporters ten fold.)
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Oink.


17 posted on 04/07/2009 10:04:21 AM PDT by jimt
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18 posted on 04/08/2009 9:43:58 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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:-0 Talk about corruption caught on tape. Good thing the store owner had another camera running! We used to live in Philly. There’s so much crime the police don’t bother coming out for the “little crimes” like car break-ins. But, apparently, these officers had plenty of time to harrass a storeowner over ziplock baggies, disable his surveillance cameras, and then raid his store.


19 posted on 04/08/2009 10:42:44 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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This is just another reason why the war on some drugs should be ended. We’ve given these thugs the ability to pillage at will.


20 posted on 04/09/2009 11:45:06 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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