Vermont legalizes gay marriage with veto override

Associated Press ^

[wk4bush2004]

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Vermont has become the fourth state to legalize gay marriage — and the first to do so with a legislature's vote.

[Neoliberalnot]

Simply boycott the states that allow the deviants to gain power over the asylum.

[massmike]

For anyone that believes the gays three main talking points,(it won’t be taught in schools,it won’t affect anyone else,it won’t affect churches or private organizations),here’s a few eye-opening links.(And there’s plenty more where these came from!)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/11/MNFG13F1VG.DTL

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54683

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54708

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46945

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54420

http://www. undergroundjournal. net/igroops/theunderground/adminpages/Its-1984-In-Massachusett

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/print/9720/

http://www.sovo.com/2008/8-1/news/localnews/8943.cfm

http://mainstreamiowan.blogspot.com/2007/07/lesbian-couple-sues-methodist-owned.html

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/dec/07120306.html

[DungeonMaster]

Misery loves company.

[seatrout]

Like I said, propose a trade, FOCA for One Man/One Woman; the passage of one being contingent on the passage of the other.

[NinoFan]

Um, what? Banning gay marriage between consenting adults is so important that we should enshrine the slaughter of innocents in our Constitution? What kind of sense does that make? The trade you suggest is sick.

[massmike]

http://www.undergroundjournal.net/igroops/theunderground/adminpages/Its-1984-In-Massachusett

[golf lover]

Here’s what happened! Vermont’s Dairy Farms: 1947-11,206 farms to 2003-1,459 farms and probably less now with up to date 2009 data.

[zaphod3000]

They are already challenging Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), and have a pretty good case:

. . . The target is the Defense of Marriage Act, passed by Congress in 1996, which prohibits the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriage. That law denies federal benefits, like Social Security survivors’ payments, to spouses in such marriages. . . . .

The suit, to be filed in Federal District Court in Boston, does not challenge a separate provision of the act that says states do not have to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.

. . . In our view, it’s a straightforward equal-protection issue,” said Mary L. Bonauto, civil rights project director for the [Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders], referring to the constitutional mandate that laws be applied equally to everyone. . . .

While the Government Accountability Office has identified more than 1,100 federal statutory provisions in which marital status is a factor in rights and benefits, the suit focuses narrowly on equal protection as applied to Social Security, federal income tax, federal employees and retirees, and the issuance of passports.

[nutmeg]

Please all conservative who are against this get out of New England, it is not the place where you grew up

My husband and I are seriously considering moving to FL (or another Red State) for mostly the same reasons (liberal agenda, high taxes, gay state, etc.) More sunshine per day and warmer weather (snow plow bills, heating bills, snow tires) would be nice as well. We can't just abandon our life and certain family members up here yet, though... it will take a few years.

Do you think FL will remain a mostly-red state? I was really dismayed to see FL turn blue during the last election. Hubby and I were in FL last month for nearly 2 weeks... we were stunned to see so many Obama stickers on FL cars. :-(

[seatrout]

—Banning gay marriage between consenting adults is so important —

Yes. Abortion has always been with us EVEN WHEN IT WAS ILLEGAL. Even during the 50s it was somewhere in the six-figures (exact estimates are impossible since it was illegal virtually everywhere). But same-sex “marriage” will turn the marital institution into a laughinstock—it has already done so in Western Europe. If two people of the same sex can “marry”, young people will say, then what’s the point of marriage. They’ll see it as a pointless exercise; less work to just “shack up.”

[Sherman Logan]

I think you’re forgetting who is in power now.

I’d be willing to be a significant sum that a Supreme Court, with a 6 to 3 liberal edge after Obama appoints a couple, will ignore previous law and declare that all states must recognize any other state’s marriage. This will take place before the 2016 elections.

Or for that matter, I won’t be surprised if the Court declares prohibition of gay marriage unconstitutional. If the Iowa Supreme Court can do so, why not the US Supreme Court?

[rmlew]

I believe that all of these are the results of Kritocratic tyranny. Coiurt ruled and legislatures rubber stamped. The people, bent over and took it.

PS. How goes the attempt of the CT legislature to decide how the Catholic Church will be run?

[Sherman Logan]

The only way to make this work would be to incorporate them into a single amendment.

I don’t see any reason liberals would go along. They’re getting everything they want now anyway. Why would they give up something they want, to get something they already have?

[roses of sharon]

We must overthrow the MSM/DNC/Hollywood/Academia war room, they have had the monopoly on the public’s ear for far to long.

With no discussions on the perils of anal sex, the men in hospitals with torn bowels, nothing but a vague AIDS discussion, with a narrative of homosexuals as innocent victims and a put upon minority group.

And no pics of this:

http://folsomstreetfair.org/photos/

[manc]

I sent you a private message explaining a few things
let me know what you think please

[manc]

agreed
the GOP had better get ore vocal here, screw the name calling they the left have been using that to silence us and it is not working now

they account of 5% of the population yet there is so much fact and numbers about them being sick , dying,disease, serial killers, child molesters etc

we have to counter the Hollywood for two girls being together is sexy, it is not the lesbians are not Hollywood they are manly looking wearing strap ons

men who are doing it are poking in a hole where our waste comes out and then they suck it

disgusting and not cool
yes it is sick and visual but I found it is the only way for us normal people to understand how sick these people are

[Bitsy]

Sounds like you have a plan and a GOOD one at that. The buck stops down south! I’m on board.I agree all conservatives should move down south and let the libs ruin their socialistic states the way they see fit. I am glad I don’t have to share my air with those liberal loons.

[gleeaikin]

“VT was once the most conservative state in the union”

Some conservatives of a libertarian bent believe that the private behavior of consenting adults is nobody else’s business. Some also wonder why the State has to dictate whom a person may love and commit to.

One evening I was sitting in my kitchen consoling a friend who was crying intensely. My 7 year old son came in for a snack. My friend stopped crying and asked if the crying was bothering my son. “No,” said my boy, “it’s not my pain.” Then he picked up his snack, gave my friend a reassuring pat on the shoulder and left the room. Probably the sanest piece of behavior I had seen in a long time.

[manc]

I really would love to see millions of conservatives not republicans move out of their liberal states

think about it they will lose money red state gets mroe money
we have the second amendment recognised to people who go to church not laughed at
we would increase the electoral college count too

CO would go up and CA is a state we would never win now anyway same as New England
I know it would be a huge sacrifice to move but my wife did it and after the first year she said it was the best move

from VA to FL to all the way to CO to MT it would be all red for generations.

If this happened then this would be the biggest night mare for liberals as they would never get any of their agenda’s passed down here and out west.

It’s a dream but we all have to have dreams and maybe it would come true one day, I am 40 so here’s hoping it happens before I die and my kids can grow up ina conservative place with real traditional values of family, respect and manners

[BlueStateBlues]

SupremeCourt will “bend over” at some point.

This week alone the gay agenda’s main objective doubled its win total. Two states gone, with the entire movement revved up to topple more. Where do we hold them? (no comments on that last line).

What the right side of the culture war needs is a new way of looking at this. Do we defend, or do we come up with a new angle for a court case. Ideas please.