Concerned resident aims to form armed militia to patrol Stockton

Record ^ | April 07, 2009 6:00 AM | By David Siders Record Staff Writer

[jerri]

STOCKTON - A retired truck driver and Vietnam War veteran said Monday that he is forming an armed militia - mostly men with rifles and armbands, four to a car - to patrol Stockton this summer, when at least 43 police officers are to be laid off.

[ClearCase_guy]

I’d like to see a lot more of this. But I suspect that it’s illegal — at least in states like MA where I live.

[Frantzie]

The implosion of MexiFornia. The fools in this state will keep voting Dem.

[TheZMan]

Good for them. They are taking this straight from the Constitution.

[Zeddicus]

I live in MA too; not sure if it's actually illegal. We do have concealed carry (I have an unrestricted license to carry myself), and so far as I know, open carry is also not illegal.

Of course, being a "may issue" state, we constantly have to worry about our police chiefs yanking our LTCs if we do something to make them think we're "unsuitable".

If enough of us have the guts to put this to the test, what are they really going to do?

[DTogo]

So We The People are just supposed to bend over and let criminals run wild?

[wac3rd]

As long as welfare, food, free education, healthcare, public housing, bilingual education, colelge admission, Affirmative Action and everything in everyday life being written and spoken in Spanish...the Dems do not care about where the votes come from or the social or cost of crime...power is the goal, period.

[dblshot]

Bunch if old men thinking they are Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino.

[rlmorel]

No.

We are also expected to supply the lubricant.

Out of our own pocket.

[pissant]

Why not? We are told we have to let the illegal alien invaders trample our property. And if you do something, you get sued by the illegals and the ACLU and likely the Justice Dept. The tree of liberty is in sore need of water.

[a fool in paradise]

Wonder if any former police officers will be along for the ride. Or do they just work for the pay?

[Califreak]

Agreed, but the hand wringing has already started with the mayor whining about “untrained” citizens on patrol.

Most of them are ex-military. How did they get to skip basic?

These are the kind of people who will get Waco’d in the future, because this is definitely not what our government, especially Zero, has in mind when mentionng the civilian defense force.

[B-Chan]

I applaud the effort. It’s a good idea — get rid of the Blue Army and let armed neighborhood watch groups do the policing.

That being said: I sure hope this guy has a good lawyer and nice, deep pockets. He’s going to need both.

[Frantzie]

Your are 100% correct. It is all about power (and money) for the Democrats. The Republians are marginally better or less evil.

[BenLurkin]

Bermuda shorts and pith helmets.

[OneWingedShark]

>But I suspect that it’s illegal — at least in states like MA where I live.

Is it? Check out your state constitution.

[jerri]

Bermuda shorts and pith helmets.

Now I got that image stuck in my head.

[OneWingedShark]

The tree of liberty is in sore need of water blood.

Fixed.

[DTogo]

Indeed, while the Tree of Liberty withers away, it's natural manure has been piling up for years.

A very healthy application is long overdue.

[DieHard the Hunter]

> I’d like to see a lot more of this. But I suspect that it’s illegal — at least in states like MA where I live.

I’m not too keen about this. Armed yahoos in cars do not have any legitimacy in law — particularly if they do not have the Mayor’s blessing.

If implemented, this can only end in tears.

[klb99]

I think it’s great. What a bunch of weenies we have in the USA now. If you want to get your BP up, read the comments from the Stockton folks. They’re scared to death of “untrained armed men” driving around. Like the Colonists/Revolutionaries weren’t.........we have sure come a long way from our founding. Dhimmies.....afraid to stand up to or for anything.

[AngelesCrestHighway]

Bermuda shorts and pith helmets....

Whatever works.....join the cause!

[BubbaBasher]

Here's the REAL problem.

"We are not at the point that we need to have armed militias patrolling Stockton," Vice Mayor Kathy Miller said.

Mayor Ann Johnston said, "Oh, no no no no, no no no. ... We don't want armed citizens out there who are not trained."

[TheZMan]

“because this is definitely not what our government, especially Zero, has in mind when mentioning the civilian defense force”

Maybe not, but that’s what they’re going to get :)

[ClearCase_guy]

If implemented, this can only end in tears.

If not implemented, it ends in tears as well.

I see no good future here, until the rapture comes.

[stormer]

"Can my people wear badges, armbands?"

[Califreak]

Liberal chicks, or just chicks period?

[Trod Upon]

People are forming up all over the country. Best keep quiet until needed, lest you get the Weaver family treatment.

[redstateconfidential]

Ann Johnston, big time Hillary/Obama supporter.

[EggsAckley]

DieHard.......have you ever been to a California inland town? Stockton is getting pretty bad these days. I can certainly understand these peoples’ motivations. I just hope the “bravado” level doesn’t go nuclear.

My little mountain neighborhood is not as organized yet, but we’re all watching out for each other.

To quote David Byrne: “nobody makes a monkey outta me.”

[BubbaBasher]

It’s obviously not ALL chicks(we love you Sarah), but the overwhelming majority hate guns and the thought of wild-eyed vigilante maniacs driving around with them makes them crazy. The new sheriff in San Diego? is another example.

[Billg64]

open carry illegal

[fr_freak]

Mayor Ann Johnston said, "Oh, no no no no, no no no. ... We don't want armed citizens out there who are not trained."

I'm sure these guys can figure out how to eat donuts and shoot family pets on their own.

[Califreak]

>Ann Johnston, big time Hillary/Obama supporter.<

This explained it all and confirmed my initial suspicion.

[Malsua]

>>>I live in MA too; not sure if it’s actually illegal

http://opencarry.org/maps.html

Lots of good information there.

[jerri]

Mayor Ann Johnston said, "Oh, no no no no, no no no. ...

This is our verbally eloquent mayor speaking.

[ladyjane]

From what I hear getting a permit for concealed carry in MA depends completely on where you live. Some places, e.g., City of Boston, it is just about impossible to get concealed carry.

[militant2]

Badges?? We don’ need no steenking badges!!

Militant

[mosaicwolf]

Legal? Illegal? When the Constitution is trashed by our own Government legal and illegal mean different things to different people. All power, political and otherwise comes out of the barrel of a gun. Sounds scary but if you give it some real deep thought, you will see it is the truth.

[visualops]

That’s why they want the immigration laws suspended so they can count the illegals.

[Zeddicus]

From what I hear getting a permit for concealed carry in MA depends completely on where you live. Some places, e.g., City of Boston, it is just about impossible to get concealed carry.

This is true. I am fortunate to live in a rural town well outside of Boston. Our PD are good people and are supportive of citizens' rights. My wife and I both got unrestricted LTCs with no problem.

[visualops]

[B-Chan]

And plant drugs and guns on innocent people! Don’t forget that vital law enforcement skill!

[LearsFool]

You’re exactly right.

(It’s sad to see our republic fall to the despotism of the national government.)

[Nathan Zachary]

"Good for them. They are taking this straight from the Constitution."

Does Sweden follow the US constitution's 2nd amendment too?

[Nathan Zachary]

Oops, my bad, I thought it said Stockholm. LMAO

[nufsed]

You’re giving too much credit to illegals. The south and east of Stockton has always been a pit in my memory.

[Misterioso]

You couldn’t get me in a car full of armed men cruising the ‘hood. They are sitting ducks for any “sniper” behind a fence.

[WOBBLY BOB]

only highly trained officers should handle guns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj4yUpR1PB0

[nufsed]

It takes about 5 officers to fill a 22/7 patrol car. That’s 1 per car per shift, vacation, days off, sick time, etc.

If they lay off 43, they’ll have about 8 fewer cars on the street at any given time or 4 if the officers double up.

That’s a lot in a crime ridden town like Stockton.