Judaism in the Year of Darwin (a MUST read!)

BN via Discovery Institute ^ | April 5, 2009 | David Klinghoffer

[CottShop]

Thanks for the verse- there’s several others as well- it is VERY evident that modern judges don’t care a whit about upholding hteir sacred oath of office

[MrB]

Liberal ideology is outright defiance of God’s laws.

There is no way a liberal that claims to be Christian can justify his ideology against the “main and plain” of the scriptures.

[stormer]

Godwin’s Law in action.

[Zionist Conspirator]

The second response to Klinghoffer's article:

"...But frum Jews have no doubt that life was purposefully designed by our Creator...."

C'mon, one of the many things that sets Jews apart from our christian friends is that Jews have doubt and encourage doubt. It is this skepticism that has kept us ahead of the game in educating our youth. If we don't continue to "preach" a skepticism to our children, we will surely perish.

Here we have in a nutshell the modern liberal Jew's understanding of Jewishness: the modern, skeptical, naturalistic reaction to chr*stian "faith" and biblicism. In other words, Judaism is defined by chr*stianity rather than by itself--a phenomenon I call "J*sus envy."

The modern world simply cannot get into its head that the Biblical Israelites of the Book of Joshua were Jews. Moderns read Joshua and see Cossacks, or medieval Spanish inquisitors, or Baptist Ku-Klux Klanners, but they don't see Jews.

As far as the modern world is concerned, the "Biblical Israelites" evolved into medieval Catholic bigots who in turn evolved into Southern Baptists. "Jews," on the other hand, seem to have popped up out of nowhere a mere two thousand years ago, killed J*sus, established the American Civil Liberties Union, received the first Nobel Physics Prize, and began writing the libretto to Die Dreigoschenoper.

[count-your-change]

You misstate the argument. Darwin was not a Hitler but he did provide what seemed to be a scientific justification for the circular reasoning of the survival of the fittest to be considered only the fittest survive.

[Just mythoughts]

Does the Bible record anything regarding ethnicity in those that would idolize the creation rather than the Creator? I do not find ethnicity as prerequisite in the dirtworshiper movement.

[qam1]

What was General Juan Manual de Rosas’ religion?

How old did he think the earth was?

Did he believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis?

[Liberty1970]

In 1833 he made the acquaintance of General Juan Manual de Rosas, who was busy liquidating the Indian population of southern Argentina. "This war of extermination," Darwin wrote in a cheerful letter home, "although carried on with the most shocking barbarity, will certainly produce great benefits; it will at once throw open four or 500 miles in length of fine country for the produce of cattle." The "extermination" (a favorite word of Darwin in his writings) of failed races, whether animal or human, is a great theme in his books and a key feature in the advance of the evolutionary process as he conceived it.

In The Descent of Man (1871), Darwin prophesied: "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races."

I'm guessing you didn't read this bit. Can't stand in the way of progress, and all that.

[atlaw]

Before Darwin, Law students studied Blackstone’s commentary on the law as the basis of their legal theory. Blackstone’s commentaries were based in the Judeo-Christian/Biblical foundation. IE, law was based on the objective natural Law of God.

This was replaced at Harvard, post-OoS, with the “evolved case-law” legal theory. One with no basis and subject to the whims of “smart people” like judges who could arbitrarily change the laws because they knew better.

Sheer balderdash. Where do you get this nonsense?

[MeanWestTexan]

Yeah, it’s like we stuggle with G-d or sumthin.

[Liberty1970]

Did he believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis?

If he believed Genesis, then he should have followed through and acted consistently with those beliefs. Consistent application of biblical beliefs involves self-sacrifice, love and concern for your neighbor. We are accountable to God for all that we do and will be judged accordingly.

Consistent application of Darwinism involves shooting your neighbor, impregnating his wife and seizing his property.

Ideas have consequences.

[Liberty1970]

Sheer balderdash. Where do you get this nonsense?

I agree with that balderdash. How do you explain the last 150 years of legal theory? This is well known to legal scholars, and I imagine evolutionary legal scholars agree with the facts as well as any creationist. They just rationalize that the abandonment of objective law is a 'good' thing.

[GodGunsGuts]

==Most Jews are just too educated and intelligent and know the Bible too well to be Creationists.

Like the Christian church, Judaism has been infiltrated by materialists who have duped many into believing that Darwin’s materialist creation myth = science. However, just like the classical teaching of the Christian Church, the classical Rabbis (who I think we can all agree knew the Hebrew Bible VERY well) overwhelmingly taught the following:

Classical Rabbinic Teachings

The vast majority of classical Rabbis hold that God created the world close to 6,000 years ago, and created Adam and Eve from clay. This view is based on a chronology developed in a midrash, Seder Olam, which was based on a literal reading of the book of Genesis. It is considered to have been written by the Tanna Yose ben Halafta, and cover history from the creation of the universe to the construction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. This chronology is widely accepted among most of Orthodox Judaism today.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewsevolution.html

[Poison Pill]

So, attempting a scientific explanation puts one in league with Hitler, David Duke and the Stormfront whackjobs? This article is a complete, over the top, load of crap.

[allmendream]

The more educated someone is the less likely they are to believe in Creationism.

Jews are usually quite well educated. Thus they, as a group, are unlikely to be Creationists.

Creationism is the domain of the ill educated, the under educated, and the ignorant; as your many postings from Creationists sources shows.

They don’t know science, and they don’t know how to write, and their arguments and juvenile name calling and conspiracy mongering.

[savagesusie]

Not quite. It is perfect logic... Darwin was an atheist. Hitler was an atheist who accepted Darwin’s philosophy because it fit in so nicely with his atheism—human life has no intrinsic value. In fact, humans are nothing more than animals.

Atheism leads to the loss of any respect or concern for human life (especially that of the weak and helpless), leads to moral relativism (you decide what is evil and good), and immorality reigns because there is no afterlife, therefore, no need for reflection and remorse for actions on earth.

Hitler was evil and Darwinism can lead one into evil and when it becomes the prevalent religion as it did in Germany, it is evil. Watch Ben Stein’s movie, “Expelled”. Without the intertwining ribbon of Judeo Christian religion, Darwinism is evil.

[RightwayConservative]

Wow..

[stormer]

I'll do the translation if need be.

[GodGunsGuts]

So, attempting a scientific explanation puts one in league with Hitler, David Duke and the Stormfront whackjobs?

Scientific explanation? What scientific explanation would that be?

[MrB]

Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself, or believe you did?

John Bunyan wrote about that same argument by atheists,

330 YEARS AGO.

Nothing new under the sun, and those who think they are the “elite” and “the highly educated” are just retreads of old arguments.

Meanwhile, this hasn’t changed either:
Col 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.