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Thousands of children wrongly diagnosed with dyslexia
The Telegraph ^ | 4/7/2009

Posted on 04/07/2009 5:24:44 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Professor Joe Elliott, from Durham University, believes many parents with children who have difficulty in literacy lessons push for them to be diagnosed with dyslexia so they can get the extra support they need.

Prof Elliott says this leads to children being falsely labelled and ignores the fact there are simply many children who struggle to read and should be given help at an early age.

The academic, a director of research at the university's School of Education, said: "Many of the messages that I have received from parents have pointed out that the system has forced them to use the dyslexic label in order to access additional resources.

"Parents believe that if their child were to be diagnosed as dyslexic, clear ways of solving their problems would emerge."

Prof Elliott's views are provocative and he sparked controversy following his appearance on the Channel 4 programme Dispatches: The Dyslexia Myth, screened four years ago.

In it, he claimed to have little confidence in his ability to define dyslexia, let alone diagnose it, despite 30 years in the field.

Part of the problem, according to Prof Elliott, is that dyslexia is not easily identifiable.

One recent study into the condition identified 28 slightly different definitions of the term. The symptoms typically associated with it include everything from poor short-term memory to clumsiness.

"Not only do these blend into other diagnoses, such as dyspraxia, but they are also commonly found in people who are not considered dyslexic", he said.

Prof Elliott argues that a diagnosis is a hollow victory for many parents, not least because there is no clear evidence that any one teaching approach is more suitable for dyslexics than any other group of poor readers.

Instead of spending time, energy and money on diagnosis, he believes that resources could be

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1 posted on 04/07/2009 5:24:44 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Dyslexics of the world untie!


2 posted on 04/07/2009 5:26:10 PM PDT by durasell
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To: bruinbirdman

It is what is called a “line-of-sight disease.”

There is a lot of that when special interest groups and the government funds stuff.


3 posted on 04/07/2009 5:28:50 PM PDT by edcoil (Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner Liberty is a well-armed lamb)
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To: bruinbirdman

Have mods fix title. It should be “lysdexia”


4 posted on 04/07/2009 5:29:26 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: durasell

WE WUZ DOBBER!


5 posted on 04/07/2009 5:29:47 PM PDT by relictele
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To: bruinbirdman

This all too common in the United States. If your child can’t read or write they get labeled as “Autistic” so the the school can receive extra federal money.

This is why there is an explosion in ‘autism’ diagnoses nationwide. Two working parents who don’t invest the time in proper child rearing and making sure Johnny/Suzy does their homework.

Now, of course there are legitimate cases of Autism — don’t get me wrong.

But people now know how to game the system and blame a disease for their lack of proper parenting.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 5:30:18 PM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Autism has been redefined so broadly to the point that 1 out of 160 children have it.
7 posted on 04/07/2009 5:30:31 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Many of the messages that I have received from parents have pointed out that the system has forced them to use the dyslexic label in order to access additional resources.

Follow the money. Using children to get more money.


8 posted on 04/07/2009 5:30:31 PM PDT by BeckB
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To: bruinbirdman
!em deloof a'dluoc 'ay ,lleW

(scisedsyl 'niggirf)

Spow noonerisms are torth the wime.

9 posted on 04/07/2009 5:30:41 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Parents can shift the blame to a “disorder” and they won’t feel guilty. Same goes when a child misbehaves...ADD*cough*


10 posted on 04/07/2009 5:32:05 PM PDT by Redgirl (Quick, someone change the locks!)
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To: WaterBoard
"If your child can’t read or write they get labeled as “Autistic” so the the school can receive extra federal money."

The state will also up the welfare mother's stipend for a "disabled child".

yitbos

11 posted on 04/07/2009 5:33:45 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman
...push for them to be diagnosed with dyslexia...

Sad, they actually have Aixelsyd.

12 posted on 04/07/2009 5:35:10 PM PDT by txroadkill (Medicare, Medicaid and now MediCar)
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To: Redgirl

If they had the ADD dodge for kids who just misbehave I wold have been drugged out of my mind by the time I was 9.

I had to wait until I was in college to do that to myself! ;)

Seriously, I feel sorry for any rambunctious MALE kid today. He will be drugged into total submission and any and all energy stolen from him. Parents who facilitate this should burn in Heck.


13 posted on 04/07/2009 5:36:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: bruinbirdman

My late wife had an odd ability. She could write mirror writing. She would write down a sentence or as much as you would want and just as fast as one does normally. When she finished you could hold it up to a mirror and it would read perfectly.


14 posted on 04/07/2009 5:38:29 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t know as much about dyslexia but the brain scans of ADHD people are different. I KNOW this b/c I worked with a neurologist at the Cleveland Clinic who also said he was ADHD and he showed me the SCANS!!!!! There are different areas lit up/not lit up.

I do not believe people who use it as a cop out but it is real. I am not very fond of medication either. In fact, I do not believe in medicating our children - that, too, can affect brain development.

ADHD kids need lots of stability and consistency - regimentation and structure are important. Never has there been such a dearth of structure in the lives of families - whether due to single parent homes, or working-mom homes, the fractured families, and craziness of our modern life, all of these things are variables that matter.

How many people do you know that sit down as a family and eat dinner together 5 or more nights a week and at a similar time? Probably very, very few. However, when I was growing up, it was the norm. Families ate dinner together. My family always ate around 6:30 p.m., except on the weekends when we often had an “early” meal on Sundays. We rarely, rarely, rarely all went OUT to eat (another thing that has changed drastically since I was a kid).

A gal I know told me that her son had ADHD and the doctor said you almost HAVE to have it to survive in the modern American world. I think he was on to something.

It is going to get worse too....


15 posted on 04/07/2009 5:39:32 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: yarddog

I have heard about this. Kinda wild. Get her on Leno - he sometimes has people with unusual talents.


16 posted on 04/07/2009 5:40:05 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: bruinbirdman
In it, he claimed to have little confidence in his ability to define dyslexia, let alone diagnose it, despite 30 years in the field.

That's the money quote.

Maybe 22 years ago I was volunteering at an elementary school. A 1st grader, the child of an acquaintance, was messing up on a simple letter recognition computer game. It was evident that she had problems "Sequencing" the letters she saw. This was one of the rare classic "dyslexic" problems. There really are people who lie awake wondering about the existence of Dog and who should be member of DNA - the National Dyslexic's Association.

I mean, there really are some clear, "frank" neurological problems which are easy to identify.. But there is a vast array of questions, related to the plasticity of brain organization. I am intrigued with the typographical errors which I make and which are encountered so often on FR. It's not a total waste of time for some to speculate about the neurological side of typos.

But it seems to me clear that the response to these problems is, to say the least, vexed. Some people compensate very well, Others are hopeless -- at least they cannot use the currently offered coping methods.

One of the most popular errors, one too frequently encountered, is the error of thinking a persuasive conjecture is a proven fact. Some people clearly have something which might as well be called ADHD. Others are just anxious boys who could use a little more paternal involvement. Differential diagnosis is hard when the pathologies in question haven't been clearly defined.

17 posted on 04/07/2009 5:41:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: bruinbirdman

What’s even sadder are the dyslexic agnostics, who aren’t really sure if there’s a dog.


18 posted on 04/07/2009 5:42:19 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (What's Black and White and Red all over?)
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To: bruinbirdman

I am not surprised. The way they throw deseases around today.


19 posted on 04/07/2009 5:42:44 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Redgirl
Drug Free Treatment of ADD
20 posted on 04/07/2009 5:43:00 PM PDT by txroadkill (Medicare, Medicaid and now MediCar)
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To: BeckB

There is no doubt it is abused for all the reasons many on here are stating but that does not mean these things are not legitimate issues.

I’ve worked with an individual with dyslexia and it is much more complicated than a lot of people on here are saying - which only shows me that they have not done any in-depth research.

I know more about ADHD but I have done some rather good research on dyslexia. There are different problems going on and there is no one-size-fits-all answer to the dilemma. I don’t think our modern society is helpful but I don’t think it’s right to pretend that these things are all made up either. Those involved in the field or who work with children, or those with learning disabilities know this all too well.


21 posted on 04/07/2009 5:44:29 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: bruinbirdman

When I was in kindergarten and early grade school, I wrote many of my letters backwards and upside down, but they all looked fine to me. Whatever it was, it went away. I think.


22 posted on 04/07/2009 5:44:36 PM PDT by pallis
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To: freedumb2003
ADD "He will be drugged into total submission and any and all energy stolen from him."

ADD, incurable. The diagnosis is good for life. Lifetime prescriptions of RITILIN, synthetic cocain.

23 posted on 04/07/2009 5:45:09 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

I was diagnosed with dyslexia, dysgraphia, auditory processing disorder, and ADHD. They were all correct unfortunately. I suffered so badly for many years. Still do at 37, but it is a lot better.


24 posted on 04/07/2009 5:45:28 PM PDT by Halls (I'm with Rush, I want Obama to fail!)
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To: Mad Dawg

Great last paragraph.


25 posted on 04/07/2009 5:46:05 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: durasell

>>>Dyslexics of the world untie!

I know a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac that spends many a sleepless night wondering “Is there a doG?”


26 posted on 04/07/2009 5:47:09 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
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>>ADD, incurable. The diagnosis is good for life. Lifetime prescriptions of RITILIN, synthetic cocain.

And soon there will be a 100% incidence of this in the male population.


27 posted on 04/07/2009 5:48:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: pallis

That is not the same. Dyslexics also mix up directions - up, down; left, right and frequently have a deficit somewhere in how they hear sounds. For instance, I have worked with a dyslexic who when I asked him to sound out the words, would not HEAR certain sounds in the word so he would not know the letters to insert. See how it can be so much more complicated?

Reversing a couple of letters (e.g. b/d, etc.) is NOT the same.


28 posted on 04/07/2009 5:48:21 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Halls

>>I was diagnosed with dyslexia, dysgraphia, auditory processing disorder, and ADHD. They were all correct unfortunately. I suffered so badly for many years. Still do at 37, but it is a lot better.

You have been sold a bill of crap, other than maybe dyslexia. The rest are excuses for you being failed by your parents and teachers and, of course, you being male.

They make it to be YOUR problem — but it is THEIRS.


29 posted on 04/07/2009 5:50:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: bruinbirdman
My oldest daughter was diagnosed with Dyslexia 29 years ago. My wife and mother-in-law declared her to have it and when they speak the world listens!
The teachers went along with that diagnosis saying my daughter probably would never be able to operate a key board or read good and be marginal in her classes.

I didn't believe them but my wife and mother-in-law had spoken, therefore it was fact!

My daughter graduated from the University of Arkansas and works for a major company in Purchasing. She operated the computer well.

My wife still insists my daughter had dyslexia. I talked with my daughter not long ago and asked her if she did have dyslexia, she said no.

I then told her I knew she didn't have it, because I recognized the tricks she was playing back then because I had pulled the same thing. She liked the first grade so well she was trying to stay in it!

30 posted on 04/07/2009 5:51:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: bruinbirdman

These doctors are playing dog with the lives of these skid.


31 posted on 04/07/2009 5:56:19 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: BeckB

Schools learned decades ago that labeling kids with a disorder would give them more money for the government. There is so much wrong with this scenario.


32 posted on 04/07/2009 5:59:21 PM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Structure is so important in youngsters lives as you said. Insufficient sleep, over stimulation (TV, video games,etc.), lack of exercise add to the negative influences on today's kids. The lack of decent nutrition is another huge problem.

Time to get down off my soapbox. ;-)

33 posted on 04/07/2009 6:02:17 PM PDT by Tarheel (From the Old North State)
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To: pallis
I think what you said is incredibly important and unappreciated. We're talking about a variety of neurological functions and there's an unjustified and common assumption that different parts of the brain and different functions all develop together and according to the same schedule. There's no real reason to think that.

We think of the brain as a "meat computer" but even that's inadequate to the phenomena. Think of the blush. This is a more remarkable event than most people appreciate. The natural capacity for shame has to be informed by the society in which one develops. Then one has to violate social canons,. Then there is the perception that one has done so. And that perception, quite unconsciously, leads to a dilation pf superficial blood vessels, which almost has to be a hormonal phenomenon.

That's some complicated stuff, and it's not simply neurological.

34 posted on 04/07/2009 6:05:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Homeschooling does not have that rating. The kids are also smarter.


35 posted on 04/07/2009 6:05:56 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: Paved Paradise

Thank you. Having a brain and also having some mild learning disabilities AND some neuroses. I have all the data I need to think about this stuff. And I think about it a lot.


36 posted on 04/07/2009 6:07:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: freedumb2003

You have no idea what you are talking about.

First I am a woman, second dumb doctors told my parents when I was 6 I would never be able to read. I went to a great private school where the teaches worked so hard with me. My parents never failed me. In fact they had a private tutor that came to my school to work with me during the day. at night my mom and dad busted their but helping me with relearning everything I learned that day at school. I was given every access to help by my parents who loved me and still love me. No one failed me. I’m quite aware of the issues I had and still have. It wasn’t man made and wasn’t anyones fault. So unless you have personal experience in dealing with these learning disabilities I’d just stay quiet!


37 posted on 04/07/2009 6:09:36 PM PDT by Halls (I'm with Rush, I want Obama to fail!)
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To: Halls

You seem to write and spell well, particularly with the language disabilities you describe.

As a language therapist, I work with scores of students who possess myriad learning differences. With encouragement, multisensory teaching methodologies, and an ability to build upon their strengths, they can develop the skills needed to succeed academically.

These kiddos need more than cookie cutter lessons in overcrowded classrooms. One size fits nobody, particularly when learning differences exist.

Encouragement and skilled teachers are what students need the most. Folks who tend to point fingers and place blame aren’t going to teach anyone how to read.

Congratulations on finding a way to overcome the difficulties you have faced. Often, students with learning differences are among the most resilient, smartest, and creative kids in the building.


38 posted on 04/07/2009 6:12:43 PM PDT by tamster
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To: Mad Dawg

That is the most fascinating mind-twisting weird look on physics, psychology, forensics, the application of glue to a white rams rear end that I have ever heard.


39 posted on 04/07/2009 6:16:37 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: tamster

Unlike what freedumb said about my parents failing me I just have to say that if I didn’t have the parents I have I wouldn’t have been able to accomplish everything I have. I’ve never used my learning disabilities as en excuse to fail. I graduated college, have my real estate license, am a stay at home mother of two boys, a wife of a great guy, etc... I doubt likely I would be where I am if my parents failed me.


40 posted on 04/07/2009 6:17:00 PM PDT by Halls (I'm with Rush, I want Obama to fail!)
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To: Mad Dawg

Hey - you know what I always tell people?

God gives us all special gifts and what I’ve learned is that many people who are “different” and have what is commonly referred to as a “learning disability” are often insightful, intuitive, creative, and excellent in many, many ways that a lot of us simply are not.


41 posted on 04/07/2009 6:17:39 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Tarheel

Hey - at least you make sense!! LOL! There was a new study done saying that the kids spend so much time with technology (bright lights and so on) that it is literally rewiring their brains. Doctor said all this stuff is infantilising their brains. I believe it wholeheartedly since I am in college with these kids.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 6:19:28 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: bruinbirdman

Shots-problems=autism


43 posted on 04/07/2009 6:25:16 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: Tarheel

We need moer people jumping on that soapbox with you.


44 posted on 04/07/2009 6:25:35 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: yarddog

that is dyslexic..my brother is one


45 posted on 04/07/2009 6:30:22 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: bruinbirdman

Please read Edgar Cayce’s readings. This man ( GOD BLESS ) has cured every person that has asked. Look him up . A.R.E.


46 posted on 04/07/2009 6:39:24 PM PDT by mirkwood (A.R.E.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Get her on Leno - he sometimes has people with unusual talents.

I think he said "late" wife. : (

47 posted on 04/07/2009 6:46:54 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: yarddog

I am so sorry. I did not notice the word, “late.” Please accept my humble apologies. It really is an amazing ability for one to have had though.

Glad another FR on here caught my boo-boo.


48 posted on 04/07/2009 7:07:38 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: conservative cat

Thank you so much for posting me. I did NOT catch the word “late” in my hasty reading. I sent an apology. I feel awful.


49 posted on 04/07/2009 7:08:23 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

It’s sometimes unfortunate we can’t edit our posts!


50 posted on 04/07/2009 7:41:03 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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