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Posted on 04/07/2009 7:38:04 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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That reminds me....is the PATRIOT Act still on the books? I thought that was Exhibit A in the left's indictment against the previous "regime". If the Dem-controlled govt hasn't repealed it yet....why not?
So are you ready to spend an extra $100,000 or so for this?
At this time I don't have the money. Wish me luck in my job search. :)
But if I did have the money to spend on this, then, yes, absolutely. It's definitely worth it.
When dependence on someone else or something else is decreased, freedom is increased.
I think that anybody with the means to live "off the grid" should do so.
Sorry, I wouldn't spend my money this way.
And I was out of power after Hurricane Ike for several days.
I do own a small gasoline powered generator. It didn't cost me $100,000.
Ping fer later..
For about $6k I bought a used diesel generator (24 kw) you could probably do smaller.
350 gallons was about $800 back in Nov and will still be good fuel 5 years from now.
Solar and wind is so fickle and costly I haven’t put even $1k into it. You gotta do the numbers.
Also know that your solar panels have to see the sun to generate electric and that also means they must be visible from anyone or anything overflying your land too. No way to hide solar.
Sorry, I forgot to include my best wishes on your search.
I was once out of work for 3 months. I know it can be rough. My family has made several sacrifices to avoid it since then; we know how rough it can be.
GOOD LUCK, FRiend!
If I was to build solar I’d do it this way:
10 panels (100 watts $400 ea) - $4k
Controller/charger about $3k
Batteries to allow minimal usage at night, 6 to 12 marine 12v at about $1k
Plenty of electrical/engineering ingenuity: priceless
So maybe $10,000
1,000 Watts peak capacity during the summer afternoon.
How much power is this system going tp produce on average?
Maybe 200 watts average? Less through the winter?
Gasoline powered generators may be an option to look into as well. If a person went the gasoline generator route, they would need to ensure that they would always have access to a supply of gasoline. I suppose it depends on what is the most cost efficient in the long term and also by what can be sustained indefinitely if supply lines are cut.
You are right. If lucky 1000 watts for 6 hours on the sunny days.
But if we are in tough times, without an electric grid, this will power maybe a computer/monitor, radio, satellite receiver, medium size flatscreen TV, ham radio gear.
I don’t even see this 1000 watt peak system running a well pump. It’s just allows one to maintain communication and some entertainment to bide ones time.
A really good deep cycle battery would provide 75 Amp-Hour rating.
12 batteries times 12 volts times 6.25 amps for 12 hours equals 900 watthours. Evenly spaced out over 12 hours you can draw 4 amps at 120V.
Big difference the power consumption at 240V and 12V.
Trying running your oven or air condition off of those.
Also after three years of fully charging and discharging those batteries every day, you are not going to have half that capacity left.
Oh no air conditioning, all cooking would have to be non-electric.
Gotta a grill and 250 gallons of underground buried propane.
I have a pond in the front, so at least I can flush the toilet if we’re without electricity. So, I’m not going to fuss with any outhouse.
Good luck on that, though.
How much did your hand pump cost you? Did you have it installed?
The pump we had installed a couple of weeks ago was $500.00. They also had a $200.00 option, but I wanted the best they had. I do not know what the difference is, I just didn’t want to take any chances. I do know that this one does not have to be used on a regular basis to prevent the leathers from drying out, nor will it freeze. It goes down over a hundred feet.
I am lucky to have a well company nearby that I trust. They are a family company that only does wells, they’ve been here forever, and they even dug my original well back in ‘72 when the house was built.
Trial balloon from the fine folks who brought you the cartoon of TWA-800 gaining altitude after it disintegrated? If so, when the power goes out, the media and the brain numbed will gleefully eat the story that [insert favorite terrorist group here] did it over the internet. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
“It seems the more advanced we become the more vulnerable we are.”
Exactly. Technology is nice and makes life more comfortable, but one day it will bite us in the ass.
Funny, I just commented about having my hand pump installed last week.
Best keep yo tongue off that pump handle in the winter.
“Last week, Senate Democrats introduced a proposal that would require all critical infrastructure companies to meet new cybersecurity standards and grant the president emergency powers over control of the grid systems and other infrastructure. “
That’s really what this is all about.
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