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Gay marriage in Iowa sign of country's regression
The Daily Targum ^ | April 7, 2009 | Anthony Parillo

Posted on 04/07/2009 10:36:11 PM PDT by DesertRenegade

The recent ruling in Iowa to permit homosexual marriage should scare all Americans. This change in thinking is indeed indicative of a country’s regression. Here in New Jersey, we sometimes forget that the country is not as diverse as we may like to believe; to consider our perspective analogous is obtuse. I agree, to us, the notion of homosexuality may not be foreign, yet that does not give us license to transcend the laws and consensus of the nation. We may harbor a more affable sentiment toward homosexuals, but that is in no way representative of the nation.

The truth of the matter is a majority of Americans oppose homosexual marriage. As per a recent CBS poll, “Americans Divided On Homosexual Marriage”, only a third of Americans think homosexual couples should be allowed to marry. We have seemingly — or conveniently — overlooked the fact that, despite Iowa, Massachusetts and Connecticut, 37 states have enacted statutory Defense of Marriage Acts, and 30 states have constitutional amendments protecting traditional marriage, while two more states have strong language that defines marriage as between one man and one woman. In fact, three states — Arizona, California and Florida — passed marriage protection legislation just in the last year.

If Iowa does become a “homosexual marriage mecca,” the marriage rights bestowed upon those couples hold only nominal value in most other states and federally. As maintained by the United States Defense of Marriage Act DOMA, “the word ‘marriage’ means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife” and “[n]o state shall be required to give effect to any relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of [any] other state.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: culturalentropy; culturewars; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; ia2009; pederasty; samesexmarriage; sodomy
This new social engineering is pure madness. Unless we draw the line very soon, a whole generation will be lost. The liberal activist judges have crossed a line that now puts our whole society in jeopardy. Every civilization in history that has embraced pederasty and sodomy has fallen soon after that due to degeneracy and corruption.
1 posted on 04/07/2009 10:36:11 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

Sodom and Gomorrah


2 posted on 04/07/2009 11:19:14 PM PDT by Cedar (Forever Pro-Life)
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To: DesertRenegade

Relax, the same thing was said when the slaves were freed, women got the vote and blacks were allowed to marry whites. No, it is doubtful that the end of the world as you know it will not be determined on penis placement.


3 posted on 04/07/2009 11:24:49 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: DesertRenegade
"...If Iowa does become a “homosexual marriage mecca,” the marriage rights bestowed upon those couples hold only nominal value in most other states and federally..."

I would expect a “homosexual marriage mecca” to grant automatic US citizenship to foreigners.

4 posted on 04/07/2009 11:36:11 PM PDT by Does so (One Big Assed Mistake, America)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
Wow, a Kool Aid salesman.
What kind of flavors do you sell that eliminate the entire history of man and substitute it with a mental disorder?

Whatever it is, you seem to quaff it by the quart.

5 posted on 04/07/2009 11:36:53 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

“slaves were freed, women got the vote and blacks were allowed to marry whites...”

None of which was a sin, rather the contrary, particularly when the slaves were freed and marriage was allowed, God’s law was being honored.

The homosexual “marriage” farce is a grievous sin.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 11:44:57 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Somehow, I do not believe that gays getting married in Iowa, Vermont or around the corner from my house is going to have a negative impact on my country or my family.

Both are strong enough to withstand a few gays that wish to be married.


7 posted on 04/07/2009 11:45:08 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Marie2

Just because you call it sin (whatever that is) doesn’t make it so and even it if what you said was true, we are a democratic secular nation not a theocracy.


8 posted on 04/07/2009 11:51:28 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: trumandogz

But society as a whole will be effected by the acceptance of homosexuality as “normal.” This goes beyond your little neighborhood.

From the beginning of time, marriage has always been between a man and a woman. It is a foundation of all societies. Allowing the perversity of homosexuality to distort the definition of marriage is not good for this country or any nation.

That’s like saying evil is good. Talk about a confused country with no foundations....this is another step in that direction for America.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 11:59:56 PM PDT by Cedar (Forever Pro-Life)
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To: Cedar

Meant to say “affected” not effected.


10 posted on 04/08/2009 12:01:02 AM PDT by Cedar (Forever Pro-Life)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

A sin is a transgression of God’s law. Hope that helps.

We are a republic.


11 posted on 04/08/2009 12:01:12 AM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: Marie2

We are a democracy, the republic died a long time ago. I respect your right to religion but it has nothing to do with me, respect my right of no religion.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 12:10:05 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Cedar

Again, my country and my marriage is strong enough to withstand gay marriage.


13 posted on 04/08/2009 12:13:43 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

“We are a democracy, the republic died a long time ago.”

I disagree with that.

As to respecting your right of no religion, most of our laws are Biblical. Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness, thou shalt not murder. I was reflecting the other day that our bankruptcy laws, where the record is wiped clean after seven years, are a reflection of Biblical law, which requires all debts to be wiped out every seven years. Inheritance law, all sorts of laws are Scripture based.

Having laws based on Biblical morality does not disrespect your right to be an atheist. As a matter of fact, were we to strike all laws that reflected Biblical morality, we’d pretty much have no laws left at all.


14 posted on 04/08/2009 12:27:52 AM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
We are a democracy...

No, people in many states vote, only to have despots in black robes overturn their ballots... Oligarchy of the bar associations is more accurate...

15 posted on 04/08/2009 2:15:30 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
...respect my right of no religion.

I'm an atheist.

Evolution can only happen with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.

Homosexuality is a fetish. Marriage is a fetish. Religion is a fetish. Monogamy is a fetish...

You don't respect my right of no religion, why should I give a damn about your fetish?

16 posted on 04/08/2009 2:19:14 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: trumandogz; DoingTheFrenchMistake
Ah, swell; perverts and pervert sympathisers on the Free Republic. No wonder Obama won with the likes of you diluting "conservative thought".

The primary existence of marriage is the union of a man and a woman to raise children/form a family. Homosexuals suffer from an unfortunate mental disease and what children they can get their hands on are from other sources. Any bets on what those children's lives will be like?

So, what's next? The "right" to marry a dog? a Barcalounger? Freedom for paranoid schizophrenics?

17 posted on 04/08/2009 3:45:06 AM PDT by Chinstrap61a
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To: Marie2

You are mistaken once again I am not an atheist just someone who refuses to be associated with religion as far as your bible goes it hold no sway over me nor will I give it any space in my life, I am a free man unencumbered by the beliefs or constraints of others.


18 posted on 04/08/2009 3:52:02 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

“Relax, the same thing was said when the slaves were freed, women got the vote and blacks were allowed to marry whites.”

I’ve never heard of an African-American magically changing their skin color. The comparison of ethnicity and the choice of sexual behavior are a typical liberal lie.


20 posted on 04/08/2009 4:07:56 AM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade
One of the things I find interesting about the article is that the author, Anthony Parillo, is not a student at Rutgers, my alma mater, but at Rider University which is about 20 miles down the road. I'm surprised that Rutgers, in all their liberal wisdom, allowed this to be printed in the Daily Targum.

My personal beliefs on this subject at this point should be known to all. While I find no basis to the charge of discrimination which is typically claimed by those in support of this measure, I can't help but think that ones moral belief system has to come into play in deciding a position on the subject. To this point the only legal justification for this has been derived from judicial fiat which seems to be in direct contradiction with the will of the electorate. If same sex marriage had so much support it would be sailing through our state legislatures and being signed into law by governors. This is not the case to this point (Vermont not withstanding). What has to be refuted is this notion of discrimination. As the author so adeptly points out, the same restrictions on marriage are placed on both heterosexuals as they are on homosexuals. Therefore a claim of discrimination is untenable. This point can not be stressed enough.

21 posted on 04/08/2009 4:37:09 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Cedar

“But society as a whole will be effected by the acceptance of homosexuality as “normal.” This goes beyond your little neighborhood.”

Expect to see all the schoolbooks changed to make sure husband and husband or wife and wife are used equally with husband and wife. You are going to see gay acceptance indoctrination in schools like you wouldnt believe. If you think it is bad now, just wait.


22 posted on 04/08/2009 6:19:29 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
I am not an atheist just someone who refuses to be associated with religion as far as your bible goes it hold no sway over me nor will I give it any space in my life, I am a free man unencumbered by the beliefs or constraints of others.

Homosexuality is a fetish just as much as religion is a fetish...

23 posted on 04/08/2009 6:45:36 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Wow. Time for your medication, big guy..


24 posted on 04/08/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by Chinstrap61a
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To: Chinstrap61a

“Wow. Time for your medication, big guy..”

I told you before that I don’t buy dope from strangers, now beat it before I call a cop.


25 posted on 04/08/2009 9:35:38 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: DesertRenegade

Headed to hell in a handbasket!


26 posted on 04/08/2009 11:21:59 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: trumandogz

Don’t fool yourself. No country is strong enough to withstand gay marriage. Destruction comes eventually. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. He will only let it go on for so long, then judgment comes.

You can try to convince yourself otherwise. But you are only fooling yourself.


27 posted on 04/08/2009 12:29:15 PM PDT by Cedar (Forever Pro-Life)
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To: RU88

Yeah, I was really stunned to see the Targum as the source, though I’ve seen some conservative opinions voiced there lately.


28 posted on 04/08/2009 2:39:38 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

“I am a free man unencumbered by the beliefs or constraints of others.”

I think you are indeed Doing The French Mistake. Whatever.


29 posted on 04/08/2009 2:54:55 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
I suspect you know all about dope..

Brain fried yet?

30 posted on 04/08/2009 3:54:44 PM PDT by Chinstrap61a
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To: Chinstrap61a
"Brain fried yet?"

N/A

31 posted on 04/08/2009 4:04:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: DesertRenegade
Gay marriage in Iowa sign of country's regression

It's also a sign of the culmination of the Ages, for those who believe.

32 posted on 04/08/2009 6:00:09 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: Chinstrap61a

“I suspect you know all about dope..”

I know you, right... What else is there to know?


33 posted on 04/08/2009 7:47:56 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Marie2
Yeah, we're a real theocracy aren't we?

I love the founding fathers, but I wish the spirtual ancestors of the Second and Third Great Awakenings would realize that they did NOT found the country. The founding fathers were not foot washers or hand clappers.

34 posted on 04/10/2009 10:42:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
So you believe in rule by the Sheeple? You realize that the sheeple are fickle and are NOT consistently conservative or liberal.

We are SUPPOSED to be a Republic, with checks and balances on the stupid multitude and the greedy politicians. "Democracy" is what brought us Obama.

35 posted on 04/10/2009 10:44:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
We are SUPPOSED to be a Republic, with checks and balances...

I don't see the word "marriage" in the Constitution anyplace...

36 posted on 04/11/2009 1:57:37 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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