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Posted on 04/08/2009 6:09:34 AM PDT by outpostinmass2

HEY GLOBE readers, can you spare some time?

Discuss COMMENTS (110) Tell me. What does this newspaper mean to you?

As you've no doubt noticed, we've become one of the biggest stories in town. The New York Times is threatening to close the place down unless it gets $20 million in concessions from the Globe unions.

We're suffering from a double whammy: A bad recession and a self-defeating business model. Troubled times have sent advertising revenues plummeting. Meanwhile, we're selling the paper with one hand and giving it away on Boston.com with the other. That's never made any sense - the more so since website ads aren't anywhere near the revenue-generator that print ads are.

When it comes to the printed product, the picture is discouraging. Overall, our daily print circulation is about 324,000, 14th in the country as of September 2008; that's off 10 percent from the previous year, and down 22 percent from 2005. Although conservative critics would have you believe our liberal editorial stance has alienated legions of one-time readers, fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation. The big reasons: No time to read, delivery problems, and cost.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bostonglobe; ccrm; liberalmedia; newspapers; nyt

1 posted on 04/08/2009 6:09:34 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Bostonians should get really mad and make sure to kick out Barney Frank from office and then head up to NY and riot in the NY Times building.


2 posted on 04/08/2009 6:11:32 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: outpostinmass2

“We’re suffering from a double whammy: A bad recession and a self-defeating business model. “

Don’t forget acting as public enabler for corruption in Massachusetts and Washington.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 6:13:06 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: outpostinmass2

Ya put out a crappy product, and eventually the public stops buying it. The solution is to fix the product, but those running newspapers are not even aware that their product is crappy. They think it is just fine, and that the public need education (or perhaps govt-sponsored “re-education”). Until they realize their product is crap, newspapers are going to continue circuling the drain.


4 posted on 04/08/2009 6:14:40 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: outpostinmass2
Tell me. What does this newspaper mean to you?

I don't think you really want to know.

5 posted on 04/08/2009 6:14:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: outpostinmass2

So if times are so difficult, why do they still have 13 unions and have some members who have jobs for life?


6 posted on 04/08/2009 6:15:10 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family.Tony was a blessing unto us all. All of the Snowflakes miss him.)
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To: outpostinmass2
What does this newspaper mean to you?


7 posted on 04/08/2009 6:16:16 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: outpostinmass2

Advertising revenue has plummeted because most normal folks don’t want to read the Globe’s leftist, “all gay, all the time” slant on everything.

Let it close.


8 posted on 04/08/2009 6:19:53 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: outpostinmass2

What did you think was going to happen? You catered to the political party that wants as many illiterates in society as possible so they can be brainwashed through flashing pictures on the TV. You stood foursquare for the evil teacher’s union and its policy of educational destruction.

You got what you asked for, Globe. Liberals can’t read any more. They watch TV instead of taking your cage liner.


9 posted on 04/08/2009 6:20:12 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: outpostinmass2
The paper finally comes to terms with capitalism. They have to sell something of value to stay in business.
Who would've thought of that ?
10 posted on 04/08/2009 6:20:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: outpostinmass2

Dear Boston Globe,

I saw your story posted on FreeRepublic.com and was interested enough in the novelty of asking your viewers their opinion to follow the link to your site. I thought it interesting that you would elect comments even when you so quickly dismiss your alienation of conservative viewers as a contributory reason for your loss in readership.

Unfortunately you require registration even to view the comments, not to mention adding one of my own, so I dropped out. The likelihood is that you will never know the reason for your business failure - you’re so certain that you already know that you erect walls to your own curiosity.

Perhaps Craigslist can find a job for you...


11 posted on 04/08/2009 6:20:40 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: No Truce With Kings

The internet is killing newspapers. Thats it. If it was the content, then ALL their news sources would be suffering and we’d be hearing about CNN or MSNBC going out of business. Unfortunately, that is not the case.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 6:20:46 AM PDT by theknuckler_33
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To: outpostinmass2
What does this newspaper mean to you?

Marxism, socialism and the destruction of the US?

13 posted on 04/08/2009 6:21:02 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: outpostinmass2
fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation

Must have forgotten about those who will not subscribe because of content. I'm sure the ommission is because of oversight and not bias.

14 posted on 04/08/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: outpostinmass2

Let the papers die.

Free market solutions to Commie problems.


15 posted on 04/08/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by JenB987
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To: rockrr

elect = elicit


16 posted on 04/08/2009 6:22:03 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: outpostinmass2
They just do not get it.

I actually know someone at my daily paper and we actually had some discussions and all I heard were the same self serving rationalizations printed in this column.

Best regards,

17 posted on 04/08/2009 6:22:22 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: outpostinmass2
I have read the Globe for 40 years. For the last 10+ years, that has been on-line. Because I live overseas much of the time it is the best way for me get my New England news and keep up with the Bosox, Celtics and Pats! I have very little money but I would willingly pay $10-20 a year for the on-line edition!
18 posted on 04/08/2009 6:22:41 AM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: outpostinmass2

It means I’d have to use the MetroWest Daily to clean up after puppies.


19 posted on 04/08/2009 6:24:21 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: outpostinmass2

***... fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation. The big reasons: No time to read, delivery problems, and cost.***

Since I live in Western NY, I subscribed to the Buffalo News. Years ago I called to cancel it and was handed over to the woman I believe was the president’s secretary. She asked why I was canceling. I told her I wouldn’t read anymore of their leftist propaganda. She very rudely hung up on me. I wonder how many Boston Globe readers actually got counted as not wanting to read their propaganda.


20 posted on 04/08/2009 6:26:58 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: theknuckler_33

The newspapers had years of declining circulation before they started falling. CNN and MSNBC are about five years behind along the same path. Check their ratings.


21 posted on 04/08/2009 6:29:58 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: outpostinmass2
Tell me. What does this newspaper mean to you?

..it means after 4 years of being bird cage carpet..the bird wants a new government kitchen and bathroom, free gas, be included in the census, a position with ACORN,wants to shoot basketball with Bambi on his next free ride to wherever,expects a low interest loan directly from the government so he could default on his government paid reconditioned home with trailer hook up, wants the DNC to back him for the vacated Senate seat when Kennedy kicks off, and wants two female campaign workers who like to partaaaaay

22 posted on 04/08/2009 6:30:50 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Loyal Buckeye
fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation

I believe that statement as much as I believe the rest of the garbage the Globe spews.

At best, they used a push poll. At worst, they made up this statistic like they make up most of the "facts" they report.

23 posted on 04/08/2009 6:32:15 AM PDT by Zakeet (Thou Shalt Not Steal -- Unless thou art the government)
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To: outpostinmass2
HEY GLOBE readers, can you spare some time

I honestly first read this as:

HEY GLOBE readers, can you spare A DIME


24 posted on 04/08/2009 6:32:17 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Must have forgotten about those who will not subscribe because of content.

Agreed. The Cleveland Plain Dealer calls from time to time. When they ask my wife why she won't subscribe, she says "I don't subscribe to liberal rags". I saw her do it at a sales booth in a retail store once. The look on the guy's face was priceless.
25 posted on 04/08/2009 6:36:12 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: outpostinmass2
I love this part:

Although conservative critics would have you believe our liberal editorial stance has alienated legions of one-time readers, fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation. The big reasons: No time to read, delivery problems, and cost.

He disagrees with what conservatives site as the problem then goes on to list what the "big reasons" are.

Well, if he knows what the big reasons are why is he asking in this column for reader input into what the reasons are?

26 posted on 04/08/2009 6:36:42 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrats want nationalized health care? I'll take the coverage Congress has. Nothing less.)
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To: kitkat

When I canceled my local newspaper the woman was actually quite polite. She asked me the reason and I responded it was due to their liberal slant. She said they receive that complaint quite often, and perhaps I could just skip over the editorial page. I told her I was referring to the front page. Oh, she said, how about the Sunday ads?

LOL


27 posted on 04/08/2009 6:38:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief; kitkat
She asked me the reason and I responded it was due to their liberal slant. She said they receive that complaint quite often, and perhaps I could just skip over the editorial page. I told her I was referring to the front page.

Same here. I was called by the Austin un American Ultra Liberal Non Statesman to let me know our subscription was due for renewal. I told the lady that they had reached their limit when they ran a front page story titled:

Third Chimp Escapes From Bastrop Research Center

Normally they would have that in the Metro and State section. Just in front of the article, they had President Bush's picture. That was the last time I opened the paper. I sent a letter to the editor about that incident. I told my neighbor to see if it made the letters to the editor, but it was never published.

28 posted on 04/08/2009 6:46:32 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Read the comments. It is three to one blaming slanted coverage for dropping the paper.


29 posted on 04/08/2009 6:46:35 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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Comment #30 Removed by Moderator

To: Copernicus

I was in the belly of the beast for nearly 10 years. It was very educational to say the least. The majority of those in the newsroom and on the street were liberals, pure and simple. Everything they think, write or publish wreaks of liberal spin. I was in the news photo department. It was a hoot to watch a page designer,reporter and a couple of editors come in near deadline and look for art to accompany a story they were doing. You can be sure they chose art that supported their stand on the subject of the article. They will run a story sans art rather than have to use a flattering picture of someone they don’t like, like George Bush.

I practically came to blows a couple of times with reporters who barged into the photo lab demanding to see the out takes of a shoot in hopes of finding something less positive!

And the sad thing is, they don’t even know that they’re biased and spinning everything they write or print to support their bias. Even if you tortured them they would insist they are objective in their output.


31 posted on 04/08/2009 6:50:42 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: WellyP

The Globe already tried this and it failed. Not enough people will pay for the Globe’s on line content.


32 posted on 04/08/2009 6:50:53 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: SonOfPyrodex

Hm. I can read exactly one word on that newspaper lining that cage. Interesting. LOL


33 posted on 04/08/2009 6:51:33 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The problem with a newspaper is that you have to be able to read in order to have it be of much value to you. Our public schools have turned out graduates that can't read their diploma, let alone a newspaper, for so long that there's no longer enough people who can read to support them!

Schools have dumbed-down students to the point where very few of them care enough about current events to require the in-depth coverage a newspaper can provide compared to TV or radio. Add their poor reporting and liberal bias to that and you have a deadly combination for the newspapers.

34 posted on 04/08/2009 6:55:23 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: outpostinmass2
Although conservative critics would have you believe our liberal editorial stance has alienated legions of one-time readers, fewer than 10 percent of subscription cancelers cite disagreement with content as their motivation

HEY...DUMBASS...maybe it's because all the conservative readers left years ago, and the only readers remaining are the anti-corporatists, who have just figured out where they were getting their paychecks from.

35 posted on 04/08/2009 7:01:41 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: mgc1122

(I fully realize that all sensible, thinking Americans — that’d be conservatives —fully understand this information. I post it only for the brain-dead Obama voters and statists — that’d be liberals — who might have slipped out of their rubber rooms over at DU and are lurking, hacking or generally causing trouble here at FR.)

Recently, I read what probably amounts to the obituary for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. (My wife insists on buying the Sunday edition for the TV guide.) It joins the growing list of print newspapers in deep, deep financial trouble. The LA Times, NY Times, Boston Globe, Cleveland Plain Dealer, etc.

Here’s my horseback analysis of why they’re heading for extinction.

As generally liberal statist propaganda outlets, they have for decades supported a government “education” system (and I used the term very loosely) dominated by the NEA and the idiot bureaucrats running the DOE in Washington. The unions and the NEA have largely hurled the traditional three “Rs” and critical thinking skills under the bus in favor of touchy-feely diversity training, self-esteem building, political correctness, African studies, teaching Hispanic kids in SPANISH instead of teaching them English on day one, social promotions, basket weaving, navel gazing, etc., etc.

I won’t dwell on it here but would, instead, refer you to my personal experience with the government schools here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U

What I cannot grasp is precisely why, after effectively dumbing down the members of the American populace who have traversed the conveyor belt of mediocrity called government schools, the overeducated owners and operators of these newspapers are surprised that this population has lost its interest in READING NEWSPAPERS: Many of them CAN’T read!!

Those folks – especially conservatives who resent the increasingly liberal drivel found in the major papers — who can and DO read things are now getting their information from the Internet or, for those too busy to actually read, from largely conservative talk radio (which helps explain why Algore, Pelosi, Reid, et al feel the need to control both these formats).

Their statist dumbing down has produced huge numbers of voters who lacked the critical thinking skills necessary to determine that their present-voting, slick-talking liar of a candidate had virtually NO management or legislative experience. And the economic illiterates they have elevated to high office in Washington for years have produced a growing economic crisis which has even those with any money left spending it on “luxuries” like food, clothing and shelter. Newspapers and advertising therein are far down the list.

And did I mention that the economic collapse Obama “inherited” has its genesis in Jimmy Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act? It was then expanded by Clinton and stridently defended by Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters and Barney Frank (who was sleeping with Herb Moses while he held a top spot at – appropriately – Fannie). Only government could turn the dream of home ownership for poor folks into a NIGHTMARE for the rest of us.

Now that they have control of the White House and both houses of Congress, the liberals who run most of the newspapers here SHOULD be on a beach somewhere throwing a huge party. Instead, they are dusting off their resumes. The Editor of the AJC informed us that she was actively seeking to get more conservative/traditional values writers in the pages down there. I’d submit that it’s too little, too late!

Perhaps she’ll write and let us know if that “Hope” and “Change We Can Believe In” thing helps with the job search.

If you just have to have one of those 1,000 new jobs dunning folks for Tim Geithner’s IRS, it couldn’t hurt.


36 posted on 04/08/2009 7:12:10 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: CASchack

(I fully realize that all sensible, thinking Americans — that’d be conservatives —fully understand this information. I post it only for the brain-dead Obama voters and statists — that’d be liberals — who might have slipped out of their rubber rooms over at DU and are lurking, hacking or generally causing trouble here at FR.)

Recently, I read what probably amounts to the obituary for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. (My wife insists on buying the Sunday edition for the TV guide.) It joins the growing list of print newspapers in deep, deep financial trouble. The LA Times, NY Times, Boston Globe, Cleveland Plain Dealer, etc.

Here’s my horseback analysis of why they’re heading for extinction.

As generally liberal statist propaganda outlets, they have for decades supported a government “education” system (and I used the term very loosely) dominated by the NEA and the idiot bureaucrats running the DOE in Washington. The unions and the NEA have largely hurled the traditional three “Rs” and critical thinking skills under the bus in favor of touchy-feely diversity training, self-esteem building, political correctness, African studies, teaching Hispanic kids in SPANISH instead of teaching them English on day one, social promotions, basket weaving, navel gazing, etc., etc.

I won’t dwell on it here but would, instead, refer you to my personal experience with the government schools here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U

What I cannot grasp is precisely why, after effectively dumbing down the members of the American populace who have traversed the conveyor belt of mediocrity called government schools, the overeducated owners and operators of these newspapers are surprised that this population has lost its interest in READING NEWSPAPERS: Many of them CAN’T read!!

Those folks – especially conservatives who resent the increasingly liberal drivel found in the major papers — who can and DO read things are now getting their information from the Internet or, for those too busy to actually read, from largely conservative talk radio (which helps explain why Algore, Pelosi, Reid, et al feel the need to control both these formats).

Their statist dumbing down has produced huge numbers of voters who lacked the critical thinking skills necessary to determine that their present-voting, slick-talking liar of a candidate had virtually NO management or legislative experience. And the economic illiterates they have elevated to high office in Washington for years have produced a growing economic crisis which has even those with any money left spending it on “luxuries” like food, clothing and shelter. Newspapers and advertising therein are far down the list.

And did I mention that the economic collapse Obama “inherited” has its genesis in Jimmy Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act? It was then expanded by Clinton and stridently defended by Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters and Barney Frank (who was sleeping with Herb Moses while he held a top spot at – appropriately – Fannie). Only government could turn the dream of home ownership for poor folks into a NIGHTMARE for the rest of us.

Now that they have control of the White House and both houses of Congress, the liberals who run most of the newspapers here SHOULD be on a beach somewhere throwing a huge party. Instead, they are dusting off their resumes. The Editor of the AJC informed us that she was actively seeking to get more conservative/traditional values writers in the pages down there. I’d submit that it’s too little, too late!

Perhaps she’ll write and let us know if that “Hope” and “Change We Can Believe In” thing helps with the job search.

If you just have to have one of those 1,000 new jobs dunning folks for Tim Geithner’s IRS, it couldn’t hurt.


37 posted on 04/08/2009 7:12:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: outpostinmass2

Hey Globe: die, die, DIE! Any paper that has not blasted Massachusetts idiots such as Frank, Kerry, and most importantly the felon Kennedy does not deserve to live.


38 posted on 04/08/2009 7:13:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: outpostinmass2

Dear Globe,

Fire every liberal. Fumigate empty building. Publish a CONSERVATIVE paper.

Sincere regards.


39 posted on 04/08/2009 7:14:44 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: saveliberty

I worked at the Boston Globe during college as part of a work-study program and all college employees were forced to join the union but we received none of the union benefit and weren’t allowed to vote during union elections.


40 posted on 04/08/2009 7:24:04 AM PDT by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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To: outpostinmass2
The Boston glob fights to survive with it's 13 unions sucking the life out of it.

In other news: Their editorial staff pimps for forcing the “Card Check” bill on everyone.

41 posted on 04/08/2009 7:24:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: outpostinmass2

It’s not MY paper. We canceled our subscription almost six and a half years ago.Why? Because every page had become an editorial page.


42 posted on 04/08/2009 7:29:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mgc1122

“Don’t forget acting as public enabler for corruption in Massachusetts and Washington.”

And don’t forget they are also only selling papers to liberals.


43 posted on 04/08/2009 7:33:14 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Bow down to me. I am TOTUS.)
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To: BronzePencil

That’s terrible!


44 posted on 04/08/2009 10:55:32 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family.Tony was a blessing unto us all. All of the Snowflakes miss him.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Recently, I have had a strong urge to smile every time I pass the mausoleum of Morrissey Boulevard.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 1:42:05 PM PDT by CASchack
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