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Putting down the mutiny
Waterbury Republican-American ^
| April 8, 2009
| Editorial
Posted on 04/08/2009 7:27:54 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:28:58 AM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Selah)
To: Graybeard58
It’s easier to change the establishment from the inside, versus the outside. It doesn’t mean that it isn’t difficult, however.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:30:28 AM PDT
by
Darth Dan
To: Graybeard58
If there is to be an effective uprising, my guess is that it will come from within the GOP. Certainly there is a struggle for control of the Republican Party — but, our best hope is winning that struggle.
Third Party candidates simply won’t be taken seriously enough. They may play spoiler — but I doubt they’re contenders.
SnakeDoc
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:31:49 AM PDT
by
SnakeDoctor
("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but ... the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
To: Graybeard58
BHO & the Dems will do everything they can to promote a third party bid from the right. This will sap the strength of any potential opposition and cement BHO’s re-election.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:37:37 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: Graybeard58
BHO & the Dems will do everything they can to promote a third party bid from the right. This will sap the strength of any potential opposition and cement BHO’s re-election.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:37:40 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: Graybeard58
“a possible third-party mutiny in 2012”
************
could be the best thing ever happens!
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:45:16 AM PDT
by
gunnyg
To: SnakeDoctor
I’d love to see a viable 3rd party emerge as well, but I feel it has to start at the local level and build a solid foundation first. Perot, Nader, Barr, etc...have been joke campaigns, with no realistic shot at even making a marginal splash in the polls.
Imagine a new conservative party that could get a dozen or so House seats and 2-3 in the Senate. Certainly not enough to legislate independently, but more than enough to exert pressure on the Republicans to toe the line, and the party will grow and grow from there.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:45:43 AM PDT
by
mquinn
(Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
To: Graybeard58
It's not going to be a mutiny, it's the already-in-progress Great Turning Away from politics. Productive citizens know that neither party has their best interest in mind and that the political process offers them no hope of actual representation. This Turning is affecting the GOP first and hardest, since the other side has far fewer productive citizens in its camp. It's hard to see the GOP ever winning another national election at this point - but no new third party will attract enough of the disaffected productive citizens to make any difference. This has already happened in California, where many surburbanites just drop out and enjoy the good wine and nice weather. If taxes go up...hey, I've got mine, the hell with you...
This trend will lead (or already has led) directly to a socialist government without the resources or public mindshare to carry out most of its grand schemes. It may finally end when a substantial body of younger voters finally begin to see the socialists instead of the irrelevant GOP as the "old dudes who caused the problems" - probably ten or twelve years from now.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:49:57 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
To: Graybeard58
Or the GOP could do something really insane and run with conservatives.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:53:01 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: cripplecreek
“Or the GOP could do something really insane and run with conservatives.”
Nah. That would never enter their teeny little brains. They read the mainstream media and know that conservatives are evil, nasty, racist people whom they would never want to be associated with.
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posted on
04/08/2009 7:59:04 AM PDT
by
Pravious
To: Graybeard58
We all need to form a third party that includes all people who are American and believe in the Constitution. Unlike the Royals in the Royal 100 Club and the semi-Royals in the House we need to appeal the 17th amendment and place a time of two terms on all who think they are Royals (which is 99.9% of all politicians).
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:02:33 AM PDT
by
YOUGOTIT
(I will always be a Soldier)
To: SnakeDoctor
Third Party candidates simply wont be taken seriously enough. They may play spoiler but I doubt theyre contenders. Right there. The major problem is a third party sucks votes from the Republican party since both parties relies on conservative issues. The Republican party needs a clean sweep of RINO's and needs to establish a clear and clean "contract for America" attitude and it might just crack a little of the huge King Obama machine.
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:04:15 AM PDT
by
Logical me
(Oh, well!!!)
To: Graybeard58; LurkedLongEnough; HoosierHawk; RJL; rockinqsranch; paltz; ZirconEncrustedTweezers; ...
What Newt forgot to tell you is that what we are lurching toward is Corporate Statism, ala 1920's Mussolini, with state ownership and of course, control in varying degree, of private enterprise. Instead of a Fascist, One-Party Parliament, we will have a Two-Party Congress that is immune to outside interference, to rubber-stamp statist measures.
The illusion of free speech and hard-fought elections will thus be preserved, which Benito, and his demonic National Socialist follower Adolf, were never able to achieve.
Conservative districts may well get a "Conservative Party," going, and even slip in a candidate or two. But conservatives will never get in on the RINO-DEMO incumbent action, i.e., never be able to bring home the bacon to their constituents (as Crook Murtha and Senile KKK Krook Byrd consistently do, which gets them re-elected). Neither will they be present in sufficient number to even slow down the statist juggernaut.
The inherent weakness in Conservatism is that it requires economically stable, politically literate, and somewhat sophisticated voters. This political commodity, upon which good government of a republic depends, is in ever-diminishing supply. As present senior generations die off, and the new Latino demographic component approaches 100 million, the republic as you know it will change into something else over the rest of this century.
That's the "Change" BHO, Jr. is talking about. "Constitution," you say? Hmmm?
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:04:20 AM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
To: Logical me
If the GOP thinks they can run on fear of Obama, they may as well give up now because they’ve already lost.
Not to sound conspiratorial but it sure looks to me like they don’t intend to win again. Where are the big names demanding real investigations of ACORN? Where are the big names fighting the funding or ACORN while cutting military?
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:10:54 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: Graybeard58; All
Who's he kidding? The major political parties have a death grip on the electoral process
The *fact* of the matter is, that the Republicans will *never* win another presidential race without the support of the *conservative* base. If we successfully remove a substantial portion of that conservative base with a 3rd party option, we *guarantee* a Republican loss. The 3rd party may never win, that is true, but the Republicans are *guaranteed* to lose.
They won't stand for that long. They will woo us once again. All the "change the party from within" talk is tripe. What the party needs is a kick in the backside and I am happy to oblige it. And people will say 'but that means we could be stuck with Obama for another election cycle!'. Um ... we're stuck with him now. There is no difference, but for the fact that a 3rd party vote eases my conscious and delivers a swift kick to the RNC. I'm good with that.
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:18:52 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Kenny Bunk
We have a political class that is protected from voter outrage by gerrymandered districts as well as the system of ear-marks and pork.
We're also strapped w/ parasitic citizens that believe they are owed other peoples money.
Its depressing and its also similar to what destroyed the Roman Republic.
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:22:03 AM PDT
by
Pietro
To: All
I can’t go against Gingrich because he is a good solid conservative! His talk of a GOP split is scary and smacks of something easier than getting down to the hard work of fixing what is wrong. There is no doubt that the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence are in danger...and that is what is important.
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:23:28 AM PDT
by
cousair
To: so_real
The GOP stuck us with Obama and the rats with their deliberate denigration of conservative candidates.
I now have a socialist (not to mention criminal) congressman because the GOP withdrew party money late in his campaign. They called him a lost cause and he ended up losing by a whole 2%. They were never happy with him anyway because he defeated one of their RINOs for the seat in the first place.
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:28:14 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: Graybeard58
TERM LIMITS NOW!
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posted on
04/08/2009 8:29:55 AM PDT
by
numberonepal
(Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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