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Governor: State stands at cliff's edge - Schwarzenegger campaigns for budget rescue
LA Daily News ^ | 4/8/09 | Rick Orlov

Posted on 04/08/2009 8:46:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Myrddin

“Increasing tax rates decreases tax revenues as the afflicted flee to a less onerous location...”

..or simply stop producing as much as they used to.


41 posted on 04/08/2009 10:30:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: NormsRevenge

Sorry Girlyman...

Looks like you’re sol!


42 posted on 04/08/2009 10:33:52 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Randy Larsen; calcowgirl

You called it right! Good call on the Hasta La Vista Baby slave to the Kennedy clan!!!


43 posted on 04/08/2009 10:43:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: samadams2000
Then take out the ax and fire 1 out of every 4 government employees.

Exactly, but the key is breaking the unions. My wife works in CA state government and it is no mystery that easily 20% of the people in her professional-heavy agency, and probably a greater percentage in other agencies, are total deadwood and spend their days explaining why they are "too busy" or unable to do an assignment if they are not playing solitaire on their computers (no kidding, I have walked through the office areas and seen it).

As in private business, bankruptcy/collapse is the only chance at restructuring the contracts (unions) that burden the state. And we need to throw out the Dem legislators that hand out billions to the organizations that will employ them at multi-100K salaries when they are termed out. Giving those self-serving idiots/criminals another lease on life just postpones what is really needed.

44 posted on 04/08/2009 11:04:41 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: NormsRevenge

Why would I care about saving a Ca state employees job when they could give a rats ass about me losing mine.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 11:13:42 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Windflier

I’m still here in tax-hell SoCal. Must admit the weather and natural beauty and life quality still have a hold on me. But think about leaving and where to go every day. I would be sad to leave. New Mexico and Tucson are high on the list...


46 posted on 04/08/2009 11:28:29 PM PDT by bayareablues
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To: NormsRevenge

What happens to the initiatives that were recently passed? Anyone know? Like the “Safe, Reliable High-Speed Passenger Train Bond Act that just passed last year?

What happens when the voters vote for initiatives that cost money but the state has no money? Are they just put on hold? Or do they just fade away?


47 posted on 04/08/2009 11:46:44 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: calcowgirl

The state budget doubled in ten years. Now we can’t cut a thing without decimating every important service.

Sure Arnold. Someone doesn’t understand math indeed.

These bills are going to crash and burn. The populace is not happy right now.

The governor and the legislature are public enemies number one and two these days.


48 posted on 04/08/2009 11:50:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Always Independent
Why would I care about saving a Ca state employees job when they could give a rats ass about me losing mine.

That's very good!

49 posted on 04/09/2009 12:12:25 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Auntie Mame
What happens when the voters vote for initiatives that cost money but the state has no money?

They create separate funds with special protections for their pet projects. Stem cell research, solar roofs, hi speed rail will all be fine.

But they'll shut off your water.

50 posted on 04/09/2009 12:14:09 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Looking forward to seeing all these props go down in flames. Vote to tax myself more and longer? Yeah, right. I can’t believe the Republicans caved for such a ridiculous so-called “compromise”.


51 posted on 04/09/2009 2:17:49 AM PDT by jrp
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To: bayareablues

I feel yer pain. The natural beauty of Cali is a strong attractant. I was born a mile from the beach in Monterey. The place is in my blood.

But, the sane and productive people are now outnumbered there by the insane and non-productive.

When the culture degraded to the point where we penalized the producers and rewarded the non-producers, we reached a point of no return on the dwindling spiral.

Alex de Tocqueville observed that a pure democracy will destroy itself when the mob begins to vote itself largesse from the public treasury.

Impoverishing the productive segment of society through excessive taxation causes them to either cheat, flee, or withdraw their production. This is what’s happening in California and other liberal states now.


52 posted on 04/09/2009 7:48:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: calcowgirl

I don’t recall the specifics of Arnold’s 2005 ballot measures now, but I do remember that they were all steps in the right direction, and were supported by conservatives at the time.

When every single one of them failed to pass, I knew that California had passed a point of no return. In my observation, the liberals were finally in a permanent majority, which couldn’t mean anything but an imminent demise of the state.

I decided that I’d rather not be a part of that collapse, and pulled out then.


53 posted on 04/09/2009 7:58:03 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Auntie Mame

What happens to the initiatives that were recently passed? Anyone know? Like the “Safe, Reliable High-Speed Passenger Train Bond Act that just passed last year?

What happens when the voters vote for initiatives that cost money but the state has no money? Are they just put on hold? Or do they just fade away?

Projects like the HighSpeed Rail Job will just get in line for their chunk of the dough... they will suck hind tit tho. They won’t fade away, unfortunately

This state doesn’t have any priorities in case you haven’t noticed, except scare out the rich and businesses as fast as they can.. Crazy but facts speak louder than words here in HooplaLand.


54 posted on 04/09/2009 9:07:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Windflier

Hate to tell ya, but those props were a sham just as this latest set is a sham. Arnold and his buddies feed the media with propaganda telling everyone that
they are “good for California” and that there is “bipartisan” support — when there isn’t. The liberal MSM accommodates him by repeating the mantra, ad infinitum.


55 posted on 04/09/2009 9:15:21 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
Foot, meet brakes.

Or else.

56 posted on 04/09/2009 9:26:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: Montanabound
Please, Californians, if you go to other states, do not try to remake them into California-lite. Same goes for New Yorkers.

California got this way because of the Easterners who came here.

57 posted on 04/09/2009 9:27:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: GeronL
I hope it fails miserably

Looking forward to Obama's "Federal receiver"?

He'll tax us until the cows get lost.

58 posted on 04/09/2009 9:28:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Schwarzenegger just doesn't get it.

Yes he does. He's just taking orders.

59 posted on 04/09/2009 9:29:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bail out
Octomom

60 posted on 04/09/2009 9:32:12 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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