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GOP cools on a hot-button issue [amnesty] [Romney on illegals] [barf]
The Boston Globe ^ | 2009-04-09 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

THOSE OLD Republican hot buttons are growing cold. For proof, check out a recent interview with Mitt Romney, a former presidential candidate and ex-governor of Massachusetts.

According to TheHill.com, a congressional newspaper that publishes when Congress is in session, "Romney believes that one way to attract more minorities to the GOP is to pass immigration reform before the next election, saying the issue becomes demagogued by both parties on the campaign trail." The article also quotes Romney as saying, "We have a natural affinity with Hispanic-American voters, Asian-American voters."

This could be extreme political repositioning, even for Romney.

. . . . .

How Romney gets beyond the flip-flop-flips of his multiple-choice positions on immigration and other issues is a mystery only he can solve.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; aliens; amnesty; chameleonromney; illegals; immigration; mcromney; msm; propagandawingofdnc; rino; rinoalert; rinoparty; rinoromney; romney; romneybots; romneytruthfile; shamnesty; slickwillard; twofaceromney
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1 posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 04/08/2009 9:22:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Romney believes that one way to attract more minorities to the GOP is to pass immigration reform before the next election, saying the issue becomes demagogued by both parties on the campaign trail.” _____________________________________________________

Back to his AMNESTY Bill supporting self...


3 posted on 04/08/2009 9:24:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385

The Boston Globe is losing $85 million this year so screw them and screw Mitt if he is getting cold feet.

www.numbersusa.com for free faxes to stop amnesty plus phone calls.


4 posted on 04/08/2009 9:25:49 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: rabscuttle385

I still support any Republican nominee over any Democratic nominee. But Romney is definitely less conservative than Bush, and far less conservative that he portrayed himself to be on the campaign trail. If it’s a choice between him and Palin or Jindal, I would reject him in favor of the alternatives.


5 posted on 04/08/2009 9:26:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: rabscuttle385

WE don’t need “more minortiies”

We need more AMERICANS


6 posted on 04/08/2009 9:26:23 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Allegra; CanadianMusherinMI; Clemenza; Diogenesis; ejonesie22; EternalVigilance; Finny; ...

Slick Willard *ping-a-ring-a-ring*


7 posted on 04/08/2009 9:26:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

But...but...it’s from the Boston Globe, they’re lying about Mitt’s positions! < /Romneybots >


8 posted on 04/08/2009 9:27:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I guess the romneybots won’t attack me anymore for posting this 11 second video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpUNVRNVk-E


9 posted on 04/08/2009 9:29:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385
GOP establishment types (like Romney) have not surprisingly misinterpreted the '08 election results to mean that the party needs to move even further to the left than they already are if they intend to contend in future elections.
10 posted on 04/08/2009 9:30:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: rabscuttle385

The guy had tons of money, (belated) establishment support, and he still couldn’t beat McCain. Hell, he couldn’t even Huckabee. Global warming lunatic Mark Hussein Sanford has a better chance.


11 posted on 04/08/2009 9:30:02 PM PDT by exist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Slick Willard changes his positions more than a Nevada Whorehouse full of johns.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 9:30:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

“”Romney believes that one way to attract more minorities to the GOP is to pass immigration reform before the next election, saying the issue becomes demagogued by both parties on the campaign trail.” The article also quotes Romney as saying, “We have a natural affinity with Hispanic-American voters, Asian-American voters.”

What a pathetic, opportunistic POS Romney has revealed himself to be.


13 posted on 04/08/2009 9:31:20 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: rabscuttle385; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


14 posted on 04/08/2009 9:31:34 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Romney on the 2007 AMNESTY Bill...

“We need to find a path to citizenship”

“We cant send them back”


15 posted on 04/08/2009 9:31:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385
How Romney gets beyond the flip-flop-flips of his multiple-choice positions on immigration and other issues is a mystery only he can solve.

Mystery? What's so mysterious about treason and cowardice?
16 posted on 04/08/2009 9:32:13 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rabscuttle385
GOP cools on a hot-button issue

The neo-Whig party is just looking for a way to self-destruct.

17 posted on 04/08/2009 9:33:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I voted for him against Juan McCain, but if he’s pulling out that old “conservative Hispanic” chestnut that worked out so well for the GOP last election, well...he’d better go back to Bain and forget about politics. Illegal aliens will latch on to the public tit at the first opportunity. Anybody who doubts that is either insane or dishonest. Mitt must have gone over to Juan’s and had some margarita Kool-Aid.


18 posted on 04/08/2009 9:34:16 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: ansel12

From the video “..establish legal residence...”

Romney is a traitor...


19 posted on 04/08/2009 9:34:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385

So when this guy claimed to be a born again conservative over night right when he decided to run for the GOP nomination and many of us didn’t believe it we were told it was because we hated Mormons. Surprise. We were right.

Is K-Lo still drooling over this guy?


20 posted on 04/08/2009 9:36:04 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Zhang Fei

Not me. I won’t support any GOP candidate who votes for or supports amnesty. Period. They just don’t get it.
This is THE issue that was the last straw and made me change my party affiliation to independent. And I’ve supported or voted for every GOP presidential and nearly all local candidates since I was a kid campaigning for Goldwater back in Chicago.


21 posted on 04/08/2009 9:37:18 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You know it’s bad when even the leftists are pointing out a Republican’s flip flops.


22 posted on 04/08/2009 9:37:59 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
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23 posted on 04/08/2009 9:39:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385
This is an issue that needs to be dealt with. We are facing a demographic crisis. To speak frankly, the liberals have almost succeeded in importing enough 'minority' ethnic groups that they have skilfully exploited into ethnic victim-hood constituencies to permanently build a left-wing majority. We all know Bush failed to close the border and completely reorganize immigration when national security demanded it and a Republican congress could have delivered it. There will come a point at which conservatives either have to resign themselves to permanent minority status, or make a democrat-style bargain with Hispanics that likely won't work and will result in the same thing. The question remains whether the numbers exist for one last push at true America-first conservatism, whereby we enforce the laws and gain control of our immigration system, or whether we have already crossed the Rubicon. If we are already at the point where we have lost too many people who consider themselves American first, despite their particular ethnic background, then it is likely permanent majority status for us and a long sad decline for our Republic. We cannot survive as a collection of warring tribes suckling on the tit of the federal treasury.
24 posted on 04/08/2009 9:39:30 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
People forget, Romney has a lot of relatives in Mexico... grandfather and father were born and raised in Mexico
25 posted on 04/08/2009 9:40:18 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ansel12

From this article...

“As governor of a blue state, he once said he favored a sensible path to citizenship.”


26 posted on 04/08/2009 9:40:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385

This is misleading. Everyone here on free republic also supports immigration reform. Romney had an immigration reform plan last election that could have been written by free republic. There is nothing in this story to suggest he has changed that plan.


27 posted on 04/08/2009 9:42:56 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: mbraynard
"This is misleading."

Slick Willard always is.

28 posted on 04/08/2009 9:46:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Soul Seeker
Is K-Lo still drooling over this guy?

Plenty of droolers right here at F.R.

29 posted on 04/08/2009 9:46:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: Kozak
How your supporting millions of illegals is all about freedom. How your one party control shows great diversity in your nation.

100 per centers* like you may be an important reason we're going to have yet another raft of New Deal entitlement legislation passed this year, as well as the amnesty we were all hoping to forestall.

* That is, if I don't get 100% of what I want, I'm staying home or voting for the other guy.

30 posted on 04/08/2009 9:47:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: rabscuttle385

Mitt Romney is indirectly helping to take himself out of the serious running for ‘12 GOP POTUS! Many conservatives will make sure that “everything leftist” is seriously not forgotten, prior to the next general elections in ‘10, ‘12, and beyond! There are plenty of very angry and very upset conservatives and other non-leftists, who are very concerned about the direction that the entire U.S. is presently heading on all of the issues.


31 posted on 04/08/2009 9:48:57 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: mbraynard
Everyone here on free republic also supports immigration reform.

I don't.

32 posted on 04/08/2009 9:50:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I’ll believe it after we’ve driven a stake through his undead RINO political corpse.


33 posted on 04/08/2009 9:50:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney disappoints again! I want the GOP to have his money, but he has morphed into McCain and has no conservative principles.


34 posted on 04/08/2009 9:51:03 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: rabscuttle385
>>>>>"Romney believes that one way to attract more minorities to the GOP is to pass immigration reform before the next election...

Right. Give all the illegals amnesty. That'll solve the problem. Dumb Willard.

>>>>>How Romney gets beyond the flip-flop-flips of his multiple-choice positions on immigration and other issues is a mystery only he can solve.

LOL

35 posted on 04/08/2009 9:51:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: calcowgirl

We just call it the “send them back to their nation of origin by any means necessary” reform. ;-)


36 posted on 04/08/2009 9:51:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Rockitz

If Slick morphed into Juan, that’d actually be an improvement. He hasn’t even reached the level of primordial ooze.


37 posted on 04/08/2009 9:52:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

To hell with Romney!

Hope he never holds another office!


38 posted on 04/08/2009 9:52:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: rabscuttle385
GOP cools on a hot-button issue

So what? Conservatives haven't "cooled" and in fact are more adamant and united about it than ever!

39 posted on 04/08/2009 9:54:43 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Reagan Man
DJ Ruby Rhod as Slick Willard... "I don't want one position, I want all positions !"


40 posted on 04/08/2009 9:55:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I call it enforcing the law and protecting the border. We don’t need “comprehensive immigration reform” (which is just a guise to pass all the other stuff they want to shove into a “comprehensive” bill.)

We’ve got laws for legal immigration. We’ve got laws for temporary work visas. etc. etc. etc. We’ve got a law to build a fence; do we need a new law or do we just need to follow through and build the darn thing? (rhetorical)


41 posted on 04/08/2009 9:56:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Trod Upon

I think Bush’s numbers among Hispanics were an outlier for a few reasons.

1)He was Gov of TX and so he had an inflated # among hispanics in TX, and TX has a lot oh hispanics so that pumps his natl numbers

2)His brother was gov in FL and that helped him with hispanics there and FL also has a lot of hispanics

3)The Elian Gonzales thing hurt Gore big amongst hispanics and I think it carried over to Kerry. If Clinton doesn’t send Elian back, Gore wins in 2000.

4)The 2000/2004 elections were before the immigration reform was considered and the GOP and conservatives did come across as not exactly friendly toward hispanics.

5)Bush did have a post 9/11 glow and benefitted from terrorism and nat’l security being the major issue. By 2008 it was all but forgotten because of the economy.

6)The economy was still in good shape and hispanics didn’t blame the GOP for the economic downturn.

If you look historically, the GOP is lucky to get around 1/3 of the hispanic vote. Even in 1984 when Reagan was his apex, he got 34% of hispanics. Bush got 35% in 2000. McCain got 31% last year. It’s pretty much all in the same ballpark, and even if McCain had matched Bush from 2000 he would have gotten an extra .4 overall and still lost.

The idea that going forward the GOP is going to top 35% or so among the hispanic vote is imho a long road to hoe.

Look at how they said Obama and the dems were making big inroads with evangelicals and even with white voters. He didn’t really. He got 43% of the white vote compared to 41% for Kerry in 04, 42% for Gore in 2000, and the same 43% that Clinton got in 96. Among evangelicals, he pretty much got the same #s that Gore and Kerry got.

The GOP isn’t going to win by magically swinging the hispanic vote. That train has left the station. Bush and Rove had a strategic plan to establish a beachhead through the immigration bill but the conservative opposition ended that and it’s no longer feasible.

The real issue is how to swing that 5 pts or so among the white vote that is needed. It was 58-41 in 2004 and slipped to 55-43 in 2008. If we can get it back up to around 60 we should be ok. But the white % of the overall vote is shrinking year by year and it’s going to be tougher and tougher. 2012 and if not 2016 will be the last election ever in which the white vote will make up more than 70% of the total. By comparison, it made up 88% when Reagan won in 1980.


42 posted on 04/08/2009 9:56:02 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: calcowgirl

Yeah, heaven forbid we get another one of those bills with a provision for $10 million to study the effects of aardvark flatulence.


43 posted on 04/08/2009 9:58:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: calcowgirl
>>>>I call it enforcing the law and protecting the border.

Got that right. Secure the borders, punish employers who hire illegals and halt all government handouts to illegals. Then watch the mass migration home.

44 posted on 04/08/2009 10:00:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Whatg's the difference between Slick Willard and Juan McCain these days?

I just don't see any.

45 posted on 04/08/2009 10:02:42 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Joan Vennochi”

I WOULD NOT TRUST ANYTHING THIS LIBERAL WOMAN SAYS ABOUT ANY REPUBLICAN.

Doin what she can to make Republicans less popular is all.


46 posted on 04/08/2009 10:02:56 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: mbraynard

“You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.”

Nice tagline.


47 posted on 04/08/2009 10:04:36 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Allegra

One is still holding office. One too many.


48 posted on 04/08/2009 10:07:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: WOSG

She’s not talking about a Republican. She’s talking about Slick Willard.


49 posted on 04/08/2009 10:07:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mitt Romney is an unelectable politician always in search of a constituency and an address.


50 posted on 04/08/2009 10:09:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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