Skip to comments.Confederate re-enactor pleads not guilty in shooting
Posted on 04/09/2009 10:21:22 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
A Confederate re-enactor has pleaded not guilty to reckless handling of a firearm in the accidental shooting of a Union re-enactor during the filming of a Civil War documentary in September.
Joshua Owen Silva of Norfolk appeared in court Wednesday on the misdemeanor charge, which stemmed from the shooting of 72-year-old Thomas Lord Sr. of Suffolk. A June 24 trial date was set, but prosecutors say they hope to reach a plea agreement with Silva before that.
Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball during the filming of the "Civil War Overland Campaign Web Series Project." He was treated at a local hospital and released.
// Dixie ping //
Aren’t they supposed to use blanks? Interestingly I read a murder mystery that took place during a reenactment ....
“Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball”
I bet that hurt!
I wonder if it was full charge FFg or if it was a light noise and smoke load.
most of those era muskets would only take around 70 grains of FFg ..quite different from todays inline magnum loads with 150 or more grains
* can also use FFFg in a 45....judgment call
Up for a little reenactment?
I read about this in Civil War News. They go to great lengths to prevent this.
What REALLY sucked was that they took him to a reenacted field hospital and sawed his arm off without anesthesia.
BAN ASSAULT MUSKETS.
Don’t give them any “brilliant” ideas.
Again, a case of media firearms ignorance. It was likely a .45 caliber pistol ball, since about 99% of reenactors use long arms that fire .58 to .69 caliber projectiles.
Can you really run a ballistics check on a a .45-caliber musket ball?
Trace that bullet all the way back to the lead mines of Galena Illinois.
using the ‘rod system’ I would say yes.....and yes it is late, the purple bag jug is empty so I will now STFU.
Almost all of the re-enactors use replica muzzle loaders -- any surviving original is way too rare and expensive to carry around in the field.
The replicas are built with modern steel and can take what would be substantial overloads for the originals.
I have seen a 150 lb feral hog hit with a .58 cal ball, which penetrated completely through the lungs and ended up just under the skin on the side opposite the entrance wound. The ball had expanded to a flat piece of lead just about the size of a US Quarter.
Out of range.
They didn't march 50 yards apart for nothing, Joshua Owen Silva. Next year don't fire until you reach the line and hear the command...
* can also use FFFg in a 45....judgment call
You can stick 90 grains FFF in them no problem. Only if the barrel is old, pitted and generally not taken good care of would you want to cut that down a bit. Or a 50 cal. 90gr is a little uncomfortable for a 50 cal flintlock style musket. I have a 50 carbine percussion cap that I have no problem stuffing 110 grains of FFF in, launching a 180 grain hornady 45 cal boattail/sabot. knocks deer right off their feet at 200 yards, 4 inches drop.
Yep! Replica’s have some real good abilities if you aren’t afraid to use them.
I love shooting my 50cal carbine. It knocks down moose @100yards with ease. I always use either a 44 or 45 cal Hornady bullet and sabot combo depending on what I’m shooting at. Anything bigger than a deer gets a .45 of one style or another. No pistol bullets though. I find they are too short and fly apart too much, ruining meat. They are fast and kill well enough, but they really fly apart too.
The victim is lucky he still has an arm!
Nah, it’s a little too close to real life for me.
Unfortunately, some reenactors feel the need to do actual target shooting with their weapons in the off-season, and in cases like this, leave a live round in the chamber, forget about it, and then bring it to the event loaded, only to use it and accidentally hurt someone when the inspections are not properly done. Totally stupid.
The guy was shot with a replica .44 cap and ball pistol.
Change the barrel and the cylinder, and it can be anything you want it to be.
Personally all my black powder weapons are 45 caliber, so that I have no problem loading a 50 into a 45 or a 45 into a 44.
I live between Shiloh and Corinth and it was like reading a local story.
I have a Civil War Sniper's rifle that shoots a hexagonal .45 bullet.
Confederate. It figures. The Confederate units were never known for strict guidelines when it came to safety or organization.
As far as the media reporting what was used, that will have to come later when someone who knows what they’re talking about reports back.
Yeah, he’s going to need to put some ice on it. ;-)
“Up for a little reenactment?
Sounds familiar ... could have been. My dad had me read a book about sniping .... how it started and the whole history of it up to Vietnam ... then I read “Point of Impact” ...very good book.
“Hey buddy, bite this!”
Actually that's a myth,the vast majority of civil war operations had some form of anesthesia,be it chloroform or the use of morphine,this led to the US,s first drug epidemic since the effects and dosages were not well understood
there actually was a name for this "old soldiers disease"
Dixie Ping, Brother!
My Pedersoli .45 smokepole shoots .457 balls , how do you jam a .50 caliber in a .45 caliber barrel?
with a hammer....
lol..I have used the side of the tree my deer stand was on when in a hurry while said buck studied me curiously
Tis his story let him tell it.
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