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US captain fails in attempt to escape from pirates
Yahoo News ^ | 04-10-2009 | AFP

Posted on 04/10/2009 6:21:26 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US ship captain being held hostage by pirates off Somalia jumped off the lifeboat where he was being held early Friday but failed to escape his captors, US networks reported. Captain Richard Phillips jumped into the water during the night and tried to swim towards the nearby US destroyer, the USS Bainbridge, but pirates jumped in and recaptured him, three US television networks reported. US military officials told CNN that Phillips was in good condition and that the pirates did not hurt him. The Bainbridge, accompanied by a P-3 Orion surveillance plane, was preventing the pirates from moving their hostage to a larger ship. Meanwhile Vice Admiral William Gortney, the commander of the US 5th Fleet based in Bahrain, told CNN that negotiations between officers on the Bainbridge backed by FBI experts and the pirates were continuing. "We have the USS Bainbridge on station currently negotiating with the pirates to get our American citizen back," Gortney told CNN. Gortney said a key concern was that the pirates were in touch with clan members on the mainland and could try to draw reinforcements to the standoff. "They are communicating. With communication possibly comes coordination, cooperation with each other," Gortney said. Somali pirates have attacked numerous ships in the area in recent months, but this was the first attempted hijacking of a US-crewed vessel -- an act Gortney said represented a new stage in the piracy crisis. "We always thought that one of the potential game changers out there was the US flag -- with US citizens onboard.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: escape; maritime; obama; pirates; richardphillips; somalia; somalipirates
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Where were the Navy Sharp Shooters...
1 posted on 04/10/2009 6:21:26 AM PDT by broken_arrow1
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To: broken_arrow1

Delivering Obama’s pizza chef


2 posted on 04/10/2009 6:22:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: broken_arrow1

where were the sharpshooters and the SEALS?

This is disgraceful

Calling Ross Perot


3 posted on 04/10/2009 6:23:56 AM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: broken_arrow1

Navy Sharpshooters? With Obama as our President, you think a Naval officer is going to give an order to take out a Somali “civilian” caught up in the fray, because “civilian” is exactly what this administration & the media would call the guy who swam after the captain. The media would swallow the story the guy the Navy sharpshooter took out was simply caught up in this thing and was actually trying to rescue the captain from drowning. The Naval officer would be demoted and face charges. The sharpshooter would be kicked out of the service and the family of the “civilian” would get $100,000 taxpayer bucks for their agony!


4 posted on 04/10/2009 6:25:38 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: broken_arrow1

Why weren’t there Seals in the water? Are there instructions from the White House to avoid a confrontation?


5 posted on 04/10/2009 6:25:47 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: broken_arrow1

WORST HEADLINE EVER!

HE didn’t fail. Our people should have been able to grab him the second he escaped from that vessel.


6 posted on 04/10/2009 6:26:00 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: broken_arrow1

You would think that infrared sights would be trained on those undocumented Somalia sailors

Guess not. The Captain made a bold attempt for freedom and no one was even paying attention? That’s harsh.


7 posted on 04/10/2009 6:26:52 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: broken_arrow1

Dead Men Floating

Why are these guys still sucking in oxygen?

An unbelievable failure of leadership.

8 posted on 04/10/2009 6:27:07 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Joann37
The pirates should’ve been nailed the moment the Capitan jumped. This of course would happen after Bambi had their rights read to them.
9 posted on 04/10/2009 6:27:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: broken_arrow1

After this incident, the Navy should unload on Somali ports and Pirate ships. That will learn them!


10 posted on 04/10/2009 6:28:32 AM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: broken_arrow1
Two explanations for this:

-He has more sympathy for those Muslim pirates than he does for our American sailors, and/or

-He's simply a big, fat pu$$y. He makes Jimmy Carter look like Chuck Norris.

11 posted on 04/10/2009 6:29:14 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: broken_arrow1
SEAL under boat with re breather and knife. Sharpshooters. Happy ending.
12 posted on 04/10/2009 6:29:35 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: broken_arrow1
Someone called into Rush L's show yesterday (a captain on a merchant marine) who said another captain had emailed him telling him that Obammie’s Commies had instructed the crew of the captured ship that they'd be held accountable for any harm caused to the pirates.

I know, I know, purely anecdotal and hearsay.

If true, though, how entirely backwards.

These pirates need to be made into fish food. FAST.

13 posted on 04/10/2009 6:30:16 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If you haven't read "The Creature from Jekyll Island," you probably don't know what's going on.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Remind me, why do we have a Navy?


14 posted on 04/10/2009 6:30:55 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: romanesq
Isn't that something? The captain makes a brave break for it and no one was paying the least bit of attention. This is so embarrassing.

If even one of those so-called pirates gets out of this alive it'll be one too many.
15 posted on 04/10/2009 6:31:57 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: broken_arrow1

This is so wrong and so embarrassing. Where are the Seals/Delta? ... if they had been unleashed this whole piracy problem could have been solved in 48 hours. Just a few pirates are holding the mightiest nation hostage ... this does bode well for our future on the world stage.


16 posted on 04/10/2009 6:32:17 AM PDT by Daffynition (Have you noticed Obama voters are having buyer's remorse?)
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To: MuttTheHoople

unfortunately for our shipping interests obama sees these pirates as
a) black muslims
b) fellow africans
c)community organizers
d) wealth redistributors

meanwhile, let there be St Louis pizza at the WH today


17 posted on 04/10/2009 6:32:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: broken_arrow1

Calling Jimmy Carter..... (sic)

this is pathetic


18 posted on 04/10/2009 6:32:49 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: MuttTheHoople

No, 0bama makes Woody Allen look like John Wayne.


19 posted on 04/10/2009 6:35:00 AM PDT by unkus
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To: broken_arrow1

Was the destroyer monitoring the pirate boat? They do have night vision in the Navy right?

As soon as the captain was overboard and out of direct line of fire, flip on the CWIS and turn the rest of the pirates into chum. They don’t have men standing watch with .50cal guns?


20 posted on 04/10/2009 6:35:38 AM PDT by burnitup
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To: ladyjane

btt


21 posted on 04/10/2009 6:37:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: broken_arrow1

Pathetic. The hostage separates himself from his captors but gets no help.

Meanwhile, “We have the USS Bainbridge on station currently negotiating with the pirates.” What BS!


22 posted on 04/10/2009 6:37:51 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fleagle

It’s really bothering me. And not in a good way on Good Friday.


23 posted on 04/10/2009 6:38:03 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: broken_arrow1
"We always thought that one of the potential game changers out there was the US flag -- with US citizens onboard."

With Obambi calling the shots? The US and all US citizens everywhere in the world are in more danger because everyone knows he's weak.

24 posted on 04/10/2009 6:39:06 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: silverleaf
where were the sharpshooters and the SEALS?

I'm sure that they're under orders not to interfere from the White House. Wouldn't want to show any American arrogance now would we?
25 posted on 04/10/2009 6:39:16 AM PDT by hreardon
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To: MuttTheHoople

I think Bow-rack O-bow-ma WANTS this to end without any violence from our side to demonstrate to the whole world that the US is now a respectful and docile member of the world community.


26 posted on 04/10/2009 6:40:06 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: broken_arrow1
Where were the Navy Sharp Shooters...

Obama had not released their ammo to them.

27 posted on 04/10/2009 6:41:18 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: MuttTheHoople

As I see this there are two options. They call the White House and the Messiah teleports himself to the scene, walks on water, strikes the bad guys blind and rescues the captain.

Or we exchange prisoners. Obama for a real hero. We get our guy back and Barry gets to go home.


28 posted on 04/10/2009 6:41:21 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: broken_arrow1

Easy for me to say but it seems that if surrounded and confronted in close quarters, the pirates can either harm the captain and die, or release him. I don’t think they are suicide martyrs.

Should the navy sink these other hostage ships the pirates are sending out? The survivors can be rescued at sea. I think at this point you forget about the insurance value of ships which are being used by an enemy power.

But then it would be pointless to lose the hostages. Can’t we sink that lifeboat and pick the survivors out of the water?


29 posted on 04/10/2009 6:41:32 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: fleagle

“no one was paying the least bit of attention.”

I doubt that was the case. They probably have orders to do NOTHING without consulting the White House. So,,, no “spur of the moment” actions can be taken. Me? If I were Captain, I would have done what people are suggesting. Seals in the water, Flash bang into the boat as soon as our guy hit the water. Then take out the pirates. Call the White House and say, “We have our man. The pirates are dead.” At least, that’s what I’d like to think I would do. And screw the consequences! Who knows? It’s kinda hard to actually put ourselves into that situation.


30 posted on 04/10/2009 6:42:26 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: MuttTheHoople
He makes Jimmy Carter look like Chuck Norris

Pretty gutsy mentioning Jimmy Carter and Chuck Norris in the same sentence. You could get banned. :)

31 posted on 04/10/2009 6:42:34 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: burnitup
As soon as the captain was overboard and out of direct line of fire, flip on the CWIS and turn the rest of the pirates into chum. They don’t have men standing watch with .50cal guns?

Oh sure, the capt. may not be IN the boat, but he's in the water nearby. CWIS and Ma Deuces aren't exactly known for their pinpoint accuracy.

32 posted on 04/10/2009 6:42:35 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: swain_forkbeard

Wouldn’t be surprised. The Kumbaya pres__ent can’t mar his record by blasting a few pirates!


33 posted on 04/10/2009 6:42:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: libs_kma
The US and all US citizens everywhere in the world are in more danger because everyone knows he's weak.

No kidding. It's going to be open season on Americans abroad after this...
34 posted on 04/10/2009 6:44:14 AM PDT by hreardon
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To: burnitup

Comon guys! You can’t cwiz the boat with the Captain in the water next to it!!!!!!! That would mean no more captain. The Navy Destroyer is not right next to it. To get the Captain out of their without him getting killed is the trick.


35 posted on 04/10/2009 6:44:26 AM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: hreardon

Bobo is voting “present” again.


36 posted on 04/10/2009 6:45:08 AM PDT by Kandy
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To: broken_arrow1

One of the prime needs of a sharp shooter is a stationary platform from which to fire, especially at the distance we’re talking about here. I doubt the deck of a destroyer, even in relatively calm seas, is stable enough to afford a decent shot.

I get very antsy when I see how long this is taking. But then I realize that as bad as it is for all of us it must be really tough on the pirates, not to mention the captain.

I am sure that the delay works to the good of the captain, tough as it is on those of us watching from afar, praying for his safe return!


37 posted on 04/10/2009 6:47:10 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

True Bogus. I should clarify that I’m not blaming the Navy on this. They take orders from our POS POTUS, who as we know would rather sit down for arugula and cigarettes with his Muslim brothers than take the needed steps to rescue the captain and send the pirates to the bottom of the ocean.


38 posted on 04/10/2009 6:47:56 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: AFreeBird

The CWIS yeah, it’s an area weapon, but Marine snipers in Lebanon back in 83 used the Ma Deuce as a makeshift long range sniper weapon.


39 posted on 04/10/2009 6:49:24 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226103/posts

THE Royal Navy, once the scourge of brigands on the high seas, has been told by the Foreign Office not to detain pirates because doing so may breach their human rights.

Warships patrolling pirate-infested waters, such as those off Somalia, have been warned that there is also a risk that captured pirates could claim asylum in Britain.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


40 posted on 04/10/2009 6:51:14 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: Daffynition

Just like Lyndon Johnson in Vietnam, Barry is behind the scenes calling the shots, giving great consideration to his own political hide. Our military is fully capable of dealing with this quickly and smoothly. Don’t blame the Navy.


41 posted on 04/10/2009 6:51:52 AM PDT by cblue55 (If you aren't outraged you aren't paying attention)
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To: romanesq

The captain probably figured, with Obama bowing to the Saudi’s and saying we will never be at war with Islam, that his only chance to freedom was to escape on his own. I think Obama has given the Navy strict orders that they are not to use force. This moron will make Jimmy Carter look like a warmonger. We need to start preemptively start blowing out of the water any Somali ship with Somali men and no fishing rods. If they aren’t fishing, they must be pirates, blow them away.


42 posted on 04/10/2009 6:52:40 AM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: jwparkerjr

“One of the prime needs of a sharp shooter is a stationary platform from which to fire, especially at the distance we’re talking about here. I doubt the deck of a destroyer, even in relatively calm seas, is stable enough to afford a decent shot.”

That’s only half the equation. The targets are bobbing up and down and probably partially obscured in a lifeboat. Even in calm sea states, a lifeboat will be moving with the swells. Not an easy shot for even the best shooter.


43 posted on 04/10/2009 6:52:46 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: swain_forkbeard

The Bainbridge should come home. Flag at half mast.


44 posted on 04/10/2009 6:53:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: broken_arrow1

An idea: give the pirates a kilogram of opium, pipes, and lighters. I doubt they’d have ability to resist smoking themselves into basket cases. Once the captain is rescued, shoot a hole in the boat and leave them to their own devices.


45 posted on 04/10/2009 6:56:06 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Melchior
We have a Navy to control the seas. They are subject to the ROE as imposed by military and civilian leadership. The head of that civilian leadership is the CiC.

This kind of crap never happended under President Bush's watch. The pirates pretty much know who to screw with based on their risk analysis.

46 posted on 04/10/2009 6:56:26 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: broken_arrow1

“Where were the Navy Sharp Shooters...”

Sharp Shooter heck. A near sided squid with a 50 cal would of been enough. Good guy in water, bad guy jumping in after, raft behind then turning into a fiberglass splinters and gory pirate pieces. End of hostage ordeal.


47 posted on 04/10/2009 6:59:06 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Party like its 1773)
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To: cblue55

Please, I didn’t mean to imply that it is the Navy’s fault at all! I know that if unleashed they could obliterate all of Somalia and I’d like to see that happen as pay back for October 3, 1993. ;-D


48 posted on 04/10/2009 6:59:49 AM PDT by Daffynition (Have you noticed Obama voters are having buyer's remorse?)
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To: silverleaf
You forgot:

e) future democrat voters
49 posted on 04/10/2009 7:02:26 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Unions are great, providing you are too weak or too stupid to stay employed by your own merit.)
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To: Melchior
Remind me, why do we have a Navy?

Good point, well-made, to those who know the answer. "... to the shores of Tripoli..."

50 posted on 04/10/2009 7:02:27 AM PDT by txnuke (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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