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PajamasMedia: Klavan on the Culture ^ | March 31, 2009 | Andrew Klavan

Posted on 04/10/2009 12:14:51 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla

My first video commentary is now available:

See it here


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: andrewklavan; klavan; rino; tactics; teaparty
LOL!
BINGO!

Klavan has also proven how far Bush, McCain and whoever controls the GOP purse strings have moved Left.

Message to conservatives at Tea Parties and all other functions: Do not allow “liberals” (in whatever disguise they show up in) shut you up.

1 posted on 04/10/2009 12:14:51 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

A “Klavan” is where KKK members hang out...no thanks!


2 posted on 04/10/2009 12:22:12 PM PDT by meandog (The only "Bush" sounding surname worth a damn belongs to NASCAR's Kurt&Kyle Busch--not GEORGE!)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Put me on yer calender for 2010......


3 posted on 04/10/2009 12:25:46 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Afronaut; American in Israel; Amerigomag; AnnaZ; Aquinasfan; Avoiding_Sulla; BaBaStooey; Badray; ...

Ping


4 posted on 04/10/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Libtards “shutting up” during the previous 8 years worked well, didn’t it?

I have one thing to say to this idiot - STFU&GTH


5 posted on 04/10/2009 12:31:25 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Very good! He said what I've been saying for years. Only thing is, he says it without screaming, spitting, and losing his temper. LOL


6 posted on 04/10/2009 12:32:07 PM PDT by papasmurf (Guns didn't make America unsafe, Courts and Congress did!)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Gay Republicans split (insert own jokes) (Politico 04/10/09 Ben Smith)

"Essentially, there's no voice for gay Republicans or gay conservatives in particular in D.C. right now. Log Cabin has been completely and totally absent here in D.C. for months and months," Barron said. "It has simply moved way too far to the left and is basically indistinguishable from any other gay left organization."

The ideological battle has been playing out in the gay media and on some blogs for a while, spurred in part by the Blade's revelation that the Log Cabin Republicans' biggest backer is a prominent Democrat, Tim Gill. Their complaint, in general, is that Log Cabin has grown indistinguishable from left-leaning gay rights groups.


7 posted on 04/10/2009 12:33:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: SoldierDad
When we get attacked again... it will be open season on these leftist islamic terrorist lovers.

LLS

8 posted on 04/10/2009 12:48:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Who is Andrew klavan?


9 posted on 04/10/2009 12:50:27 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: papasmurf
Very good! He said what I've been saying for years.

Super guy. He was hands down the best speaker at the Tax Rally in Santa Barbara on April 4th. The other speakers were boring politicians for the most part. Tammy Bruce was okay but she didn't really get the crowd all ginned up. We are having another protest on Tax Day in Santa Barbara. The protest on April 15th is our official Tax Day Tea Party in Alameda Park. We won't have any politicians or paid speakers...just passionate patriots, old school protest music and a march to the IRS.

10 posted on 04/10/2009 12:54:07 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: lonestar; Zevonismymuse
Not sure. But he's someone who speaks well as shown in the video.

And even if he's a moderate (as some are who write at pajamas media) his exposition also exposes those in the GOP who have done and continue to do the same thing -- attack those who disagree with them in the hopes of getting principled conservatives to shut up.

11 posted on 04/10/2009 1:05:08 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
He is good. But I could do without the skin-head. It invites "shut up" to the entire presentation, as we have seen.
12 posted on 04/10/2009 1:05:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (It's time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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To: meandog

Was your comment a joke or do you have some substantive charge to make?


13 posted on 04/10/2009 1:06:42 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Zevonismymuse; All

Just a general question. Why are politicians allowed to speak at our protests on April 15? They are the problem and now they want to steal some of the limelight.

Unless there name is Coburn, Pence, DeMint or Palin - tell them to stay home.


14 posted on 04/10/2009 1:32:37 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Puts me in mind of something Ann Couter might say . . . and did.


15 posted on 04/10/2009 1:39:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Who is Andrew klavan?

He is teaming with Andrew Breitbart on the “Big Hollywood” website, among other things


16 posted on 04/10/2009 1:43:39 PM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted...having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time)
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To: meandog

I probably shouldn’t know this, but Klansmen hang out at a Klavern, not a Klavan...


17 posted on 04/10/2009 1:45:50 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Nice piece! Thanks!


18 posted on 04/10/2009 2:12:40 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Do we lower ourselves to their level when we respond:

“Make me!”


19 posted on 04/10/2009 2:23:55 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Zevonismymuse

Isn’t, or wasn’t, he a write at LA Times?


20 posted on 04/10/2009 3:19:28 PM PDT by papasmurf (Guns didn't make America unsafe, Courts and Congress did!)
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To: meandog; Avoiding_Sulla
A “Klavan” is where KKK members hang out...no thanks!

That would be klaven.

21 posted on 04/10/2009 3:29:37 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: papasmurf
Isn’t, or wasn’t, he a writer at LA Times?

He recently wrote an editorial that was published by the LA Times but I am not sure if he is on staff. The article was challenging people who hate Rush to actually listen to him before they made up their minds.

22 posted on 04/10/2009 4:00:38 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: NTHockey
Why are politicians allowed to speak at our protests on April 15? They are the problem and now they want to steal some of the limelight.

The Tax Day Tea Party I am involved with has asked ALL politicians to stay away. We are just trying to get people excited about the Founding Fathers and the principles on which this country was founded. The problem with including any politicians...well...it gets political. You and I probably don't agree on who the best GOP leader is. In 2008 I supported Romney on FR on got all kinds of names thrown at me. My conservative credentials were questioned, etc. Right now I just want to start at ground zero: The Bail-Out was immoral. The current Budget is Immoral. I want to go back to the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. You would not believe how full of crap things get when ever the wanna-bees around the politicians get involved. There are some absolutely HORRIBLE people who hang around politicians. Parasites.

23 posted on 04/10/2009 4:07:42 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse

I could not agree with you more. Romney was not my cup of tea (pun intended), but hey, you are entitled to your opinion. That’s what made America great.

Today, politicians and their toadies are only interested in two things: 1)reelection and 2)image. Principles and ethics are about 98-99 on the list.


24 posted on 04/10/2009 7:24:56 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: meandog

A “Klavan” is where KKK members hang out...no thanks!

Gotta call Bravo Sierra on the above.

What you meant was “klavern”, not klavan.

A 1960’s song was titled “Is there a Klavern in your town?”.

It had a line about some of the members “Got so much cash, now, by Gum, we’re rich white trash”.

Needless to say, Sen. Byrd is not amused.

Pity.


25 posted on 04/10/2009 9:07:22 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Klavan : “ ... listen to the people they don’t want you to listen to. And whatever you do, don’t shut up.”

Excellent advice!


26 posted on 04/10/2009 9:51:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Klavan

Andrew Klavan (born 1954 in New York City) is an American author and screenwriter of “tough-guy” mysteries and psychological thrillers. Two of Klavan’s books have been adapted into motion pictures: True Crime (1999) and Don’t Say A Word (2001). He has been nominated for the Edgar Award four times and has won twice. Playwright and novelist Laurence Klavan is his brother.[1]

Early life

Klavan’s father was Gene Klavan, a New York disk jockey and one-half of the radio show “Klavan and Finch.”

(snip)

Political philosophy

Identifying himself as a political conservative, Klavan has expressed the view that “rightists” are the victims of discrimination in Hollywood.[3] In July 2008 he likened George W. Bush to Batman in The Dark Knight, starting with their public vilification.[4] Klavan compared “left-wing” realistic films and “conservative” fantasy films as genres that comment explicitly or metaphorically on martial values.


27 posted on 04/10/2009 9:56:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Message to conservatives at Tea Parties and all other functions: Do not allow “liberals” (in whatever disguise they show up in) shut you up.

Mother of all pings!

28 posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:31 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: NTHockey
Principles and ethics are about 98-99 on the list.

And that is a list of 100!

29 posted on 04/11/2009 8:01:51 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
A reply I often use in our local newspaper forum when their argument (as it often does) boils down to "shut up."

No, I won't shut up, but thanks for asking!
30 posted on 04/11/2009 9:39:35 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SoldierDad
I have one thing to say to this idiot - STFU&GTH

I'm guessing you didn't watch the video?

31 posted on 04/11/2009 4:35:12 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for filling in the blanks. (again! :))


32 posted on 04/11/2009 8:21:57 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

You’re welcome. But I must confess it was done out of self protection. I followed your link, posted my first comment about liking the video, and then started to read posts that talked about the KKK. My stomach dropped (”Egads! did I just compliment a Wht Suprmcst?) LOL. I was happy to read his biography and find that those posts were bogus.


33 posted on 04/11/2009 8:24:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

You think YOU were unsettled? I posted it! LOL.

I didn’t bother checking because he’s a regular at pjmedia and they’d be even more embarrassed, so I figured he was okay.

Still, I was a bit deflated even though I suspected the first poster was simply ruffing a sophomoric pun from the near homophone of Klavan’s name. Take note of my question to him at number 13.

Whether or not the doubt invoked by this “joke” was intentional or not, I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) is exactly the effect disruptors aim to create. There is always a chance that it indeed was a defensive measure by a resident establishmentarian type looking to diminish his Klavan’s apt message.

In reality, I think, it demonstrates the kind of self-inflicted “shut up” establishment types have counted upon for years. I think it is time for a change in our responses. You made it easier to do so. So thanks again for making the facts clear.


34 posted on 04/11/2009 8:49:00 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: calcowgirl

I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) were affected....


35 posted on 04/11/2009 8:50:33 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
You think YOU were unsettled? I posted it! LOL.

LOL! Good point!

Whether or not the doubt invoked by this “joke” was intentional or not, I think how you and I (and who knows how many others) is exactly the effect disruptors aim to create.... In reality, I think, it demonstrates the kind of self-inflicted “shut up” establishment types have counted upon for years. I think it is time for a change in our responses.

Yup! I agree.

So thanks again for making the facts clear.

No problem! Just doin't my part. I always enjoy your posts. :-)

P.S.... I am now reminded that I had some history to study and didn't get back to that (re: screenname). So many things to do, so little time!

36 posted on 04/11/2009 9:01:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: lonestar; calcowgirl; grandpa jones; Carry_Okie; papasmurf; Zevonismymuse
I should have found this answer to "who is Andrew Klavan?" last week, but better late than never. :)

Several of you had bits and pieces of the picture, so I have pinged you to fill you in on the rest.

From http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklavan/2009/02/18/welcome/


37 posted on 04/17/2009 10:14:30 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
We must fight them in the movies, we must fight them in the novels, we must fight them in the music videos. We must never surrender!

This is key. We have to beat them at their own game. Your school teachers were wrong when they told you, "This is not a popularity contest!" Everything is a popularity contest. We need to be cool and likable. We need to lead the fun parade, and we can do it while adhering to our core values and principles.

I heard Andrew Klavan speak a few weeks ago and he is an excellent example of someone who is cool and conservative. I ordered Empire of Lies because I am voting with my dollars. I engage in commerce with people who are good for America and I withhold dollars from anti-America types. I have always done this but I am doing it with increased gusto and encouraging my less intense friends to do the same.

Being Cool at the SB Tax Protest

38 posted on 04/18/2009 6:59:48 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse

great video!


39 posted on 04/19/2009 10:56:42 AM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted...having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time)
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