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Family of father stabbed to death by thugs denied compensation...because he tried to fight back
The Daulu Maik (UK) ^ | 10th April 2009 | By Wil Longbottom

Posted on 04/10/2009 1:16:14 PM PDT by MaestroLC

The family of a man who was stabbed to death by teenage thugs after he asked them to keep the noise down have been denied compensation - because he tried to fight off his killers.

Kevin Johnson, 22, was brutally murdered by the gang who invited him to 'meet Mr Stanley' during a confrontation outside his home moments before plunging a blade into his chest, arm and back.

The young father collapsed a few feet from his front door whilst the trio - aged 19, 16 and 17 - ran off in 'triumphant mood' before stabbing their second victim a short distance away.

But after applying for a maximum £11,000 in compensation Mr Johnson's family have been told that they do not meet the criteria as he tried to fight off the gang who took his life.

The Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority has twice rejected John Johnson’s case. They ruled that the demolition worker had 'significantly' contributed to his own death.

Mr Johnson, 57, will now make a last-ditch plea before an independent tribunal this month - almost two years after his son was murdered on his doorstep on the Pennywell estate in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear.

'I'm livid. They’ve got no empathy or any regard for us,' he said yesterday. 'The £11,000 is all they value a person's life at. And then you have to fight for it. It’s absolutely disgusting.

'Obviously they just want to keep the costs down for the Government. The criminals get all sorts of help and that’s called human rights. Yet we don’t seem to have any human rights.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: compensation; family; father; stabbed; wherestheoutrage
Outrageous. What was he supposed to do, let them slaughter him to death!? Blaming the victim. Sick!

And this is what the Statists want for the American court system.

1 posted on 04/10/2009 1:16:14 PM PDT by MaestroLC
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To: MaestroLC

And Obie wants us to emulate Europe! Shame on the UK!


2 posted on 04/10/2009 1:18:03 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: MaestroLC

Yet we don’t seem to have any human rights.’

Prey don’t have rights.


3 posted on 04/10/2009 1:19:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MaestroLC

Criminals, not the government, should compensate crime victims.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 1:22:25 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: MaestroLC

My God, what is wrong with that country, have they completely lost their minds?

Is this what the current leadership in our country wants for us? Folks we are in a world of danger.


5 posted on 04/10/2009 1:22:57 PM PDT by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: MaestroLC
Family of father stabbed to death by thugs denied compensation...because he tried to fight back

Now I've heard everything... WTF?

6 posted on 04/10/2009 1:22:59 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: MaestroLC

Just makes you want to go to Greatt Brittain, doesn’t it, folks. [Pronouncing my _T_s there, ‘cause emulating Euro-trash is in style.]


7 posted on 04/10/2009 1:25:42 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Ace the Biker

Socialism rots societies from the inside out.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 1:26:10 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

“Socialism rots societies from the inside out.”

I am not happy to come to this conclusion, but I think ultimately preventing it and restoring sanity in society will require force. I will fight for the future of my child, if it comes to that.


9 posted on 04/10/2009 1:31:44 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: MaestroLC
These sick bastardly government officials make me want to puke. This is exactly the attitude and conditions the Obamanation wants to bring to America IMHO.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES

OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

10 posted on 04/10/2009 1:32:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: familyop
Just makes you want to go to Greatt Brittain, doesn’t it, folks

yeah to organize a revolution. (Sarcasm)

11 posted on 04/10/2009 1:34:01 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: MaestroLC

But why should he get 11,000(lbs) in the first place?


12 posted on 04/10/2009 1:34:05 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: MaestroLC
Honest t'pete .. I wish t'HELL I was a gun runner.

So many righteous people need guns.

13 posted on 04/10/2009 1:34:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: MaestroLC
But after applying for a maximum £11,000 in compensation Mr Johnson's family have been told that they do not meet the criteria as he tried to fight off the gang who took his life.

Personally, I'd settle for them being hanged by the neck until they're dead, in lieu of monetary compensation. But "cool Britannia" doesn't do that kind of thing any more, does it?

14 posted on 04/10/2009 1:35:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Ace the Biker

bttt


15 posted on 04/10/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: stevio
But why should he get 11,000(lbs) in the first place?

My guess is that this is blood money - of a kind - from the state, in lieu of executing his son's murderers. Personally, I'd settle for the pleasure of watching them dangle from a scaffold.

16 posted on 04/10/2009 1:37:54 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: MaestroLC

“They ruled that the demolition worker had ‘significantly’ contributed to his own death.”

WTF? I guess they want him to sit in his home, shaking with fear and unarmed.


17 posted on 04/10/2009 1:48:41 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: Zhang Fei

British subjects are denied the right to self-defense so the government has an obligation to provide compensation for the failure of the police to protect and serve.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 1:51:13 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: holdonnow

FYI, Mark...


19 posted on 04/10/2009 1:56:21 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Please read my tagline. I have been saying this for years.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 2:04:47 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really! It's time; NOW)
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To: MaestroLC

In leftist religion and ideology killing in self-defense is a far more heinous crime than murder because killing in self defense is the rational act of a rational person and is the deliberate taking of a human life. Murder is the act of a disordered person who is not rational and therefore is excusable and not criminal at all.


21 posted on 04/10/2009 2:06:32 PM PDT by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: MaestroLC

It has come to this: people no longer have a right to defend themselves, and if they do defend themselves, they and their families will be punished by the state. The criminals are officially in charge, and the state is upholding their authority.


22 posted on 04/10/2009 2:16:46 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: MaestroLC

As said as it is, the answer to your question is “Yes”.

I am not joking or exaggerating.

British law holds that in a confrontation, if both parties use force (regardless of the justification), both parties are equally culpable. Thus, in the eyes of the law, you will be held responsible if you hurt/maim/kill an assailant to the same degree as will the assailant if he hurts/maims/kills you.

There are some variations across European countries, but, as a general rule, European courts either frown on self-defense or have outlawed it explicitly.


23 posted on 04/10/2009 2:59:21 PM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: Jeff Head

BTTT.


24 posted on 04/10/2009 3:14:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: La Lydia

I have read that that is the case over there in the UK.

But I have always wondered, what happens when the honest citizens decide that THEY might as well be criminals themselves?

Wouldn’t the citizens then get better treatment? A whole nation of criminals is what this will lead to.


25 posted on 04/10/2009 3:26:31 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: familyop
Just makes you want to go to Greatt Brittain, doesn’t it, folks. [Pronouncing my _T_s there, ‘cause emulating Euro-trash is in style.]

Yes, and let's call everyone in the Americas (that's North, Central and Southern America for you) Ameri-trash for what's going on in Mexico while we're at it...pathetic!
26 posted on 04/11/2009 2:59:57 PM PDT by Moltke
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To: ForeignDude
There are some variations across European countries, but, as a general rule, European courts either frown on self-defense or have outlawed it explicitly.

I call this BS. Care to cite some actual laws?
27 posted on 04/11/2009 3:05:17 PM PDT by Moltke
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To: Moltke
"Yes, and let's call everyone in the Americas (that's North, Central and Southern America for you) Ameri-trash for what's going on in Mexico while we're at it...pathetic!"

You may as well do it for what is going on in the USA. Maybe it will help stop us from rearing generations of children without fathers.


28 posted on 04/11/2009 3:38:32 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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