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Warren Waver On Prop 8 Stuns Leaders: Stance About-Face At Issue
The Washington Times ^ | April 10, 2009

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:05:26 PM PDT by Steelfish

Warren waver on Prop 8 stuns leaders Stance about-face at issue

By Julia Duin April 11, 2009

Evangelical leaders say they are bewildered and stunned by the Rev. Rick Warren's apparent turnaround on gay marriage after the famous California pastor said earlier this week that he was not a proponent of California's Proposition 8.

Mr. Warren told CNN's Larry King on Monday that he "never once even gave an endorsement" of the proposition, which said marriage in the state could only involve one man and one woman.

The measure won at the polls last November by a close margin, in effect negating an earlier California Supreme Court ruling allowing gay marriages.

Proponents of the proposition had gathered from earlier comments that Mr. Warren stood with them on the issue, and they reacted vigorously to his CNN interview.

"I was extremely troubled by the way he appeared to be so anxious to distance himself from the same-sex issue and to make clear he was not an 'activist' and that he'd only addressed the issue in a very minor way," said the Rev. Al Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

Wendy Wright, president of Concerned Women for America, said his denial is "absolutely baffling."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: apostate; homosexualagenda; prop8; rickwarren; saddleback

1 posted on 04/10/2009 10:05:26 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

He is enjoying his fame a little too much.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 10:07:11 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Steelfish

Putting man’s ideals above God’s principles in the name of “getting along”. Sad


3 posted on 04/10/2009 10:10:05 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Steelfish

I guess we know which church they will be using to get married. For Warren to refuse them would be hypocritical.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 10:10:14 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: Steelfish
...Bible/schmibel

God didn't really mean some of that stuff.

/sarc

5 posted on 04/10/2009 10:11:04 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: Steelfish

Devout evangelical Christian can’t support a fundamental issue? What kind of photos do they have of him?


6 posted on 04/10/2009 10:11:20 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (He bows to the Saudi King - we don't have Camelot, we have Camel Lot)
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To: Steelfish

This:

“The measure won at the polls last November by a close margin, in effect negating an earlier California Supreme Court ruling allowing gay marriages”

Is a lie, the defense of marriage act passed in CA by the same margin as Obama’s electoral victory, nowhere will Obamao’s victory be described as “a close margin”.

Warren is suffering with media disease, let the cameras roll and they lose their character, despite the injunction of “preach the word in season and out of season”.


7 posted on 04/10/2009 10:13:44 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Steelfish

Why this baffles anyone with an once of discernment is beyond me.

Anybody watching Warren should have seen this a mile off.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 10:14:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Steelfish
Warren Waver On Prop 8 Stuns Leaders: Stance About-Face At Issue

A true man of GOD doesn’t waver.

9 posted on 04/10/2009 10:15:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama, Arabic for wuss.)
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To: Steelfish

It would appear that Obama “got to him”.... not a good deal...


10 posted on 04/10/2009 10:16:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Steelfish

I wouldn’t stand around too close to Rick Warren from now on. I know that God doesn’t have collateral damage, but I’m just sayin’...


11 posted on 04/10/2009 10:17:02 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Obama bows down to men with sheets on their heads - The NAACP should be outraged!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"It was a pastor talking to his own people," he replied. "I've never said anything about it since. I don't know how you can take one video newsletter to your own church and turn that into — all of a sudden I'm the poster boy for anti-gay marriage."

This guy panicked, he wanted to lead a feel good movement, he wasn't ready to take a stand on anything evidently, sounds to me as though he is worried about losing market share.

12 posted on 04/10/2009 10:19:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: SoConPubbie

Warren was good at the saddleback forum in 08, it’s a disappointment seeing him fold like this as I felt he was a weak kneed in 08 and he proved me wrong, in 09...he’s weak kneed...sad really.


13 posted on 04/10/2009 10:19:40 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Steelfish

The English language can be so redisinterpenetrated.
I wish we all spoke triargargie. That language has
927 quadrillion words; each with only one exact and
historically unchanging meaning. It takes about
seven centuries to learn.


14 posted on 04/10/2009 10:21:31 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree with this post 100%! He is a media hound and catapulted into prominence with his “debates” with McCain and BHO. This guy deserves a millstone around his neck! I hope and pray he loses all his congregants. After that the Gays will devour him.


15 posted on 04/10/2009 10:23:57 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Here, catch, it’s the first stone to cast.


16 posted on 04/10/2009 10:31:47 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Always be wary of goatee sporting fellas.


17 posted on 04/10/2009 10:33:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: doc1019

Yeah, the sad thing is that there are not a lot of evangelicals on the national stage that actually preach “the word”. Of course, if you drop down to the local level, that’s where you’ll find the folks that are actually willing to lay out the doctrine, and that’s truly where it counts anyway.

If you want to know who does the best job of consistently laying out doctrine from the top, it’s the Pope and his minions. The consistency varies, but there are a number of archbishops and bishops that are doing a great job of laying out their doctrine and actually providing consequences for bad behavior (Obama’s address at Notre
Dame comes to mind). I believe it’s the local bishop that will not be attending the ceremony. Excellent! Here’s an example of a religious leader who is siding with doctrine over popularity.

I just wish the evangelicals had a lot of national preachers willing to do the same thing. Sadly, all too many of them are more interested in increasing their popularity, at the expense of the message. Disheartening, but there’s still the local preachers that do the gruntwork for God. Bless all of ‘em.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 10:36:11 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: aliquando

This just seems to apply here as it has to so many men in the “ministry”. Its usually a bad sign when they put their name on things.


19 posted on 04/10/2009 11:07:26 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (Is there no balm in Gilead?....)
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To: Steelfish

He wouldn’t be the first one to use God’s Word for personaly benefit and misleading others to the Word.

Elmer Gantry may have been only a movie, but it is a lot truer than many wish it were.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 11:08:42 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: Steelfish

This sure says something about his character or lack of it.


21 posted on 04/10/2009 11:25:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Steelfish

Religous leaders who take positions that are contradictory to the teachings of the Bible are the unseen traitors in our midst. The core belief that our country was founded on is that we are endowed by God with unalienable rights and not rights granted to us by king nor man. If they are willing to ignore for expediencys sake the word of God ,will they not also ignore our God given rights due to some future circumstance?


22 posted on 04/10/2009 11:30:26 PM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: Steel Bill
The core belief that our country was founded on is that we are endowed by God with unalienable rights and not rights granted to us by king nor man. If they are willing to ignore for expediencys sake the word of God ,will they not also ignore our God given rights due to some future circumstance?

Excellent point.

23 posted on 04/11/2009 2:19:03 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: pissant
Always be wary of goatee sporting fellas.

Wary yes, but when he starts wearing a fruity bow tie too, get a rope.
24 posted on 04/11/2009 3:13:55 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Steelfish

Cashbox Christian.


25 posted on 04/11/2009 3:15:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: Steelfish

Warren’s next book: The $$$$ Driven Life


26 posted on 04/11/2009 4:18:32 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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