Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Let us thank the Somali pirates
American Thinker ^ | April 11, 2009 | James Lewis

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:19 PM PDT by neverdem

Flashback: It's 1979, and President Jimmy Carter is facing a hostage crisis, with American diplomats being kidnapped by Islamist "students" in Tehran. Ayatollah Khomeini overthrew our Cold War ally, the Shah of Iran, with the tacit of the Carter Administration, because it thought of the murderous Ayatollah as "some kind of saint," in the words of former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young.

Jimmy and Zbig have been trying to explain their disastrous ignorance ever since; and because they are mentally stuck in appeasement thinking, they have infected the Obamanites with the same plague bacilli.

Flashforward to 2008, and an American merchant marine captain is being held hostage by Islamist pirates off the coast of Somalia. It's a repeat of 1979, and the world is watching to see if Obama is going to be any more effective than Jimmy Carter was.

Obama may think this is a "distraction". The rest of the world sees it as a test. And so, far Obama is flunking. The world will draw its own conclusions very quickly      

Thank heavens for the pirates! Why? Because we must know as soon as possible if the Obamanites are as incompetent and foolish as they proudly claim to be -- or whether they can summon up the guts to try to rescue the captain. We have plenty of special ops forces who are trained for hostage rescue. The West has forty years of experience in knocking over hostage takers, as Israelis did in Entebbe. But similar methods have been perfected by now, as shown most recently in Colombia, where US forces advised the Colombian government how to deal with another hostage situation.

It always comes with real risk, both to our own troops and to the hostages. And yes, Mr. Obama, we may have to knock some pirates' heads as well.

If Obama fails to take action, watch for Russia to make a move on the Ukraine. China will get more aggressive toward Taiwan. Iran will openly throw sandals at Obama effigies, and the rest of the world will realize --  uh-oh, no more cop on the international beat. North Korea will launch another missile over Japan -- pahdon me, another satellite launch will somehow go astray, heading toward Hawaii.

That means one of two things: either the aggressors start winning, or somebody else has to play the international cop -- the role the United States has carried for sixty years.

So who do you want to play the world's cop?

Russia will happily volunteer do it for Europe, since Europe won't do it for itself. China could squeeze concessions from Japan and South Korea to stop the Norks. And in the Middle East it will either be Israel -- which can protect the Arab countries from nuclear attack by Iran -- or it will be the mad mullahs of Qom. I would guess that the Israelis will bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, with the covert help of Arab Gulf states.

Welcome to the age of American weakness. The whole world, we were told in the last eight years, wanted to bring the US down a notch or two. Well, just be careful what you wish for.

Maybe we should thank the Somali pirates for testing Obama this early in the new administration.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; first100days; impeachobama; jameslewis; obama; obamunism; piracy; pirates; somali; somalia; somalipirates; somalis
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last
The link said his escape was witnessed by a UAV. We should have destroyed the lifeboat once he was off of it.
1 posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:20 PM PDT by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: neverdem

You said — Maybe we should thank the Somali pirates for testing Obama this early in the new administration.

Talk about “testing” a President, take a look at the testing that Reagan went through on my list that I compiled today. It’s quite informative.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=43#43

I don’t think Obama will match up to Reagan and what he had to go through no matter how long Obama is in office.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 10:55:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

With nothing concrete to base this on other than my gut . . . I don’t believe this was the test Biden spoke of during the campaign. What we are watching simply may be an extra.


3 posted on 04/10/2009 10:57:35 PM PDT by BAW (I wish I was a dog and Obama was a tree. I would stand real close to him and raise my leg to pee.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I wonder is this is what Biden meant when he said Obama was going to be tested?


4 posted on 04/10/2009 10:57:44 PM PDT by Balata
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I thought the same thing! Where are our highly trained experts? Perhaps they have been told to stand down and do NOTHING?????
What the hell are we doing... handing our enemies a hammer to pound us with?????


5 posted on 04/10/2009 10:59:42 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; All

I hear another group of pirates with Dutch hostages they have been holding for a while are rushing to join their friends.


6 posted on 04/10/2009 10:59:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Balata

You said — I wonder is this is what Biden meant when he said Obama was going to be tested?

No way! at all...

You gotta look at that list I compiled and you would see this is no test at all...

See post #2


7 posted on 04/10/2009 10:59:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

This is the pre-test. Sort of like the practice test you take before you take the SAT’s.
Just putting it into the ONE’s realm of understanding.
Wonder if he failed that one and the SAT and got into Harvard based on race.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 11:01:56 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Why don’t 4 snipers just fire at once and kill all the pirates? Maybe Obama does not want to hurt the poor Islamic terrorists.


9 posted on 04/10/2009 11:02:04 PM PDT by Islaminaction
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Islaminaction

You really need to get the message....”We are not at war with Islam”.... I’m sure you just forgot... silly you!


10 posted on 04/10/2009 11:03:11 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

Hey, I did the PSAT... :-)

did pretty good actually... [that was long before all the scores started going downhill... ]


11 posted on 04/10/2009 11:03:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

Thanks for the link.


12 posted on 04/10/2009 11:04:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

; ~ )


13 posted on 04/10/2009 11:06:51 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

My bad, I never learn from those that know everything.

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Hillary.


14 posted on 04/10/2009 11:09:21 PM PDT by Islaminaction
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

I’m not surprised at the policy underachievement by “team zer0bama” so far...not even disappointed - I knew to expect this kind of moronic appeasement and inaction.

I’m just terribly concerned for the future security of my Republic and my fellow (non-Obamanation) citizens. None of those in charge are competent to the task.

ner0bama is already fiddling, waiting for America to burn to the ground.

A.A.C.


15 posted on 04/10/2009 11:09:57 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Flashforward to 2008

Say when??
16 posted on 04/10/2009 11:10:03 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler
Of course the ONE is busy with affairs d'etat as well:


17 posted on 04/10/2009 11:10:30 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

I said that with tongue-in-cheek. I don’t think Biden’s IQ is above room temperature.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 11:11:11 PM PDT by Balata
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Islaminaction

You are just an underserved constituent. Maybe you are eligible for a bailout!


19 posted on 04/10/2009 11:11:42 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

I “captioned” that one in another thread; let’s see if I can remember...

Obama says, “Why don’t we rent ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ to see if we can get some ideas about how to handle this crisis!”

LOL...


20 posted on 04/10/2009 11:14:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Somali Pirates - African born black Muslims hell bent on redistribution of wealth by any means possible..

0bama - Same thing......


21 posted on 04/10/2009 11:16:18 PM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
The world will draw its own conclusions very quickly

It WILL be interesting seeing what happens next. I think that if they had made a rescue attempt already, Obama would have got a lot of credit from people for taking action, even if the hostage would have been killed in the attempt.

With the pirates introducing dozens more hostages into the equation, that all changes. Now a lot of innocent people could die in a rescue attempt and everybody would know that they wouldn't have died if action would have been taken immediately.

22 posted on 04/10/2009 11:16:36 PM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AmericanArchConservative

Well, let’s hope that “they” don’t try to test Obama like Reagan... :-)


23 posted on 04/10/2009 11:17:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler
Obama says, “Why don’t we rent ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ to see if we can get some ideas about how to handle this crisis!”

Dammit - gave the only copy to Gordon Brown!

24 posted on 04/10/2009 11:17:35 PM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Wil H

Oh yeah! :-)


25 posted on 04/10/2009 11:18:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

Sorry Obie... Disney doesn’t share their creative realty with ANYONE! Not even you sweetie.


26 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:10 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

White male. That puts me at the bottom of the handout list.


27 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:52 PM PDT by Islaminaction
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Islaminaction
Poor baby....

Don't worry... you are in good company.

28 posted on 04/10/2009 11:21:29 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

Well, Obama’s gonna be lost then... :-)


29 posted on 04/10/2009 11:24:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: All

Additional Link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2225190/posts


30 posted on 04/10/2009 11:25:07 PM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

Yeah... how can you make it without the Mouse????

LOL!


31 posted on 04/10/2009 11:31:32 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: pillut48
"Flashforward to 2008"

Say when??

I asked the admin moderator if we can correct obvious errors like that, or if we can correct omissions like tacit (approval) in the 1st paragraph, without approval being in parentheses. No reply yet.

32 posted on 04/10/2009 11:36:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; SunkenCiv; blam; Allegra; ...

Lots of discusssion on another thread about those lifeboats....they are well put together...


33 posted on 04/10/2009 11:42:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Islaminaction
Why don’t 4 snipers just fire at once and kill all the pirates?

The lifeboat is fully enclosed, so there is no visual aiming point.

34 posted on 04/11/2009 12:09:41 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Black Hawk Down.

Thank you, Mrs. William Jefferson Blythe Clinton!!

35 posted on 04/11/2009 12:41:25 AM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JimRed

As sheer Rambo style speculation I wonder whether one could design a small shaped charge that would pierce the top of the cabin with minimal damage therein and then rapidly release fentanyl like the Russians used in their Moscow hostage crisis. With SEALs pre-positioned for prompt boarding to save the only one who counts. The fentanyl did work well enough then; the problem was it worked too well. With just one to save and having the benefit of the Russian experience it might be workable IF the technical problems could be overcome. We might even be able to keep the details secret as there are no media on the scene, SEALs won’t talk, no terrorists need survive, and the rescued hostage doesn’t need to know the details. If only we could keep the WH out of the loop...


36 posted on 04/11/2009 1:03:29 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Mark
Black Hawk Down

Although the crew's self rescue removed most of the risk for our Dour Leader, at first this had the potential to become "Black Dove Down."

37 posted on 04/11/2009 1:10:07 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Islaminaction

At some point, they’ll ask for food or water....just give them some ‘treated’ food...with lots of Ex-lax. Then stand around and wait for these guys to show problems a couple of hours later.


38 posted on 04/11/2009 1:21:46 AM PDT by pepsionice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Being stupid isn't cheap.

Obama Reaches Out to 'Moderate' Pirate Community

Quebec Has Helicopters for Pepe Le Pew But Not Emergency Patients

Aerosols May Drive a Significant Portion of Arctic Warming

Dissenter on (Global) Warming Expands His Campaign

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

39 posted on 04/11/2009 1:49:02 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

I’d love to hear the scuttlebutt in the SEAL teams right now.


40 posted on 04/11/2009 2:40:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler
Ha Ha Ha, that reminds me of the Washington DC sniper.
The lefties suggested we call in the writers from
one of those cop shows that was shot in Miami. (CSI Miami?)

The reasoning was they had an hour show that had
a sniper picking off people, so they would be able
to figure out the plot line in DC..

Don't you just love to watch Libs scramble all over themselves
to look as foolish as they do?

41 posted on 04/11/2009 3:29:47 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (o) ..junior senator... add fertilizer ... wait awhile... up sprouts a Jr. President..(o)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

O’bozo will get hot on this thing as soon as he finishes his Pizza. He will write a really really nasty note in Red ink to show his disapproval of this whole mess, fear not.


42 posted on 04/11/2009 4:12:57 AM PDT by bikerman (Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Jeez, Peter Pan had more success dealing with pirates than Obama.


43 posted on 04/11/2009 4:45:15 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I heard Bortz say the same thing yesterday, and I agree, in principle....

HOWEVER, apparently, as I heard later:
a) It was at night
b) He was literally in the water for just a few seconds—and the pirates shot a machine gun at him (so he stopped swimming)
c) The Navy Captain is very likely under orders not to fire....UNLESS given an order to by the President...
(that would be the Carter-esque/Clinton-esque, democRat thing to do, right? Can’t trust those wacky military types in the field...)


44 posted on 04/11/2009 5:06:44 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Actually, maybe Obama’s holding-back because the Somali pirates really are sort of “community organizers,” and it’s professional courtesy. Just a thought....


45 posted on 04/11/2009 5:11:31 AM PDT by WEshelman (This Message Contains 100% Recycled Electrons)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BAW

My gut agrees.


Tin Foil / Conspiracy Nut / Black Helicopter Disclaimer:
However there is a small cynical voice that says maybe this was the test and odumba was going to show the world how he could talk the pirates down. The attempted escape by the Captain screwed up odumba’s plan.


46 posted on 04/11/2009 5:18:16 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Americans Bow to No One; Obama Bows to Saudi KINGS and Lies about it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: JohnBovenmyer

What if EVERYONE simply left. The pirates will not gain by killing the hostage. But never give them ransome money. Then the hostage has no value to them.


47 posted on 04/11/2009 5:22:18 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I am reminded of the Mayagüez incident in 1975 when a US container ship was seized by the Cambodians. President Ford immediately sent in the Marines and other US forces and did not attempt negotiations.


48 posted on 04/11/2009 5:25:08 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Who the hell didn’t see this coming last year? I didn’t need proof.....


49 posted on 04/11/2009 6:48:43 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Who the hell didn’t see this coming last year? I didn’t need proof.....


50 posted on 04/11/2009 6:52:52 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson