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(Tea Party) Protest to go ahead without permit (Tea Party/Tax Revolt updates and links)
Rutland Herald ^ | April 11, 2009 | Stephanie M. Peters

Posted on 04/11/2009 8:50:00 AM PDT by abb

West Rutland resident Jon Wallace is moving ahead with plans for Wednesday's Tax Day Tea Party in Main Street Park, despite being denied a special event permit by the Board of Aldermen this week.

When it comes down to it, he said, he's been told he doesn't really need the permit. And he doesn't see how the aldermen think they could deny protestors' First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly anyway, he said.

"My gut feeling was that 'thou doth protest too much,'" Wallace said of the board's decision to deny the permit. Wallace was not at Monday night's aldermen meeting — a sticking point for several members of the board irritated both by the short notice of the request and the fact they couldn't get answers to some lingering questions.

"What are they afraid of?" he said Friday. "If your ear is to the ground and you're listening to people and you're trying to do the people's work, my God you're going to be standing there with us embracing us."

Wallace is the Vermont state coordinator for a grassroots effort to hold a coordinated, national tea party protest. According to the Tax Day Tea Party Web site, more than 600 cities will play host to similar rallies, including Montpelier.

The rallies aren't meant to be divisive or partisan, in fact Wallace describes them as "genteel." That said, he wanted to dot his i's and cross his t's by getting a permit even though the event doesn't feature vendors, require streets to be blocked off or require a police detail.

So he obtained the necessary sign-offs from the Parks and Recreation Department, city police, city fire and the city attorney, as well as liability insurance. Thus he was shocked when he heard his request had been denied.

Alderman William Notte was the first to raise concerns about the event during Monday's meeting. He voted against it, and followed up his decision by writing an e-mail to the group explaining his rationale and noting this doesn't mean the event couldn't go on — a question addressed by City Attorney Andrew Costello during the meeting.

"All we did, in my opinion, by not giving them a special event permit was not give them the city's official approval, which would limit our liability if something went wrong," Notte said.

Police Lt. Kevin Geno also seconded Costello's opinion that when held Wednesday, the rally will not be in violation of the law.

"They were just being cautious and doing the right thing really just to let the city fathers know what was going on," Geno said. "They can still hold it."

If the permit request had been turned in even two weeks sooner — and the permit form does state it should be submitted at least 30 days prior to the proposed event — Notte said he believes it would have been approved without a hitch.

"This is a good example of why anyone coming (to the aldermen with a request) for the first time would be well served to send a representative to the meeting," he said.

While it may be a good idea, it's not a written requirement. Yet Notte wasn't the only alderman to express his displeasure that someone from the group — which it was also noted the board is unfamiliar with — wasn't in attendance.

Wallace didn't know it was expected of him, he said when reached after the meeting Monday night. In fact, he didn't even realize the permit was subject to the board's final OK. He thought he'd already received it.

That confusion could open the city up for accusations of discrimination, according to Allen Gilbert, ACLU of Vermont's executive director.

"It's a problem if the regulation doesn't make clear what their requirements are," Gilbert said. "That sort of vagueness can easily lead to discriminatory treatment and a public body wants to avoid that when it comes to granting permission or withholding permission for using a public space."

David Allaire, president of the Board of Aldermen, said a discussion about tweaking the permit requirements is already under way.

"I think it's a good idea to look at the permit and see if there are some additional requirements that we want to put in place, and also look and see if this is something we want to actually have in an ordinance to give it some basis of law other than just a policy," Allaire said Friday.

He said he wasn't aware before the start of the meeting that any of his board members were planning to take issue with the request. If he had, "maybe we would have been able to contact (Wallace)… (The permit procedures) are not common public knowledge."

stephanie.peters@rutlandherald.com


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: communism; freespeech; liberalnazis; taxes; taxrevolt; teaparty; vermont
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1 posted on 04/11/2009 8:50:02 AM PDT by abb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 444Flyer; 4everontheRight; 4Speed; A Mississippian; A.A. Cunningham; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/11/2009 8:50:55 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Only government approved protests will be allowed.

Mark


3 posted on 04/11/2009 8:52:16 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: abb

About time our side stopped worrying about what the commie opposition says. Screw them, move forward.


4 posted on 04/11/2009 8:53:39 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: abb
David Allaire, president of the Board of Aldermen, said a discussion about tweaking the permit requirements is already under way.

"I think it's a good idea to look at the permit and see if there are some additional requirements that we want to put in place, and also look and see if this is something we want to actually have in an ordinance to give it some basis of law other than just a policy," Allaire said Friday.

I don't know about Mr. Allaire - but personally I don't think there is anything more fulfilling than calling a committee together to discuss tweaks to permit requirements.

5 posted on 04/11/2009 8:56:12 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: abb

French farmers/truckers occasionally paralyze the roadways in protest, I don’t think they get permits for it. The French have more balls than we do in that regard.


6 posted on 04/11/2009 8:56:33 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: abb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226968/posts
Arizona Tea Party Rallies (locations)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226889/posts
The Tea Tantrum Movement

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226866/posts
COUNTDOWN TO APRIL 15TH TEA PARTY DOCUMENT: TWELVE ARTICLES OF DEFENSE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226847/posts
Tea Party role reversal: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226813/posts
Richardson Texas Tea Party

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226766/posts
The Boston Tea Party started over a tax cut (What?!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226744/posts
Tea Parties Are Sooo Scaaary

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226718/posts
Santa Barbara Tax Day Tea Party

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226619/posts
Officials Not Thrilled With Tea-Dumping Plan (Kiss My Arse and go to Heck!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2226566/posts
Some Tea Party Talking Points


7 posted on 04/11/2009 8:57:28 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: MarkL

That FIRST Tea Party for sure didn’t have any permit.


8 posted on 04/11/2009 8:58:45 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: abb
"All we did, in my opinion, by not giving them a special event permit was not give them the city's official approval, which would limit our liability if something went wrong," Notte said.

There ya go! Limited liability!

God save us from the Nottes of this world.

9 posted on 04/11/2009 9:00:05 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: abb

Jolly good for these people!!! It’s very heartening to see that at least a few Americans still have some guts. A PERMIT!!! Unfrigginbelievable.


10 posted on 04/11/2009 9:00:24 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: abb
"I think it's a good idea to look at the permit and see if there are some additional requirements that we want to put in place, and also look and see if this is something we want to actually have in an ordinance to give it some basis of law other than just a policy," Allaire said Friday.

Does anyone see any "additional requirements" in the 1st Amendment to the Bill of Rights?

These people are hidious...

11 posted on 04/11/2009 9:02:23 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: abb

http://www.timesargus.com/article/20090411/NEWS01/904110345/1002/NEWS01
Some 500 Tea-time tax revolt protests planned nationwide

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/11/organizers-recipe-effective-tea-parties/
Organizers Give Recipes for Effective Tea Parties

http://unclewaltsrants.blogspot.com/2009/04/taxpayer-revolt.html
Taxpayer Revolt ...

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20090411/NEWS03/904110367/1004/NEWS03
Some 500 Tea-Time Tax Revolt protests planned nationwide

http://www.leftcoastrebel.com/2009/04/possible-tax-revolt-in-taxifornia.html
Possible Tax Revolt in Taxifornia?


12 posted on 04/11/2009 9:02:25 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Right on. Power to the people. Productive people.


13 posted on 04/11/2009 9:04:55 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: abb
The rallies aren't meant to be divisive or partisan

yeah... I wonder how many of those obnoxious Cinco De Mayo rallies last year by the illegal immigrants were denied for not having the "right" permits...

14 posted on 04/11/2009 9:05:20 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: abb
Obstructing the rights of free people to non violent protest is an act of violation of our first amendment rights. This might be the beginning of the revolution. It is coming and by the sick liberal RATS pushing will be the cause of a civil war yet. Majority of Americans have just about had it.
15 posted on 04/11/2009 9:06:30 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: abb

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!


16 posted on 04/11/2009 9:08:41 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Tell those assclowns to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There’s your permit.


17 posted on 04/11/2009 9:08:55 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: abb

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/tax-day-tea-party-planned-to-protest-government-spending-78505.html
Tax Day Tea Party planned to protest government spending

http://www.indystar.com/article/20090411/COMMUNITIES/90411003
Lafayette tea party? Not so fast, IDEM warns

http://www.leadercall.com/local/local_story_100230100.html
Tax Day protests in Mississippi Wednesday

http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2009/04/gop_tax_protest_in_flemington.html
GOP Tax Protest In Flemington

http://www.emporiagazette.com/news/2009/apr/11/taxpayer_tea_party/
Taxpayer Tea Party

http://www.paysonroundup.com/news/2009/apr/11/residents_hold_tea_party_protest_thursday/
Residents to hold ‘tea party’ protest Thursday

http://www.examiner.com/x-7422-Cobb-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m4d10-Huge-crowd-expected-for-Atlanta-Taxpayer-Tea-Party-more-speakers-announced
Huge crowd expected for Atlanta Taxpayer Tea Party, more speakers announced

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/article/20090411/NEWS01/90411002
Conservatives plan TEA Party for Wednesday


18 posted on 04/11/2009 9:09:43 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
It occurs to me that most taxpayers work on Wedensday, so the turnout at these events will be lower than it would have been if April 15 was a Saturday or Sunday.

If wearing red on Friday is supposed to indicate support of American troops, what symbolic gesture should taxpayers who still have jobs use to indicate support of the Tea Parties?

19 posted on 04/11/2009 9:15:23 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: abb

Some Saudi kings need to be bowed to. If you have a small government, you need small people to run it.


20 posted on 04/11/2009 9:17:31 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: abb

http://www.meadvilletribune.com/local/local_story_100225433.html
French Creek to get taste of tax-protest TEA leaves

http://www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_12122291
‘Tea Party’ protest set for tax day

http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20090411/NEWS06/90410040
Tax protest group plans bus trip to Indy tea party

http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20090411/OPINION03/904110310
Join us at the tea party

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090411/NEWS01/904110326/1006
Tax Day ‘tea party’ to protest economy set at Dutchess Stadium

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/04/10/article/tax_day_tea_party_captures_triad_s_interest
Tax Day Tea Party captures Triad’s interest

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090410/NEWS/904119991/1134?Title=Tax-Protesters-to-Rally-Wednesday
[lakeland ]
Tax Protesters to Rally Wednesday

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=6755824
Fresno Tea Party

http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2009/04/10/opinion/letters/letter2.txt
Please join us for ‘Tax Day Tea Party’

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1239422718272120.xml&coll=3
Tax day tea parties planned in Lehigh Valley, northwest New Jersey to protest growing government spending

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/apr/11/republicans_plan_antitax_tea_party/
Republicans plan anti-tax ‘tea party’

http://www.esthervilledailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/503145.html?nav=5003
Taxation Tea Party Day Is Wednesday

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=10167047&nav=menu188_2
Protestors plan to relive history at tax rally


21 posted on 04/11/2009 9:18:35 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Here is the permit...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


22 posted on 04/11/2009 9:23:20 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: rovenstinez
That FIRST Tea Party for sure didn’t have any permit.

I can see it now.... "Dear King George, We colonists would like to have a tea party to protest your unfair taxing without representation. Would you give us permission, pretty please?"

Signed,

Future Founding Fathers and Patriots

23 posted on 04/11/2009 9:23:40 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: raptor29

Yes.

It just really pi$$es me off that people that believe in the rule of law are told to get permits while the anarchists, commies and socialists that regularly trash our constitution, destroy our property and would enslave us all to the state don’t need, want or get permits.


24 posted on 04/11/2009 9:27:52 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: abb

Alderman Notte needs some talkin’ to about freedom and liberty. Maybe we could have ACORN arrange a bus tour protest of his home...

William Notte
52 Chestnut Avenue
Rutland, VT

willnotte@gmail.com
779-6369


25 posted on 04/11/2009 9:30:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: abb

http://thurbersthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/04/toledo-tax-day-tea-party-is-not-gop.html
Toledo Tax Day Tea Party is not a GOP function

http://tertiumquids.blogspot.com/2009/04/williamsburg-tea-party-today-even-more.html
Williamsburg Tea Party Today, Even More on the 15th

http://www.fultonteaparty.com/2009/04/new-flyer-available-good-people-at.html
Fulton County Tax Day Tea Party

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/167/story/785830.html
UC Merced GOP group heads tea party

http://adap2k.blogspot.com/2009/04/columbus-tea-party.html
Columbus Tea Party

http://www.masslpa.org/node/385
Greater Lowell Tax Day Tea Party

http://steubenvilleteaparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/downsize-dc-explains-current-financial.html
Steubenville Tea Party

http://teapartymn.com/2009/04/11/tea-d-off-but-still-laughing/
Tea-d Off But Still Laughing!

http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/2009/04/bus-to-san-antonio-tea-party-from-new.html
Bus to San Antonio Tea Party from New Braunfels

http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/42831152.html
Final Preparations Under Way For Elkhart County Tax “Tea Party”

http://www.thecourier.com/Issues/2009/Apr/11/ar_news_041109_story2.asp?d=041109_story2,2009,Apr,11&c=n
‘TEA party’ in Findlay on tax day

http://shotsonthehouse.com/?p=1636
John Kasich to Speak At Columbus Tea Party

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=10167047
Protestors plan to relive history at tax rally

http://www.logipundit.com/2009/04/acadiana-tea-party.html
Acadiana Tea Party

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/article/17323/
Gainesville protest to coincide with nationwide Tax Day Tea Parties

http://pasadenasubrosa.typepad.com/pasadena_sub_rosa/2009/04/reminder-pasadena-tea-party-tomorrow-saturday-city-hall.html
REMINDER: PASADENA TEA PARTY TOMORROW SATURDAY - CITY HALL


26 posted on 04/11/2009 9:38:48 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What is especially disgraceful is that the attorneys on our side are unwilling to make this type of case, with such an obvious double standard being applied in virtually all endeavors in America. We have no attorneys with any guts. And in the few instances when we mount a challenge, our side backs down at the first setback, the first resistance, the first negative media portrayal. We really need to hit the streets.


27 posted on 04/11/2009 9:43:50 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Oldpuppymax
Yes, unbelievable.

"Vere are your papers?!!"

28 posted on 04/11/2009 9:49:21 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: raptor29

“Our Side” is forever lost. Conservatives have lost and this country will never recover. Get used to it.


29 posted on 04/11/2009 9:50:08 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Drango

“Here is the permit...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

THAT’S what I’m talkin’ ‘bout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 04/11/2009 9:52:43 AM PDT by jamndad5 ("I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.")
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To: abb

Original Tea party didnt ask permission. Its time to start pushing them, if they want to start making mass arrests for protesting without a permit, thats fine, it will fuel the mass sit in at the jails! The masters are *way overdue* for a good solid scare.


31 posted on 04/11/2009 9:56:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: abb

http://www.manlyrash.com/blog/pot-calls-the-kettle-blackagain
Pot Calls the Kettle Black…Again

http://ochtaxrevolt.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/orange-county-tea-party-april-15th-530-until-630/
Orange County (North Carolina) Tea Party — April 15th, 5:30 until 6:30

http://www.jasetaro.com/blog/2009/04/11/news-of-the-rebellion-greenwich-tea-party/
News of the Rebellion: Greenwich Tea Party


32 posted on 04/11/2009 9:57:46 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Ethan Allen and Seth Warner would have told the ‘aldermen’ just wear to shove their permit...


33 posted on 04/11/2009 9:59:36 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: abb

Permit? Who cares, I held the first ever largest tea party and did not get a permit.
We have the RIGHT to peacefully assemble under the Constitution. Permit? i don’t think so.


34 posted on 04/11/2009 10:02:18 AM PDT by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: raptor29

The difficulty, of course, is taking vacation days to hit the streets. I’m sure everybody going to the Tax Day Tea Parties is taking a vacation day. I know I am.

The parasites, anarchists, professional slackers and welfare queens don’t need to take precious vacation days.


35 posted on 04/11/2009 10:02:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: abb
The very act of requiring a "permit" to protest and out-of-control government is the prime example of that government control.

IF they choose to not have the Tea Party due to the lack of a permit, then the liberals win. They will find it as easy to defeat America on that front as they are finding how easy it is for commiebama to do it through killing the economy.

For generations to come, tyrants who aspire to the presidency will be supercharged on how easy it was for commiebama to take down America, and the citizens just sat on their collective asses and did nothing about it.

The forefathers braved war, starvation, and tyranny to establish this great nation, and we're not even willing to brave a misdemeanor for not having a permit?

All of the civil rights demonstrations didn't have permits, especially when they all discovered the dire need for new color TV sets and it turned into riots. It's easy to get people to engage in civil disobedience ifyou offer them a new TV free of charge.

Of course, being Vermont it doesn't surprise me much, but the council is hiding behind the same liberal cowardice that evoked silence from Washington after NK's missile launch the other day.

The very act of going ahead with the protest will just underline the purpose for it, and, it could even make the news if it gets rowdy enough.

Commiebama told his flying monkey's in ACORN to "get in their face" (while he hid in the campaign bus), so I'm guessing that's what they understand too...so protest on, and get in the faces of those who try to block free speech, expression, and assembly.

It's time for rights to work both ways again.
36 posted on 04/11/2009 10:09:10 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity (bailout) we receive...think about it.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Here in Walnut Creek, CA it’s essentially after 4:00pm which will allow some to not miss a lot of work. Some other events are at noon.


37 posted on 04/11/2009 10:10:15 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The Mayor

There’s an original copy of our “permit” on file in the National Archives. I’ve seen it...

http://www.archives.gov/historical-docs/document.html?doc=4&title.raw=Bill%20of%20Rights


38 posted on 04/11/2009 10:10:43 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: ex91B10

“Our Side is forever lost.”

Depends. This thing could turn around quickly if we do the right thing over the next couple years. Whether we have the guts to do the right thing (and it ain’t really a ‘within the system’ remedy), remains to be seen. The commies are a very thin paper lion. Very thin. They could be run out of here in a very short period of time, should we decide to make it happen. We’ll see.


39 posted on 04/11/2009 10:22:16 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: abb
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press;
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
40 posted on 04/11/2009 10:23:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
You are half right
Congress shall make no law
Nothing in the Constitution prevents state and local governments from regulation assembly
Read the 10th amendment.

It's the hipocracy of the LOCAL government that decides
that certain groups can protest and not others
41 posted on 04/11/2009 10:29:37 AM PDT by acsrp38 (arrogant and derisive and proud of it)
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To: acsrp38
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

I'm no lawyer or scholar but my understanding is that since the Constitution declares the right to peaceful assembly, no state can write a law restricting that right.
Perhaps I'm just too naive .... and freedom loving.
42 posted on 04/11/2009 10:44:38 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: abb
VERMONT
43 posted on 04/11/2009 10:46:10 AM PDT by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: oh8eleven

I am not saying that the state or local government can trump the Constitution. But the orignal intent of the founders was that the Constitution limited the federal government.

The government also has the responsibility to “secure domestic tranquility”. As in protect from violence by a mob.

The states and cities cannot trump the Constitution, but they can regulate. They can require permits. hold the organization responsible for damage or injury, they can require you to provide security.

I think in the case here we are talking about the local government hypocrasy and prejudice.

We are agreeing with the premise but for different reasons.

By the way, do you think you can hold a protest on private property?? Can I restrict your right to speech, assembly, or prevent you from practicing your religion in my front yard???


44 posted on 04/11/2009 11:37:12 AM PDT by acsrp38 (arrogant and derisive and proud of it)
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To: abb

Don’t even ask for a permit. JUST DO IT!


45 posted on 04/11/2009 11:38:47 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: abb
Why didn't you hear, president obambi has CANCELLED Freedom.

46 posted on 04/11/2009 11:48:41 AM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: abb
bye bye Freedom, bye bye. Uncle Sam has declared war on Freedom!

47 posted on 04/11/2009 11:51:52 AM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: timestax
Washington D.C. has canceled Freedom until further notice!

48 posted on 04/11/2009 12:30:17 PM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: acsrp38
By the way, do you think you can hold a protest on private property??
No. But then again, the Supreme Court ruled there is no more private property vis-à-vis eminent domain.
49 posted on 04/11/2009 12:32:45 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s true


50 posted on 04/11/2009 1:06:20 PM PDT by acsrp38 (arrogant and derisive and proud of it)
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