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Tea Party movement aims to inspire revolution (Spew-worthy)
The San Francisco Examiner ^ | April 9, 2009 | Wyatt Shev

Posted on 04/11/2009 8:57:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

April 15th.

Write that date down; people - it could very well mark the beginning of the end. With the notoriously conservative Tea Party movement gaining steam, is it time to take the ‘United’ out of ‘United States’?

An off-the-cuff and seemingly harmless comment from CNBC drone Rick Santelli- who called for a Chicago ‘Tea Party’ in response to Obama’s handling of the worsening economic situation- has now developed into a full-blown national movement.

On April 15th, hundreds of thousands of PO’d red meat eatin’ Americans will converge on the streets to protest the Obama administration’s policies and platforms. Over 360 cities nationwide have been confirmed as protest staging points, and conservative luminaries like Newt Gingrich and Sean ‘Rough Rider’ Hannity will lend their considerable girth and celebrity to ensure a sense of bloated spectacle.

The Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party-people consider themselves a coherent and diverse network of Americans from every conceivable walk of life. They are cultural warriors fighting against the tax-happy, spend-happy ways of the evil Obama cabal, real American patriots, and staunch defenders against the creeping evils of Socialism.

In reality, their ‘movement’ is incredibly divisive, a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama’s calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need. Their arguments have the potential to divide the country along titanic lines not seen since the bloody days of the Civil War.

Think I’m exaggerating here? The Tea Party movement is an incredibly dangerous concept, fuelled by the usual gushes of sycophantic support from the conservative news media (here’s looking at you, Fox). Consider a recent poll posted on Sean Hannity’s website, asking his loyal followers if they thought America was ripe for ‘revolution’. Or perhaps you’ve heard some of the vitriolic treasonous crap spewing forth from the mouth of Fox’s resident white-haired lunatic, He Who Shall Go Unnamed. You can tune in to his show practically any day of the week for an (increasingly) thinly veiled call to arms against the President and his evil liberal cronies.

The Tea Party Movement is basically a flag for Republicans disenfranchised by last year’s election results to rally behind. Give it up, guys. You lost fair and square. Obama and his policies have the mandate of the people- unlike a certain Bush I could mention.

If the country continues down this dark path, a second Civil War might not just be a cool idea for a sci-fi novel anymore. Can you imagine the potential for chaos if some of these ‘protesters’ decide to exercise the Second Amendment and bring their weapons to these rallies? There’s a thin line between peaceful protest and bloodthirsty patriotic fervor, especially if those protesting are used to being on the side of the mighty status quo.

I hope April 15th comes and goes without major incident. And I hope the protesters fail in their mission to bring their message to a national audience. It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate.

President Obama was elected democratically, according to the doctrines set forth by the Founding Fathers. The Tea Party movement represents a real danger to the tenets of democracy Americans have embraced for centuries.

There are now only 1351 days left until the End of the World.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
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So now that conservatives, libertarians, independents and businesspeople are protesting, it's "divisive" is it?
1 posted on 04/11/2009 8:57:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the same poeple who loved too scream “Bush Hitler” & “Chimpy Hitler.”

They are like small children having a temper tantrum with the reasoning ability of a slug.


2 posted on 04/11/2009 9:01:40 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unbiased reporting from San Francisco leftist media.

And they seemed puzzled that they crap sandwich newspaper has no readership.


3 posted on 04/11/2009 9:02:04 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Methinks he doth protest too much.


4 posted on 04/11/2009 9:02:30 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
in sharp contrast to Obama’s calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need

What absolute Bravo Sierra. For the life of me I can't see how these little fascists keep a straight face while writing such drivel and lies.

Obama has been the most devicive President in history. He has locked out, blocked out, and thrwarted all form of debate and difference in his headlong run to marxism.

Now when people protest that, it is who are devicive? Bunk!

Responses like this tell me that the TEA movement is spot on target and the little marxists fear it.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES

OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

5 posted on 04/11/2009 9:02:47 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe this is the democrat party media indirectly warning us that they have infiltrated their ACORN/MoveOn thugs to incite racist and violent threats at the Tea Party for MSNBC/CNN/CBS fake reports and phony phot-ops.


6 posted on 04/11/2009 9:05:57 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the country continues down this dark path, a second Civil War might not just be a cool idea for a sci-fi novel anymore. Can you imagine the potential for chaos if some of these ‘protesters’ decide to exercise the Second Amendment and bring their weapons to these rallies?

He says this as if this would be a bad thing.

7 posted on 04/11/2009 9:06:12 PM PDT by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Can you imagine the potential for chaos if some of these ‘protesters’ decide to exercise the Second Amendment and bring their weapons to these rallies?”

Count on it, nancy-boy (the author of that article). Open carry is legal and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are all the ‘permit’ I need. And I won’t be alone. If you come to our little get-together here in CDA, you’d best bring another change of Depends.

Glock Mod 20 in a shoulder holster. Look for me - I’ll be the one with a Gadsden flag attached to a staff.


8 posted on 04/11/2009 9:07:21 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone care to wager that what has most got this wanker shaking in his boots that he might be targeted by one of his own side’s agent provocateurs?

He KNOWS his loons are looney, and so he has every reason to be afraid for his safety.


9 posted on 04/11/2009 9:09:17 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Noumenon
Most of us wouldn't protest except for the fact that this administration is moving us toward Fascism. Those of us who read history and did well in school know the end result.
I will be protesting in Albany NY because I took the oath to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States!
10 posted on 04/11/2009 9:13:00 PM PDT by voveo
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To: Jeff Head

It’s been very interesting, Jeff. Lately, I’ve started conversations with complete strangers by saying, April 15th. 3:00 PM. and they’ve finished the sentence by saying, “Tea Party!”

Word’s out. The MSM isn’t going to be able to cover this up. So they’re settling for demonizing us instead. Right out of the Alinsky playbook. Thank God people are staring to wake up. I hope and pray that it is not too late. For America to survive as a free society, that is.

Unfortunately, it is too late for a peaceable path back to the principles of the Founders, though.

Regards - Ward


11 posted on 04/11/2009 9:14:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 04/11/2009 9:15:21 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, I enjoyed reading this. I just hope some of the fear this dim bulb expresses is borne out. I hope his fears are felt by a lot of these people.

Of course some of his fears are whiny and irrational. Like all of us carrying our guns to these rallies and shooting up Dodge.

And his efforts to enshrine BO’s legitimacy ring hollow. Elected by the media, sans proof of birth hardly qualifies as “elected democratically, according to the doctrines set forth by the Founding Fathers”. I’ve noticed of late more and more lefty pundits are beating the “BO is legit” drum. A little too much. I think the BC issue is gnawing away at them a little. Not that I think we have a real chance of turning him out on that, even though I believe he is not legally the Pres.


13 posted on 04/11/2009 9:16:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: voveo

Thank you for your service. You’ll be called upon soon to honor that oath. For those who can hear it, there is a distant thunder. And it’s coming closer.


14 posted on 04/11/2009 9:16:05 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actions will ALWAYS speak louder than words! Successful actions by the majority of non-leftists will result in political change. Just words by the majority of non-leftists will only keep the leftists in control longer. Also, the majority of VOTERS need plenty of reasons to seriously and willingly vote against all leftists, at each and every political level, and for the long-term, instead of just for the short-term! At the same time, leftists, worldwide, are seriously doing everything that they can do to suppress any to all non-leftist success (e.g. adding illegal immigrants and almost all criminals as additional leftist voters and attempting to put an end to the entire non-leftist media, among a finite number of other pro-leftist actions that continue to be done all over the world).


15 posted on 04/11/2009 9:17:14 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: voveo; gonzo; freekitty; oswegodeee; Piquaboy; Free ThinkerNY; Clintonfatigued; stockpirate; ...

Tea parties must be coupled with a drive to vote all the incumbents out of office in 2010 and 2012. Send the US Congressional elitists a message that we are not their serfs or their peons and they are not Royalty.


16 posted on 04/11/2009 9:18:42 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate.
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Prejudice? Hate?

Anyone who disagrees with a Marxist is a “racist” and a “hater”.

Geeze! How about a little originality? My senior year high school teacher would have circled that with a great big red: TRITE!

17 posted on 04/11/2009 9:18:46 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Noumenon
Unfortunately, it is too late for a peaceable path back to the principles of the Founders,

Regretfully, I fear that to be the case. Even more, though, I fear that should it truly become necessary, the will of the people is not sufficient to go the distance.

18 posted on 04/11/2009 9:19:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate."

You wish.

19 posted on 04/11/2009 9:19:50 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Tea Party movement represents a real danger to the tenets of democracy Americans have embraced for centuries.
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How about abiding by the Constitution that Americans once embraced?


20 posted on 04/11/2009 9:20:29 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ll be there in Fresno Wednesday at the SaveMart Center! Yahoo!!

http://www.centralvalleytalk.com


21 posted on 04/11/2009 9:22:52 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a moonbat!


22 posted on 04/11/2009 9:23:01 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't fear 15 April 2009, I'm embracing it.

We have decided it's time to take the country back.

23 posted on 04/11/2009 9:23:42 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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The only problem is that it will probably get co-opted.


24 posted on 04/11/2009 9:27:11 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wyatt Shev, from Sydney, Australia. His bio lists him as an unabashed atheist.

25 posted on 04/11/2009 9:27:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

that’s right, if wyatt’s side could just rid us of a few pesky amendmends in that archaic ‘ol Constitution just think how perfect things would be...


26 posted on 04/11/2009 9:28:38 PM PDT by mynameisjohngalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate.

Did you intentionally leave out homophobic or is that included in hate? Prejudice is just a 9 letter word for racist of course.

27 posted on 04/11/2009 9:29:35 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I kinda like the idea that it scares them.

Their fear is not unwarranted.

28 posted on 04/11/2009 9:30:03 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THIS is my revolution: 40 seats to Take Back the House in 2010.

40 Seats to Take Back the House.

My personal revolution: ONE.


29 posted on 04/11/2009 9:30:16 PM PDT by ziravan (FReeper for Congress: www.TimothyDelasandro.com)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Maybe this is the democrat party media indirectly warning us that they have infiltrated their ACORN/MoveOn thugs to incite racist and violent threats at the Tea Party for MSNBC/CNN/CBS fake reports and phony phot-ops.

Nope, it is the MSM's(the media arm of the Demwit party)attempt to make us stop the tea parties by making us feel "unpatriotic" for having these protests. It is fine to protest, and patriotic also, if you are a left wing libtard, but if you are conservative you aren't allowed.

Regardless of whether Bozo was elected legally or not, and I don't think he was, we are allowed, under the constitution, to protest his, and the legislature's,actions.

Taking this guy's premise as gospel, then Bush should never have had one protest in his 8 years of office because he won according to the tenets of the constitution, right?

I don't recall him being protest free.

The more these people scream about the tea parties the bigger they should get.

The MSM didn't mention them at all at first hoping they would die out, now they are in a panic mode that they are gaining so much steam.

30 posted on 04/11/2009 9:31:00 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Noumenon

Actually, you’d be wise to check with Leo’s before carrying your “little friend” with you. Here in Alabama even with a permit you cannot take your ‘companion’ to any outside gathering like a parade / potest.

Would hate to hear you got locked up for it.


31 posted on 04/11/2009 9:34:57 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Earthdweller
"It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate."

You wish.

But we were told for the past 8 years that dissent was patriotic. The author of the article is such a hypocrite.

32 posted on 04/11/2009 9:38:23 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree


34 posted on 04/11/2009 9:40:41 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Not that I think we have a real chance of turning him out on that, even though I believe he is not legally the Pres.
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Agitation about his natural birth ( or even citizenship) status has Saul Alinsky value.

The birth issue keeps pressure on Obama. It is a distraction for him. It burns up some of his money (even if that money comes from donations. And...It adds to his aura of incompetence and illegitimacy.

But...I think you are right. It likely will not get anywhere.

36 posted on 04/11/2009 9:44:02 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This coming from an Australian atheist! What the hell does he know?!
37 posted on 04/11/2009 9:47:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had the same thoughts. It is only divisive if conservatives object to liberal laws and taxes.


38 posted on 04/11/2009 9:48:51 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Shadowstrike
Here in Alabama even with a permit you cannot take your ‘companion’ to any outside gathering like a parade / potest.

What? tell me you're kidding

39 posted on 04/11/2009 9:49:18 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply can not be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

Nope. am dead serious.


40 posted on 04/11/2009 9:56:49 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As far as I’m concerned, these Tea Parties are a shot across the bow of Socialism.

After these rallies, we need to meet again to decide exactly which actions this Administration will be taking that will trigger our own Ft. Sumpter.

Will it be Amnesty? Implementation of Socialized Medicine? Nationalization of banks? Repeal of 2nd amendment? Cap & trade doubling our energy costs?

All of these and so much more are on Øbama’s agenda.

The time is coming soon when we will need to draw a line.

This is real, Americans. Brace yourselves.


41 posted on 04/11/2009 9:58:32 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Shadowstrike

Wow, that wins the prize as the silliest restriction that I’ve heard of yet.


42 posted on 04/11/2009 10:02:46 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply can not be tyrannized)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The replies were worth reading. Especially one from Kevin:

“So, what you’re telling us is that you’re not intelligent enough to extract our goals, hopes, and desires from the prose we’ve been writing in response to your diatribe? You require a list, else you will not concede that our goals have been thoroughly made public? Alright...

1) We want our representatives to know that, contrary to their own desires, we do NOT want increased government involvement in our lives. We do not buy the party line (either party) that we’re in such dire times that the gov’t simply must intervene. We recognize our history, and we know that the gross inefficiencies of government never bring prosperity, never leave us better than where we began.

2) We want the Democrats to hear from mainstream America, to understand what we ACTUALLY want, not what their party leadership has told them. We want to remind them that America had two very similar, very Big Gov’t candidates for President in 2008. Our selection of either one of them was not meant as a blank check for their policies.

3) We’d like to remind the Republicans that they’re supposed to be the party of conservatism, which means individual liberty, individual responsibility, limited Government, and free markets. Their behavior recently, especially over the last 8 years, has been a deep blow to conservatism. While claiming the label, they’ve demonstrated entirely opposite motivations.

3) We want our fellow citizens, frustrated and yelling at their TV’s and newspapers, to know that they’re not alone. There are a lot of us that feel this way, far outnumbering any showing the left has been able to produce, but libertarians and (true) conservatives are notorious for keeping out of the national spotlight because they simply desire to live their lives however they see fit.

To quote a national organizer’s blog, “[We’re] under no delusion that we’re going to change the world on April 15th. To assume we believe such would be borderline absurd.” It’s just a step in the right direction, and a step that must be undeniably recognized. At first we were worried that the press wouldn’t pick up our story. Now we’re having to deal with folks like you intentionally obfuscating our message and the purpose of the tea parties. To me, articles like yours are proof that we’re having an impact, and so for that, I thank you.

What will happen at the Tea Parties? Violence? No... that’s a lefty phenomenon. We’re not anti-Government, you see. We’re anti-Big Government. On Wednesday “we the people will shake hands, network, share ideas, discuss our frustrations, let some steam out, and begin to develop new coalitions and citizen groups. April 15th will be Historic in nature not because we instantly changed the world, but because we set in motion a machine that will counter out of control Government and eventually put it back in the hands of the people.”


43 posted on 04/11/2009 10:03:36 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: voteNRA

Yeah, it is pretty silly.

They give us the right to excercise our Right, and then give you a list of places that you’ll get locked up for carrying.

It’ll make you sick sometimes.


44 posted on 04/11/2009 10:06:05 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: voteNRA

excercise = exercise.

Gotta sleep now obviously.


45 posted on 04/11/2009 10:07:23 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left wing communists want to shut up the true Patriots and take away our most important right, the Freedom of Speech.


46 posted on 04/11/2009 10:10:24 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Shadowstrike
I just read through that list and there's an entire section, several paragraphs long dealing with "demonstrations". I guess they really mean it!

On the bright side, at least they appear to allow you to carry at a rest area :)

47 posted on 04/11/2009 10:13:50 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply can not be tyrannized)
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To: Shadowstrike

I’m with you 100%. If anyone gets disarmed it is our civil servants first. Their laws do not change right and wrong any more than Hitler’s and Stalin’s which is what this is starting to look like.


48 posted on 04/11/2009 10:15:37 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...hundreds of thousands of PO’d red meat eatin’ Americans will converge on the streets...”

More beef tenderloin, please. I love the stuff!

“... a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama’s calls for bipartisanship...”

What bipartisanship? Have we seen any around lately? What’s even more interesting is this line that appears later in the article which goes so far as to conceed the point that there isn’t any and won’t ever be any...

“Give it up, guys. You lost fair and square. Obama and his policies have the mandate of the people- unlike a certain Bush I could mention.”

Of course the author forgets to mention that Bush won by almost as much as Obama did in 2004. But did we get what we wanted? Were we divisive then? I surely can’t think of anything more divisive than their “My way or the highway” attitude. He is supposed to be governing everyone, not just the people who voted for him. Need they be reminded that they do so with the consent of the governed, and when 46% voted for a moderate, you’d think they’d get the idea that those same 46% of the electorate would be quite offended over a far-left agenda; and frankly strong dissent should be no real surprise.

I didn’t like Bill Clinton and I disagreed with him on many things, but he did not scare the living crap out of me and leave me crying in my beer over what this country could become like Obama does. This dispicable pinko wannabe dictator makes Bill Clinton look almost like a saint. I’d much rather have him back than have to suffer through watching the freedoms that so many real patriots and heros fought and gave their lives for be pissed away in the blink of an eye. Just the thought of this low life with the chesshire cat grin being in the position he is makes me feel ill.

I digress. This article shows the total and complete miscalculation regarding the degree of reverence we hold our founding principles, our constitution, and freedoms endowed by our creator; ideas that have been won with blood, that they think could be so handily disposed of in the course of one election. Those frozen, starving, bootless soldiers on the banks of the Patomic, a ragtag army facing the well oiled war machine of the day, will not so easily be forgotten. These Tea Parties are for them and those like them who are yet to be.


49 posted on 04/11/2009 10:23:03 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: FormerACLUmember

The guy (?) who wrote this article has a paper asshole.


50 posted on 04/11/2009 10:23:47 PM PDT by pankot
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