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'GIVE' creating youth brigades?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 12, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/12/2009 4:36:12 AM PDT by Man50D

Supporters of an Americorps expansion plan pending in Congress laud its efforts to "leverage" federal dollars to boost state, local and other resources to "address national and local challenges," while critics say its fine print secretly would create an "Obama-styled army of community organizers modeled after Saul Alinsky's 'Peoples Organizations.'" So which is it?

In an era in which Congress can approve thousands of pages of legislation spending hundreds of billions of dollars without reading the proposal, there seems to be no definitive answer on what some of the vague language of H.R. 1388 means.

But there is enough in the "GIVE Act," now awaiting a conference committee in Congress after being approved by both the U.S. House and Senate, to cause critics to shiver.

For example, it certainly imposes a requirement for public service on some people, even though its original much-feared study on mandatory service for all was moved to another bill during congressional debate.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; giveact
For example, it states those in an "approved national service position" may not try to influence legislation, engage in protests or petitions, take positions on union organizing, engage in partisan political activities, or, among other issues, be "engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of proselytization."

Don't let Congress critters get away with this one folks! Call, email and fax if you haven't already. Toll free Capital switchboard numbers

800-762-0498

877-762-8762
1 posted on 04/12/2009 4:36:12 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
"Supporters of an Americorps expansion plan pending in Congress laud its efforts to "leverage" federal dollars to boost state, local and other resources to "address national and local challenges," while critics say its fine print secretly would create an "Obama-styled army of community organizers modeled after Saul Alinsky's 'Peoples Organizations.'" So which is it?"

Hitler also had youth organizers...called his; "Youth Army!"

2 posted on 04/12/2009 4:43:07 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Man50D

While I don’t support this bill in any manner, the part you note in your post I totally agree with.

I don’t want one group of Christians trying to convert others to their beliefs on the taxpayers dime.


3 posted on 04/12/2009 4:44:23 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George & I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: Man50D

Or people using taxpayer dollars to protest or support a bill.

This law however will be used to re-educate our youth in to good little fascists.

I see Christain youths being forced to work in abortion clinics, being re-educated against their Christain beliefs.

And the requirement for ALL to serve is hidden in a second bill.

I am too old to be re-educated and way too stupid.

I will not go quitely into this long dark night.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 4:50:07 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George & I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: stockpirate
I don’t want one group of Christians trying to convert others to their beliefs on the taxpayers dime.

You miss the point of this bill. It is meant to be so broad and encompassing as to stifle dissent of the people against socialism. It is anathema not only to the first amendment but in general to what our founding fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution.
5 posted on 04/12/2009 4:51:21 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

No, I do understand the purpose and full meaning and intent of this bill.

We are at the final stages of the course our nation is on. If we succumb it will mean years of darkness and slavery for not just America buy the world.

We stand at the “Hot Gates” just like the 300, will we stand and fight for freedom or go quitely into this long dark night is the question?

The world my friend is watching what we do!

I and my family choose freedom.


6 posted on 04/12/2009 4:57:44 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George & I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: Man50D

Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..’ ~ Thomas Jefferson


7 posted on 04/12/2009 5:00:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George & I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: Man50D

I want my kids to have the same exemptions and choices as children of the elite, if this comes to pass.

This echoes why my and DH’s families left Germany in the late 1800s — they did not want their children to serve the Kaiser.


8 posted on 04/12/2009 5:02:09 AM PDT by Cloverfarm
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To: Man50D

Job one for this group will be to assist ACORN in conducting its phony census taking. Note the prohibition on engaging in politics would also prevent members from protesting what they are ordered to do. This group is Obama’s Red Guard who will lead his cultural revolution.


9 posted on 04/12/2009 5:08:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: The Great RJ

Ding, ding, ding. we have a winner.

Behold the Hitler Youth Corps.

Our nation will be run by fascists, The Nation of Islam will comprise his National Security Force along with ACORN.

Calling the fascists in congress will not stop this bill.

“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force to preserve their liberty deserves the tyrants that rule them” SP

Just like Jesus had to make a whip and in his most violent act recorded in the Bible he over threw the tables in the temple and whipped the money changers. We must do the same here in God’s heavenly church on earth.


10 posted on 04/12/2009 5:42:18 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George & I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: LucyT

Everything is just pedal to the metal, and not enough Rs or decent ones to stop anything.


11 posted on 04/12/2009 8:02:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: The Great RJ
This group is Obama?s Red Guard who will lead his cultural revolution

They will use troubled young adults that find themselves in trouble with the law and make this youth brigade a mandated punishment to expand their Red Army. The worst of the worst will be members. *Obama’s Youth Brigade*

12 posted on 04/13/2009 4:15:22 AM PDT by katiekins1 (I Bow to No One)
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To: Man50D

Should be called ‘America’s Brown Shirt Act of 2009’.


13 posted on 04/13/2009 4:34:36 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatch)
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To: stockpirate
What a person does in their free time is of no concern or consequence to the federal government unless it is illegal. They are using a mandatory voluntary prgrogram to squash free speech and freedom of religion in one fell swooth.

These fascists are interested in one thing only and that is the fundamental transformation of this nation away from the constitutional republic it is, founded on unalienable rights and liberties.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

NOW WE KNOW WHAT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOES

OBAMA, THE STOCK MARKET, AND ENERGY

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

14 posted on 04/13/2009 4:54:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Hey Jeff, thanks for the info, you are preaching to the choir here.

It is voluntary, I volunteer you to serve, that is how it works.


15 posted on 04/13/2009 6:49:31 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George and I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: LucyT; null and void

Ping to number 14


16 posted on 04/13/2009 8:42:31 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George and I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: stockpirate
I don’t want one group of Christians trying to convert others to their beliefs on the taxpayers dime.

Try reading closer. It doesn't say anything about while on the taxpayer's dime.

17 posted on 04/13/2009 8:49:09 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Man50D
We will see the first of the Brown Short machinations in the run up to the 2010 elections, and after that, they will come on like gang busters.

Push will come to shove in the streets after the Brown Shorts begin their neighborhood watch program under the guise of "envirinmental cleanuo" and " community organizing."

Say good bye to your privacy and freedom of speech. Any anti Obama signage will be treated as insurrection, with a hot line from your local " GIVE" office straight to Home;and Security and the SS.

Will people take it in their communities. How Americans react to the comong fake census will tell the tale.

18 posted on 04/13/2009 5:06:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: Candor7
Will people take it in their communities. How Americans react to the comong fake census will tell the tale.

The tea parties are proof people are already fighting back.
19 posted on 04/13/2009 5:13:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
THe TPs are a good start, although the MSM is quick to castigate Rush as fringe , and nutty , as well as the rest of us who are anti-Obama. But the press aoids the issues we have raised like the plague, because they ARE cogent issues.

But that tide will turn. Zero is bound to show an ugly side, and it will come out, despite his staff's spin efforts to mold his image. ( He didn't bow, he just tripped etc.)Its a waiting game we will win as we organize to fight this fascist , under handed, back door legislation, non president.

Zero is all hat and no cattle. A recipe for disaster if there ever was one. Soon his A$$ will be between a rock and a hard place, and America will see the true Zero.

20 posted on 04/13/2009 5:20:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: Candor7

You are more confident than I, that the dumbed down masses will come around.


21 posted on 04/13/2009 8:06:05 PM PDT by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: Man50D

I see the seeds of a new civil war being planted in all this.


22 posted on 04/14/2009 5:05:39 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: stockpirate

Please see post number 22. The fruits of all this will be an angry, violent backlash.


23 posted on 04/14/2009 5:14:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

We are well past seedlings, it’s more like the powder keg is only awiting the spark that lights the fuse.

Obama the number one firearm salesman in America.

What lights the fuse remains to be seen. My guess is that at some point tax protesters will be fired upon by people in the soon to be revealed National Security Forces.


24 posted on 04/14/2009 6:46:49 AM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George and I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: stockpirate

Also what comes to mind is Iran, when they sent all those kids to the Iraq border with very minimum fire power, and how they got wiped out. But the Iran Army stayed back.


25 posted on 04/14/2009 6:50:13 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: stockpirate

Yep and it is ONLY a matter of time that the first shots of the second civil war will come from what you discribed.


26 posted on 04/14/2009 6:59:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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