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Many Gay Books Banned from Amazon Rankings
Gawker ^ | April 12, 2009 | Ryan Tate

Posted on 04/12/2009 4:02:16 PM PDT by FourPeas

(UPDATED) As if it wasn't hellacious enough working customer support for Amazon.com on Easter, the online book store's reps must now explain why gay romances (and other books) are too "adult" to rank.

Straight romance like Jackie Collins and straight porn like this book of Playboy centerfolds is still ranked on Amazon.

But not the homosexul stuff: Gay romance publisher Mark Probst noticed hundreds of such books lost their rankings over the past two days, including Transgressions, about a 17th century liaison between a cavalry trooper and a farmer's son, and False Colors, about a 19th century naval lieutenant attracted to his commanding officer.

Probst wrote to Amazon through his publisher's account, and was told

In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude "adult" material from appearing in some searches and best seller lists. Since these lists are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.

There is now an full-fledged Twitter shitstorm, naturally, and a new, snarky definition for the term "Amazon Rank," spreading virally. It's hard to imagine the Seattle-based retailer sticking by this controversial policy after naming a gay Brit's novel their "Book of the Year."

On the other hand, Amazon must be happy, on some level, to have finally expanded its customer base beyond the sophisticated techno elites, straight through into the American cultural backwaters where this sort of material is remotely offensive, somehow.

So probably the store will lump anything vaguely sexual, Jackie Collins and Playboy included, into a romance/erotica category, which will also be rank banned. And eventually the site will just throw in the towel and outsource its entire filtering operation to the cultural arbiters at Wal-Mart. Why not?

(Excerpt) Read more at gawker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; gayporn; homoagendaalert; homosexualagenda; nambla; porn; smut; sodomite
News of this has been going on all day on Twitter but it's just starting to hit the news outlets.
1 posted on 04/12/2009 4:02:16 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas

“Gay” romances are nothing more than sadistic perversion.

THINK ABOUT IT!


2 posted on 04/12/2009 4:03:46 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: FourPeas

lol @ book porn.


3 posted on 04/12/2009 4:05:05 PM PDT by exist
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To: FourPeas

A blow for justice.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 4:06:29 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: FourPeas

But the gay romances are still sold on Amazon? they are just not ranked??? (whatever that means)

Is this really a huge problem? If some homo wants to buy a gay erotic novel I am sure he can get it some where else.


5 posted on 04/12/2009 4:07:42 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: FourPeas

Frankly, who cares what they rank? Put the Playboy and other perversion into one catagory and forget it. 90% of the people just don’t have time to worry about stuff like this.


6 posted on 04/12/2009 4:07:56 PM PDT by Birch T. Barlow (Go Mariners! Certain 2009 AL West champions!)
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To: FourPeas

I am truly grateful that there are people out there who are willing to do my thinking for me and make the hard choices of what I should read and not read.

Really, WTF would I do if it weren’t for you diaper sniffers courageously putting yourself daily on the front lines of decency? /sarcasm


7 posted on 04/12/2009 4:10:31 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: nmh
THINK ABOUT IT!

No!

I don't want to and you can't make me!

8 posted on 04/12/2009 4:10:33 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

I understand why you can’t and give you a pass.

;)


9 posted on 04/12/2009 4:12:44 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: escapefromboston

He can get the gay erotic porno whatever from Amazon. It’s just not ranked on their mainstream best seller list.

This is a fabricated controversy for the gay community to claim “discrimination”.


10 posted on 04/12/2009 4:13:30 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: FourPeas

“I didn’t think it was physically possible both this both sucks and blows at the same time”
-Bart Simpson


11 posted on 04/12/2009 4:16:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: FourPeas

Isn’t this ranking based on sales? Perhaps people are not buying gay books. This seems like a stupid thing to complain about...who cares. I have seen threads here from conservatives complaining about this too when the conservative books fall off the chart...perhaps instead of complaining buying a book might be more adventagous. People just love to complain about EVERYTHING.


12 posted on 04/12/2009 4:17:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

No one’s telling anyone what to read and what not to read. Get real.


13 posted on 04/12/2009 4:17:45 PM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This is a fabricated controversy for the gay community to claim “discrimination”.

It seems that way.

14 posted on 04/12/2009 4:19:03 PM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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To: FourPeas
Some Leftist judge recently determined that eharmony had to post inquiries from the Rectal Ricky A$$ Masters.

It may be only a matter of time before Amazon is forced to relent and rate faggot material.

15 posted on 04/12/2009 4:19:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: FourPeas
Kevin &quot;The Kool Aid&quot; Malone Pictures, Images and Photos
16 posted on 04/12/2009 4:22:14 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: FourPeas

“False Colors” has a release date of April 13, 2009 and the perverts are complaining about its “ranking” already?


17 posted on 04/12/2009 4:22:19 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: FourPeas
Don't they get it the Queer books are not selling no one wants to know how two Queers have sex..I think we all know how disgusting they are..Just look at creepy Barney Frank I just get so sick to my stomach when that Queer opens his mouth,knowing where it has been..Fudge packing..
18 posted on 04/12/2009 4:23:58 PM PDT by PLD
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To: FourPeas

They would also be offended by the realistic low rankings too so who cares?


19 posted on 04/12/2009 4:24:44 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: escapefromboston
If some homo wants to buy a gay erotic novel I am sure he can get it some where else.

At a nearby Barnes & Noble, there is an entire gay & lesbian section, yet I have to go somewhere else to find one measly copy of Louis Hunter's "Steamboats on the Western Rivers" (which is a definitive study). Can I file a lawsuit?

Mr. niteowl77

20 posted on 04/12/2009 4:30:29 PM PDT by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: napscoordinator

A cry of discrimination would be if straight porn is sold and gay porn isn’t. both are still sold, just not listed compared to other titles.
And maybe some gay publishers screamed that straight porn ranked way, way too high and couldn’t really be that much more popular. So delisting the ranks was a way of capitulating.


21 posted on 04/12/2009 4:44:04 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: FourPeas
On the other hand, Amazon must be happy, on some level, to have finally expanded its customer base beyond the sophisticated techno elites, straight through into the American cultural backwaters where this sort of material is remotely offensive, somehow.

Ho-hum, another whining faggot.

22 posted on 04/12/2009 4:48:01 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: FourPeas

Just another case of trying to shove their PERVERSION onto the general public! The equations they have made between themselves and the race issues is sickening and should NOT be tolerated.
Maybe if the slaughter of millions of innocent children won’t rile us to act then the forcing of acceptance of a sick, demonic lifestyle will!


23 posted on 04/12/2009 4:48:51 PM PDT by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
[Censored] would I do if it weren’t for you diaper sniffers courageously putting yourself daily on the front lines of decency?

Finally! Someone showing a little appreciation.

24 posted on 04/12/2009 5:00:42 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: FourPeas

*yawn*. Must be a slow news day over at Bay Windows.


25 posted on 04/12/2009 5:06:54 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

My my, you DO spend a lot of time on “gay” threads.


26 posted on 04/12/2009 5:15:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“My my, you DO spend a lot of time on “gay” threads.”

I like to think of them less as gay, and more as Human Rights threads, thank you very much.

BTW Thanks for noticing, cowboy. ;-)


27 posted on 04/12/2009 5:22:52 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: FourPeas
There's a Gay & Lesbian CATEGORY in the main left rail on Amazon's main book page, yielding this:

Gay & Lesbian

Showing 1 - 12 of 25,285 Results

If anything, Amazon is, uh, bending over backwards for this genre.

28 posted on 04/12/2009 5:26:00 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Their crying isn’t about human rights. It’s about using the government to force others to accept perversion as normal.


29 posted on 04/12/2009 5:26:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: FourPeas

“gay romance”: a coxymoron.


30 posted on 04/12/2009 6:31:23 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Librerals are more dangerous to liberty than terrorists.)
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To: Morgana
i can just see the cover. twin fabios, tonguing each other...
32 posted on 04/12/2009 6:58:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: FourPeas

I have noticed that when I read articles written by gay men, or short stories, or novels, they always find a way to reference poo.

“There is now an full-fledged Twitter shitstorm...”

I am not kidding. I read a lot, from David Sedaris to San Francisco newspapers etc., and it is really noticeable. I wasn’t looking for it. It just keeps happening.


33 posted on 04/12/2009 7:04:17 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“It’s about using the government to force others to accept perversion as normal.”

And exactly what pray tell is, dare I say... Normal?

Gay Americans, like each & every other American citizen has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now, precisely what is it that you don’t understand?


35 posted on 04/12/2009 7:10:26 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
And exactly what pray tell is, dare I say... Normal?

Normal is using the human body the way it was designed to be used. Gay sex causes several serious health problems.

Gay Americans, like each & every other American citizen has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

No one is stopping them. 5% of the population is gay and they are trying to make perverted sex mainstream and force everyone to accept it as normal. And they are using government to do it. They have usurped the language of the civil rights movement. They are not a race. They are a group of people that totally identifies themselves by the way they have sex. That's called hedonistic. Their whole life and identity is based on sexual pleasure.

36 posted on 04/12/2009 7:22:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: FourPeas

homosexuals never want to accept the fact that their chosen fetish is still a sexual fetish.


37 posted on 04/12/2009 7:30:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FourPeas

Amazon actually did something good: I shocked!


38 posted on 04/12/2009 9:39:55 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Obama yo 'mama', Uncle Sam yo 'baby daddy'!; (The new cry of the Obama generation)!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And they are using government to do it.

EXACTLY, they’re the big government advocates here, not conservatives!


39 posted on 04/12/2009 9:41:27 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Obama yo 'mama', Uncle Sam yo 'baby daddy'!; (The new cry of the Obama generation)!)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
"And exactly what pray tell is, dare I say... Normal?

Gay Americans, like each & every other American citizen has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now, precisely what is it that you don’t understand?

Normal and abby normal

Normal = intended or designed use

abby normal = deviant, debauched, debased, corrupted, depraved, vitiated, used in ways never intended or designed, filth laden, disgusting, loathsome, sickening, nauseous, repulsive, revolting, repugnant, abhorrent, detestable
= Gay

Gay Americans, like each and every other American citizen, already have the same rights every other American has. They do not have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater nor should we have to accept their push to get their foul, obscene, nasty, stomach wrenching, odiously filthy acts and desires to become rights.

40 posted on 04/12/2009 11:01:59 PM PDT by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: Waryone

“nor should we have to accept their push to get their foul, obscene, nasty, stomach wrenching, odiously filthy acts and desires to become rights.”

You see that is your problem... In free society you don’t get the right to tell other people how to live, nor do you have a right to be offended if it impinges on the rights of others who are exercizing their right to freedom, furthermore no one really cares how you feel, me included.


41 posted on 04/12/2009 11:54:01 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: napscoordinator
Isn’t this ranking based on sales? Perhaps people are not buying gay books. This seems like a stupid thing to complain about...who cares. I have seen threads here from conservatives complaining about this too when the conservative books fall off the chart...perhaps instead of complaining buying a book might be more adventagous. People just love to complain about EVERYTHING.

No, that isn't an option because Amazon admits that they aren't ranking the books on purpose. Amazon under fire (^)

FTA:

In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude "adult" material from appearing in some searches and best seller lists. Since these lists are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.

42 posted on 04/13/2009 12:24:23 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Freedom does not mean license to do whatever you want. Yelling fire in a crowded room, murder, and obscenity are still illegal. Also, you can’t discriminate against religious beliefs according to our Constitution.

The founders of the same document you cited never made provision to protect the filthy acts of a few. They did however protect the religious right of many so that they would not to have to go along with those disgusting practices.

As far as how the reprobate bottom dwellers live, they can do whatever they wish in the discomforts of their own infested lairs, just as long as others don’t have to deal with their deviant behaviors.


43 posted on 04/13/2009 12:48:42 AM PDT by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: JSDude1

That poster has now been banned.


44 posted on 04/13/2009 5:08:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: FourPeas
Amazon Says Glitch to Blame for "New" Adult Policy
45 posted on 04/13/2009 7:16:33 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
In free society you don’t get the right to tell other people how to live, nor do you have a right to be offended if it impinges on the rights of others who are exercising their right to freedom, furthermore no one really cares how you feel, me included.

You're incorrect on at least one point. People *do* have the right to be offended by others' actions. The thought police aren't yet that prevalent in our republic, not that the LGBT lobby isn't trying.

This action of Amazon's, whether or not they're now calling it a glitch, has nothing to do with the government. It's a private website making a choice on how to run its business just as FreeRepublic is a private website and limits various things. In a free society you don't get the right to tell websites what they must contain.

The last part of your post is truly insightful: furthermore no one really cares how you feel, me included. It fits when I hear people complaining about their nonexistent "human rights" when it comes to whether Amazon does or does not list the sales ratings for LGBT books.

47 posted on 04/13/2009 8:53:43 AM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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