Who wants to be a fire engine???
Posted on 04/13/2009 10:12:45 AM PDT by presidio9
If John Travolta, an avid user of his private jet and a reported Republican, were to be stopped by law from purchasing an armed fighter plane, would the film actor suddenly be surrounded by the same people who sanctimoniously claim that the Constitution protects the private citizen's right to buy and own an assault rifle?
That seems an absurd question, but we often find ourselves in absurd circumstances when we get to the gun issue. A hard fact leers before us: on the subject of guns, constitutional meaning and misinterpretation have been mixed together for so long that far too many people think our Constitution advocates things that it does not.
Confusion over history and the law are not new, but our trouble with gun ownership truly stands apart from the rules of how things are usually done.
In our democratic history a process leading to important policy changes has appeared over and over. It reveals a sense of ongoing injustice and the proof of blood sacrifice made by those who experience pain, mental suffering and death resulting from abusive policy.
The sequence of events is fairly simple: Something terribly wrong is discovered, it is then studied, conclusions are reached and a case is made for better laws being drafted.
Once the issue is raised into plain sight, the proverbial ball starts rolling.
Our attempts to create a mature and rational gun policy have not gone well. The lobby representing the NRA has had so much sway over Congress that the politicians run for cover rather than get on the lobby's enemies list. If they do, reelection becomes much harder.
The trouble has nothing to do with the right to hunt or the right to own a weapon for self-protection. The trouble is that any change is interpreted with the logic of a survivalist. Any limitations on what can and cannot be bought, can or cannot be stockpiled, are indisputable proof that "they" are taking our rights away and making us so docile or so vulnerable that "we" will be pushovers when the marching boots arrive and strip us of our liberty.
What is most startling about it all is how invulnerable that species of thought is to true domestic terrorism and lunatic slayings. The logic of freelance survivalists in government or the gun lobby is made ridiculous by the blood sacrifice all around us.
There is no civilized or reasonable reaction to all of the murders committed by urban street gangs or the highly publicized nuts so isolated from reality that killing becomes a terrifying way of getting attention or proving your alienation from others.
Add the fact that purported supporters of law and order manage to ignore the legions in law enforcement who oppose the sale of assault weapons to the citizenry. Why would they not? They know all of the details about the urban terrorism of street gangs and the tragedies unleashed by armed loons. We can add in the documented fact that weapons bought at unmonitored gun fairs are arming Mexican drug dealers who will end up fighting American troops very soon. Makes no difference. There is always a cost to following the Constitution. Enough said.
But not quite. Perhaps money is the real answer. I think that Russell Simmons, Arianna Huffington, George Soros and other limousine liberals should gather their forces and raise enough money from the wealthy who are actually interested in our civilization. With enough money, they just might be able to put a hole in the bucket of the gun lobby.
Worse things have been tried.
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Must disarm the people because they may revolt when they find out where the “stimulus monies”, Social Security, Treasury funds, ad nauseum went. Does the government rule us or are they to preserve the Constitution and safeguard the republic?
Irrelevant non-sequitor hypothetical.
John Travolta, and any other US citizen with enough money, is NOT stopped by law from purchasing an armed fighter plane. The paperwork might be a bit annoying, and finding a seller could be difficult, but it's entirely legal.
“There is no civilized or reasonable reaction to all of the murders committed by urban street gangs..”
Restricting gun ownership for law abiding people is a reasonable response?
Oh, wait....
Freedom is NOT free, Stanley.
They are ramping up the propaganda for the smelly ones visit to mexico
Propaganda push
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123956205887011615.html
Liars we can’t buy those guns
http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2009/tle512-20090329-05.html
Piglosi makes it clear
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m4d8-Pelosi-made-it-official-to-ABC-We-want-registration
Persuade the public
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Press-partisanship-gets-ugly-in-revived-gun-rights-debate
Goons
“With enough money, they just might be able to put a hole in the bucket of the gun lobby. “
That might lead to Soros and followers getting more holes than they expected in places not thought of .
The Constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms, not the delivery system for those arms. And that's what a fighter plane is. Now, if you want to remove the 20mm cannon and the Sidewinders to use independently, you'd have an argument to pursue.
Who wants to be a fire engine???
“There is no civilized or reasonable reaction to all of the murders committed by urban street gang”
Urban street gangs, like Somali pirates, have a successful business model.
I can say the same thing for sodomy. How mnny have died and are suffering from STD because bars and hotels encouraged their meetings for pickup and orgies???? Would the liberals punish the bars and hotels, and put limits on gay activities????
I don’t know, but I suddenly have an urge to visit a Jaguar dealership.
Add the fact that purported supporters of law and order manage to ignore the legions in law enforcement who oppose the sale of assault weapons to the citizenry. Why would they not? They know all of the details about the urban terrorism of street gangs and the tragedies unleashed by armed loons. We can add in the documented fact that weapons bought at unmonitored gun fairs are arming Mexican drug dealers who will end up fighting American troops very soon. Makes no difference. There is always a cost to following the Constitution. Enough said.
So many lies, so little time.
First, no problems with urban street gangs in my well armed neighborhood. Perhaps if they quit 'highly publicizing' the nuts, they would go away.
I know 'legions' of law enforcement who support so-called assualt weapons, own them and encourage civilians to own them.
It's been pretty well proven that whatever 'unmonitored gun fair' the Mexican cartels are buying their weapons at, is not in Texas, New Mexico or Arizona.
Indeed. The 2A isn’t about grandpa’s shotgun. Its about fighting to retake the government.
“If John Travolta, an avid user of his private jet and a reported Republican, were to be stopped by law from purchasing an armed fighter plane, would the film actor suddenly be surrounded by the same people who sanctimoniously claim that the Constitution protects the private citizen’s right to buy and own an assault rifle?”
Yes, even if he were a reported democrat. And how do we know what arms he has on his plane now?
I was thinking more along the lines of Saab... just to see if they’ve got some Mirage fighters sitting around gathering dust.
Well, here’s some equally stupid logic... what if someone used a Toyota Prius to run through a crowd of people, they could probably kill a few dozen folks before they were stopped. Then we would have to ban hybrid vehicles, however the Green Lobby wouldn’t stand for that!!! What a pickle. Gimme a break.
-”Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty, teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens’ firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that, to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that’s good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour.” - George Washington
“Russell Simmons, Arianna Huffington, George Soros and other limousine liberals should gather their forces and raise enough money from the wealthy who are actually interested in our civilization.”
Imagine its 1938 and someone proposes a commission composed of Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and Tojo to save civilization.
Three words: Confederate Air Force (though they were being overcome by political correctness and were going to drop the evil word “Confederate”-—don’t know if they did or not).
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