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Snail Changes Outpace Evolution's Slow Crawl (speedy diversification supports recent creation!)
ICR ^ | April 14, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 04/14/2009 11:22:12 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Snail Changes Outpace Evolution's Slow Crawl

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Scientists observe many changes to animal physiology that occur too quickly to fit the “slow and gradual” concepts favored by classical Darwinian evolution. An illustration of this type of rapid variation is the ever-growing list of dog breeds, which proliferated to over 150 from only a few dozen strains in just a couple of centuries. Now, the size of certain Atlantic Ocean snail shells is providing further evidence for speedy diversification within species, having “actually increased by an average of 22.6% over the past century.”[1]...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: brianthomasvanity; creation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; science; zeusdooditamen

1 posted on 04/14/2009 11:22:12 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; DaveLoneRanger; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/14/2009 11:22:47 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Though I appreciate all these articles,
I really don’t need the world to validate
God’s Word...

This is why I don’t argue on these threads.


3 posted on 04/14/2009 11:24:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: GodGunsGuts

i’d be glad to go on this ping list. thanks.


4 posted on 04/14/2009 11:26:00 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 04/14/2009 11:30:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MrB

We are validating what God has said about this world. If He said that He evolved us over millions of years, that would be what Christians would expect to find as well. But He didn’t say that. He said he created the world in six days, and that he created all the ancestral organisms fully formed and fully functional, including man.


6 posted on 04/14/2009 11:32:58 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ConservativeDude

Welcome aboard the HMS CREATION!

All the best—GGG


7 posted on 04/14/2009 11:38:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

thanks and soli deo gloria


8 posted on 04/14/2009 11:41:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Amen to that brother!


9 posted on 04/14/2009 11:46:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: MrB

Exactly. Why try to support non-scientific beliefs with science?


10 posted on 04/14/2009 11:50:19 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Does that include behemoths with bronze bones, or just bones like brass?


11 posted on 04/14/2009 11:57:06 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

You said god evolved us for over a million years.. Yet you believe that Earth is only 6,000 years old. Isn’t that contradictory???


12 posted on 04/14/2009 11:59:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Oh, make no mistake, I don’t believe the self appointed “scientists” that argue on these threads have any other agenda than to “prove” that God doesn’t exist and didn’t create the universe.

I just don’t need a worldly justification for my belief that what He tells us is truth.


13 posted on 04/14/2009 12:00:47 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: swain_forkbeard

EXACTLY. Science may tell us “HOW”. Faith tells us “WHY”. Evolution no more denigrates God than my making a poor attempt at a pumpkin pie disproves the existence of Marie Callender.

In fact, I posit trying to twist science and natural phenomenon in ways to “prove” that same science is wrong is not just logically wrong, but spiritually misleading. A real observer, a real scientist only becomes more and more awestruck by the inter-relations of the laws of nature and how it all really works together.

And ultimately, if not denigrated as a Christ-hating “evo-scientist”, will come to understand that something, or better Someone, created it all with a master plan. This realization does not suddenly make the science learned and studied wrong; it helps explain the why that goes with the how.


14 posted on 04/14/2009 12:02:52 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: KevinDavis

I didn’t say he evolved us, I said “If He said that He evolved us over millions of years, that would be what Christians would expect to find as well. But He didn’t say that.”...big difference.


15 posted on 04/14/2009 12:03:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I'm starting to lose track of the creationist arguments here. DNA just shows that God used interchangeable components to create various kinds, but DNA nevertheless exists to prevent evolution. The family Equidae is a "kind," but the family Hominidae is not. Evolution is false because no one has ever observed it, and besides, there hasn't been enough time for it to happen. And now:

Evolution is false because it has been observed, and it's happening to fast.

16 posted on 04/14/2009 12:31:43 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: GodGunsGuts

Um.... unless this guy has detected the Hand of God directing these changes, he’s not doing anything more than lending support to the idea of some sort of punctuated equillibrium.


17 posted on 04/14/2009 12:34:17 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: KevinDavis
You said god evolved us for over a million years.. Yet you believe that Earth is only 6,000 years old. Isn’t that contradictory???

Not if you're counting in God years....

18 posted on 04/14/2009 12:35:57 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: GodGunsGuts
Scientists observe many changes to animal physiology that occur too quickly to fit the “slow and gradual” concepts favored by classical Darwinian evolution.

The author speaks of variations within a species. Not inconsistent with evolution of new species which usually is considered slow and gradual but also has certain hypotheses for speedier evolutionary changes to happen.

19 posted on 04/14/2009 2:05:35 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts
and that he created all the ancestral organisms fully formed and fully functional, including man.

I must have missed that part of the bible. Please enlighten me as to the passage. thanks.

20 posted on 04/14/2009 2:06:56 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts

Fools.


21 posted on 04/14/2009 2:08:11 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: MrB
Oh, make no mistake, I don’t believe the self appointed “scientists” that argue on these threads have any other agenda than to “prove” that God doesn’t exist and didn’t create the universe.

You said earlier that you didn't argue on these threads. I see. You have no argument. Thanks.

22 posted on 04/14/2009 2:08:42 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater; GodGunsGuts

tick tick tick tick tick tick tick


23 posted on 04/14/2009 2:10:06 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interesting. Mr. Thomas has a bunch of references! A bunch of references back to himself. He should relabel himself as a circular type of guy!

References

Fisher, J. A. D. et al. 2009. An intertidal snail shows a dramatic size increase over the past century. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 106 (13): 5209-5212.
Atlantic snails are increasing dramatically in size, Queen’s researcher discovers. Queen’s University press release, March 24, 2009.
Thomas, B. Cichlid Coloration Corroborates Creation. ICR News. Posted on icr.org October 16, 2008, accessed April 3, 2009.
Thomas, B. What Spurs Evolution: the Old or the Young? ICR News. Posted on icr.org October 17, 2008, accessed April 3, 2009.
Thomas, B. Recent Human Variation is Not Evolution. ICR News. Posted on icr.org February 23, 2009, accessed April 3, 2009.
Thomas, B. Why Are Human Genes Still Linked? ICR News. Posted on icr.org August 6, 2008, accessed April 3, 2009.
Thomas, B. Elephant Secrets under Middle East Sands. ICR News. Posted on icr.org January 26, 2009, accessed April 3, 2009.
* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.


24 posted on 04/14/2009 2:23:21 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

Can you read? Most of those references are attached to a single line where Thomas draws attention to things he has previously reported on.


25 posted on 04/14/2009 3:28:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Can you read? Most of those references are attached to a single line where Thomas draws attention to things he has previously reported on.

Makes his list of references appear impressive till you read them and find out he is merely referencing himself.

26 posted on 04/14/2009 5:41:37 PM PDT by ColdWater
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