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Posted on 04/14/2009 5:10:44 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Obama Weighs Airing CIA Tactics Top Officials at Odds Over Whether to Withhold Some Details in Interrogation Memos
By EVAN PEREZ and SIOBHAN GORMAN
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is leaning toward keeping secret some graphic details of tactics allowed in Central Intelligence Agency interrogations, despite a push by some top officials to make the information public, according to people familiar with the discussions.
These people cautioned that President Barack Obama is still reviewing internal arguments over the release of Justice Department memorandums related to CIA interrogations, and how much information will be made public is in flux.
Among the details in the still-classified memos is approval for a technique in which a prisoner's head could be struck against a wall as long as the head was being held and the force of the blow was controlled by the interrogator, according to people familiar with the memos. Another approved tactic was waterboarding, or simulated drowning.
A decision to keep secret key parts of the three 2005 memos outlining legal guidance on CIA interrogations would anger some Obama supporters who have pushed him to unveil now-abandoned Bush-era tactics. It would also go against the views of Attorney General Eric Holder and White House Counsel Greg Craig, people familiar with the matter said.
Top CIA officials have spoken out strongly against a full release, saying it would undermine the agency's credibility with foreign intelligence services and hurt the agency's work force, people involved in the discussions said. However, Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair favors releasing the information, a senior administration official said.
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why is releasing the information so important to them?
Are they not aware that we are in an ongoing war that may well last for a generation??
The less the enemy knows, the better for our people - our nation!!
red meat to the base?
That' what those pukes ought to have on their minds ~ a big fat noose at the end of their terms.
War? What war? Are you referring to the overseas contingency operation?
I don’t know what to say anymore. If I said some of what I think, I’d have the door knocked down in about 5 minutes.
Gosh, They are begining to understand, elections have consequences, and consequences are the natural result of risky behavior.
Be careful not to violate the Community Decibel Limit.
Gee, wonder what Valerie Plame thinks?
> I’ll be right back after i get done screaming in the backyard....
I’ll be right beside you drowning you out ...
Everyday the news just gets worst. Just think it has been less than 100 days. I cannot imagine where we will be in 4 years.
Their war is with American conservatives, not Islamic radicals.
I’m sure the folks who do the “dirty work” at the CIA will be thrilled with this!
Obama is looking for trouble, IMO.
Gee, why not just require CIA agents to wear tee-shirts with CIA on the back in 8” letters.
Uh, Treason, Impeachment...
Thanks for posting the article.
“despite a push by some top officials to make the information public”
Who are the ‘top officials’ who want to do this????
“We want to maximize the amount of information available to the American people,” said a senior administration official involved in the discussions...”
Oh yeah? I guess this means maximize the amount of information available that would severly damage national security or put other people’s lives at risk, but certainly not information regarding obama, his college years, his place of birth, his former employment, his previous and current associations, or the content of pending legislation.
” Top CIA officials have spoken out strongly against a full release, saying it would undermine the agency’s credibility with foreign intelligence services and hurt the agency’s work force,”
Which is precisely why Soetero will release it.
He’s not fighting Islamic terrorists,
he’s now fighting law abiding Americans.
He won’t waterboard Osama bin Laden,but,
he’ll waterboard some little old lady from Operation Rescue.
Do not do that, bite your tongue, wince, shed a few silent tears but the backyard might be too public, they might be watching you.
Keeping a list I hope....dates, what he did , pros and cons, damage done short term and long term etc ........I plan on printing up flyers and dropping em from 10,000 feet AGL once a week, 30 days prior to 2010 elections.
Why congress HAS to be taken back against this poser precedent per se !~
Hey....Hey.....they got a new dog....who CARES about anything else!! Please!
This is subterfuge by the Whitehouse of the CIA. Wonder how that left leaning department feels now?
That was no election - it was phase one of a coup.
Why not publish the information these scumbags gave up after a couple of knocks to the head.
Look, this WSJ article is professional disinformation. I can tell you that **for certain** because Eric Holder doesn’t want the CIA techniques released (that point is in the article, too).
I know Eric Holder. He is a treasonous, partisan, radical left-wing SOB. The only...and I mean the only...reason that Eric Holder doesn’t want the CIA techniques released is because the actual techniques used are pleasure, not pain.
Ecstasy, not fear.
Which is to say, Eric Holder doesn’t want the CIA interrogation techniques released because the real field methods in use are the **OPPOSITE** of what the Left lied about while Bush was President.
Our CIA uses drugs like ecstasy, caffeine, Nitrous Oxide, as well as powerful human connections/sentiment. Waterboarding was never used, that’s a cover story.
If you’ve ever gone to a college rave and seen the girl who couldn’t keep from hugging you (and who likewise won’t shut up) because she’s hopped up on Red Bull and X, then you’ve got some idea of what *really* goes on at Gitmo.
...and Eric Holder doesn’t want the world to know that the Left has been lying all along about the techniques used by the CIA under Bush.
This, I promise you.
Thanks Southack for that information. Very interesting, indeed.
Not unless we have a sea change... a ground swell. A paradigm changer. Something big.
We on this sight are all soooo screwed.
That kind of stuff doesn't set well with the military irrespective of their personal political beliefs.
BO could give a chit less about our nation. He is a goat loving Mooselimb terrorist POS.
Have you seen this?:
Torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay has been systematic, extensive and a matter of deliberate policy, says a report originally prepared in 2007 by the International Committee of the Red Cross. Obtained by journalist Mark Danner, the report, which detailed the complicity of medical personnel in the mistreatment of detainees, has been posted online (PDF) by the New York Review of Books.
Techniques practiced at Guantanamo and elsewhere on the 14 detainees examined in the 41-page report include suffocation by water, prolonged standing with arms chained above their heads, beatings, confinement in a box, sleep deprivation and other tactics that involve both physical and psychological abuse. While written in somewhat technical terms, the report emphasizes that the detainees treatment amounted to torture and/or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.
At best it’s a cover story. At worst it’s lies by the Left.
My trusted friend has been inside those specific interrogations at Gitmo, and pleasure drugs+tactics were used exclusively.
Fascinating, but consistent with the best practices in interrogation.
I wonder why let the lie run? It simply makes us look bad and the Bush Admin. did little to counter it. Did they think it better not to let the most effective techniques out?