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Rendell: Police Across State Are Outgunned (calling for Federal ban tomorrow)
KDKA Pittsburgh ^ | April 14 | Staff

Posted on 04/14/2009 6:40:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy

In Harrisburg tomorrow, Rendell is expected to call for the reinstatement of the federal ban on the sale of AK-47s and other automatic firearms.

"Assault weapons were not made to hunt," Rendell added. "No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ak47; awb; baboonbuttrendell; banglist; fasteddie; police; pondscum; rendell; slicklawyer
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Good timing too. His first remarks since the murder of 3 policemen by a white man. Note no outcry over the Oakland murder of 4 policeman by a black man last month.
1 posted on 04/14/2009 6:40:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Yah well. The Second Amendment wasn’t about hunting.


2 posted on 04/14/2009 6:42:46 PM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: PghBaldy

People in Missouri hunt with AK’s and SKS’s. I’m thinking of doing the same next year.


3 posted on 04/14/2009 6:42:48 PM PDT by Chris DeWeese (http://www.firstcenturychristianity.net)
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To: PghBaldy

I have an idea, call me crazy but if the police are outgunned, how about getting them bigger guns?


4 posted on 04/14/2009 6:43:17 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: PghBaldy

“No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one.”

Horse flop!!

A buddy of mine shot three with an AR last year....


5 posted on 04/14/2009 6:43:23 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR. ....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: PghBaldy

Yo, FAST EDDY Rendell ... The Constitution doesn’t SAY ANYTHING about HUNTING... The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is to PROTECT ourselves from the “WELL REGULATED MILITIA” mentioned just before the Comma!!

A*****E


6 posted on 04/14/2009 6:43:30 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: PghBaldy

Another opportunity for Americans to passively give up more of their rights.


7 posted on 04/14/2009 6:44:12 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: PghBaldy

8 posted on 04/14/2009 6:44:21 PM PDT by BigBlueJon ("And shepherds we shall be....For Thee, my Lord, for Thee....")
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To: PghBaldy

Get a grip, Ed. Automatics are already VERY tightly controlled and regulated. No need for more laws.

How ‘bout we enforce the ones we already have on the books? What say?

Ya dipstick...


9 posted on 04/14/2009 6:44:31 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: PghBaldy
Assault weapons were not made to hunt," Rendell added

Correction Rendell... your so called "assault weapons" were made to hunt.... they were made to hunt tyranny.....

and why do you have that deer in the headlights look?

10 posted on 04/14/2009 6:44:54 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: gwilhelm56

We The People Are The Sovereign Masters of Our Servant Government.


11 posted on 04/14/2009 6:44:55 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: PghBaldy

Maybe not deer, but people shoot smaller prey all the time with 223 caliber AR rifles. There are also 308 caliber AR rifles that are used for deer and larger game.


12 posted on 04/14/2009 6:45:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: PghBaldy

So-called “assault weapons” are perfect for hunting bipeds, which is why the 2nd Amendment exists, Fast Eddie.


13 posted on 04/14/2009 6:45:28 PM PDT by GnL
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To: BigBlueJon

Oooops. Bad link.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_PCWVMS20FPRED8.asp

That sure looks like an M16 right there.


14 posted on 04/14/2009 6:45:38 PM PDT by BigBlueJon ("And shepherds we shall be....For Thee, my Lord, for Thee....")
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To: PghBaldy
I would like to come outside with us and announce that at 12noon on the steps.
15 posted on 04/14/2009 6:45:59 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Fump!)
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To: PghBaldy

Those who are alleged to be better armed than the police, and where that is a legitimate concern, are precisely those will will continue to be better armed than the police, regardless of what weapons are outlawed. Such people make it their business to flout the law. Were it not so, no one would care about how well armed they might be.


16 posted on 04/14/2009 6:46:18 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: PghBaldy

“Assault weapons were not made to hunt,”

Piano wire wasn’t made to hang people either. What’s your point?


17 posted on 04/14/2009 6:47:00 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Conservatives see untapped potential. Liberals see Tapped-out hopelessness.)
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To: gwilhelm56
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is to PROTECT ourselves from the WELL REGULATED MILITIA mentioned just before the Comma!!

That's an interpretation I've never seen before.

18 posted on 04/14/2009 6:47:19 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: PghBaldy

0bama’s caddy & minigun aren’t chump change:

http://autoanything.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/obamas-got-a-new-caddy-backed-by-a-mini-gun-equipped-gmc-yukon/


19 posted on 04/14/2009 6:47:59 PM PDT by combat_boots (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: PghBaldy
"No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one."

Oops.

Mr. Rendell, you don't know what the @$#% you're talking about. But, that comes as no big surprise.

Deer Hunting forum at AK47.net

Deer Hunting forum at AR15.com

(M-16, probably not, but AR-15 is what they'll ban anyway...)

20 posted on 04/14/2009 6:48:17 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: PghBaldy
"No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one."

He's right, they're used to shoot wannabe tyrants

21 posted on 04/14/2009 6:49:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: PghBaldy

30 to 100 bullets at one time?
I’ve got to have one of those.


22 posted on 04/14/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Extreme Right -Wing Extremist)
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To: BigBlueJon

**Due to High Demand, Lead Times on Order Fulfillment have increased. Thank you for your patience while we work to supply your needs as fast and efficiently as possible. **

Seen same thing on several other sites...

Keep this up and Fuhrer Obama is going to get SALESMAN of the YEAR!!!


23 posted on 04/14/2009 6:50:08 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: PghBaldy

Presumably, the gov is a dhimmicrat and therefore says nothing that is based on truth. He’s an ideal candidate for the Obamaloon collection of Loon-O-Tics.


24 posted on 04/14/2009 6:51:09 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: sionnsar

“Yah well. The Second Amendment wasn’t about hunting.”

Yup. It was about taking out fat politicians who had no regard for the rights of the people. Maybe that’s why Eddie is worried?


25 posted on 04/14/2009 6:52:08 PM PDT by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: PghBaldy

“AK-47s and other automatic firearms”

Automatic firearms are already banned (unless you have an FFL). Have been since 33. Intentionally mischaracterizing semi-autos as automatics. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about this jerk as well as the “journalist” — they are either too stupid to know the difference or are intentionally lying.


26 posted on 04/14/2009 6:52:35 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: PghBaldy

GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.....


27 posted on 04/14/2009 6:53:38 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Clint Williams

**That’s an interpretation I’ve never seen before.**

Drives the Libs crazy or leaves them Stuttering as I walk away from them.. I refuse to fight with a lib re:2nd amendment on Their terms... gotta keep them off balance


28 posted on 04/14/2009 6:53:57 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: All

Can someone please explain to me why, if all the illegals have these terrible weapons, we can’t have them to defend ourselves and our property?

Shouldn’t we be equipping our militias, police, and national guards with them as well?


29 posted on 04/14/2009 6:54:35 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: PghBaldy

Hunting has nothing to do with 2d Amendment but My main deer-rifle is a Colt AR15.


30 posted on 04/14/2009 6:55:26 PM PDT by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: PghBaldy

Well there’s a tea party at the capitol tomorrow, maybe they can address this also.


31 posted on 04/14/2009 6:56:43 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: gwilhelm56
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is to PROTECT ourselves from the “WELL REGULATED MILITIA” mentioned just before the Comma!!

These people can't let it be known that we need the guns to protect ourselves from *them*. So what does that say about their intentions toward us??

32 posted on 04/14/2009 6:59:49 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: PghBaldy
"No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one."

Apparently, Rendell never heard about the "Death Run" that deer do when they get shot. Once you shoot them critters, adrenaline enables them to run another 100 or so yards before falling. Sometimes they get away into the woods. So, in the immortal words of Samuel L. Jackson from "Jackson Brown" -

"AK-47: WHEN YOU POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY, HAVE TO KILL EVERY MUTHA----ER IN THE ROOM!"

33 posted on 04/14/2009 7:00:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The movie should be “Jackie Brown,” my bad. I’m thinking about the Tax folks ROFL


34 posted on 04/14/2009 7:04:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: gwilhelm56

He already did.

He ought to get an award for boosting sales of “Atlas Shrugged”, too.


35 posted on 04/14/2009 7:06:52 PM PDT by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. They're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: eyeamok

Politicians prefer unarmed peasants


36 posted on 04/14/2009 7:08:42 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: PghBaldy
"Assault weapons were not made to hunt," Rendell added.

The Second Amendment is not about hunting. If it was, it would say "Venison being good, the right to hunt shall not be abridged."

The Second Amendment is about abusive government.

37 posted on 04/14/2009 7:09:25 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: sionnsar
Yah well. The Second Amendment wasn't about hunting.

No, at the time it was written, it was about guaranteeing that the average US citizen had the right to be at least as well armed as a British foot soldier

38 posted on 04/14/2009 7:09:48 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Clinton was our first black President ... Obama is our first French President.)
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To: George Smiley

**He ought to get an award for boosting sales of “Atlas Shrugged”, too.**

As I read MOST of it during High School, He definitely Motivated me to get a copy to read it Again!!!

As well as 1984 AND Animal Farm


39 posted on 04/14/2009 7:12:50 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I GIVE UP .... HEIL Obama!!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

M16 and ARs are two differnently functioning rifles.

M16s are illegal without a Class 3 Federal license.

Rendell doesn’t know what he is speaking about.


40 posted on 04/14/2009 7:21:12 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Sir Clancelot

>I have an idea, call me crazy but if the police are outgunned, how about getting them bigger guns?

You’re crazy... the obvious solution is to arm the general population.


41 posted on 04/14/2009 7:26:02 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: PghBaldy
"Assault weapons were not made to hunt," Rendell added.

The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

42 posted on 04/14/2009 7:27:16 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will loose.

James Earl Jones

"To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."

Richard Henry Lee writing in letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788)

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage then to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764



“To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”

Richard Henry Lee writing in letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788)



“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyrany in government.”

Thomas Jefferson



“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”

Sigmond Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis



“There is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen”.

7th Circut Court, Bowers v. DeVito (1982)

43 posted on 04/14/2009 7:29:22 PM PDT by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“Rendell doesn’t know what he is speaking about.”

Not Breaking News.......

“M16 and ARs are two differnently functioning rifles.”

Yep. But, you knew where I was going with that.....


44 posted on 04/14/2009 7:30:12 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR. ....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: PghBaldy

Here is the gun control bill that the Obama Administration and anti-gun Democrats want to pass...

1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licenses will have high renewal fees ($100-300/yr). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.

2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets. Furthermore, this will require the gun to leave a microstamp of its own on the ammo. (BTW, this will also affect law enforcement and military ammunition stocks, as they will be required to have stamps of their own)

3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon. If you can’t afford this, you have to turn the weapon in without compensation...

4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

Finally, all CCW permits will be voided. Also, all gun and ammo imports will be banned.


45 posted on 04/14/2009 7:30:40 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

>4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

4b — Also allows mere allegations, unsubstantiated rumors, and trumped-up charges to be used as disqualifiers.


46 posted on 04/14/2009 7:42:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: PghBaldy
"Assault weapons were not made to hunt," Rendell added. "No one goes out and shoots a deer with an AK-47 or an M-16. No one does. No one."

Ignoring the fact that the 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting, Fast Eddie is completely wrong here too. I guess he's just too fast with the facts...

Semi-auto AKs and SKSs ARE used for hunting all the time. The cartridge they fire (7.62x39) is roughly the same power as the most common deer cartridge around (30-30 Win). Given the average range that most deer are taken, both the AKs and SKSs are plenty accurate for hunting, and they're about the most trouble free, durable, rugged, and reliable mechanical devices ever designed.

Fast Eddie is sort of right about shooting deer with an M-16. First off, M-16s are extremely rare in civilian hands. No new M-16s have been sold to civilians since 1986, because the FOPA forbids the registration of new fully automatic weapons to civilians. So an M-16 in civilian hands would sell for several thousand dollars, coupled with a federal background check, and the weapon would still be at least 23 years old!

On the other hand, an "AR-15," or some derivative is an extremely popular sporting (target shooting AND hunting) rifle. Not so much for deer, since the .223/5.56 cartridge isn't legal for deer hunting in many states. But the rifles are extremely accurate, and are terrific varmint and target rifles.

So Ed, pull your head out of your a$$ and quit lying for once!

Mark

47 posted on 04/14/2009 7:48:06 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: gwilhelm56
**Due to High Demand, Lead Times on Order Fulfillment have increased. Thank you for your patience while we work to supply your needs as fast and efficiently as possible. **

Seen same thing on several other sites...

When I tried to order an AR-15 Bolt & Carrier assembly and charging handle, the only place I could get to take my order (most weren't taking "back orders" until they got "caught up") informed me that it would be at least 4 months before they could get the parts.

Mark

48 posted on 04/14/2009 7:51:55 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Mikey
Terrific quotes, thanks for posting them... Here's one that I came up with myself a number of years ago...

"If the problem is that there are 'too many guns on the streets,' disarm the police. If the problem is that there are too many bad guys on the streets, lock them up and arm the good guys."

Mark

49 posted on 04/14/2009 7:56:11 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: PghBaldy

For the first time, I see how tyranny will come.


50 posted on 04/14/2009 8:01:13 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Rendell to call for gun ban 4/15/09 http://kdka.com/local/Governor.Ed.Rendell.2.984771.html)
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