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To: GodGunsGuts
Darwin’s ToE is a materialist fairytale, based on zero evidence that I can understand.

Fixed it for ya.

In reality the evidence supporting Evolution is overwhelming.
19 posted on 04/15/2009 11:44:10 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Filo
Oh please, if it's so overwhelming, then why was Darwood forced to write Origins as nothing more than a long argument, devoid of data? How come they Evos are publishing articles with such titles as "What Darwin Didn't Know" or "Darwin was Wrong" or "Darwin Must Die So Evolution Can Live"??? Let's face it, the Evos are on the run, and about the last person to realize it is you. LOL
20 posted on 04/15/2009 11:49:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Filo

>>Darwin’s ToE is a materialist fairytale, based on zero evidence that I can understand.

Fixed it for ya.

In reality the evidence supporting Evolution is overwhelming. <<

Pretty much everybody can understand that the oldest fossils are simple and that complexity and diversity increases as they get newer until you get the various modern species. And pretty much anyone looking at the grand canyon can see this didn’t happen in thousands of years.

Its takes either a lack of exposure to science or a dominating reason to deny the simple parts developmental science.

Since that over-riding reason is most often concern about an entire belief structure collapsing - which is a pretty reasonable concern, we are not gonna convince most creationists.

So the focus on really should just be on making sure we teach science in science class and decide science policy on science, not on religion. That’s the best we are gonna get.


98 posted on 04/16/2009 12:52:17 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: Filo; GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

Filo said: In reality the evidence supporting Evolution is overwhelming.

Spirited: Your claim is self-refuting. It is irrational. Here’s why:

Evidence points back to truth and reality. Truth is exact accordance with that which is, or has been, or shall be. History, as it unfolds, is the record of truth and reality.

Truth, as recorded over and over by history shows that the seed of wheat, when planted, watered and tended, has never brought forth anything but wheat. Never once has the seed of wheat brought forth tomatos, as ought to happen if evolution is true.

History records that birds return every spring. Each kind pairs and mates with its own kind and builds nests peculiar to its own kind. Never once has it ever occurred that a robin was seen mating with a bluebird. Nor has a nest ever once been seen with a porch, gutters, roof, or TV antenna. Why? Because birds do what birds must do. They possess no free will to do otherwise. Yet if evolution is true, one might reasonably expect to see a penthouse nest or two after all this time.

History says that when mating season arrives, each kind must mate without fail. Not even once has man ever witnessed lions, or bears, or horses refusing to mate, for animals do not possess free will. No, it’s man who freely chooses to refuse to procreate in the name of Gaia or some such superstitious nonsense.

Not once throughout our long history has man ever witnessed stallions deserting their mares in order to go ‘gay.’ Nor has man ever witnessed even once, a titmouse dying its topnotch orange or purple nor a monkey putting rings through its nose, mouth, and elsewhere. Only man possesses the free will to choose to do not just strange things to his body but things contrary to nature.

History records that in addition to seeing man choose to do things contrary to nature, it records that man lies. He lies to himself and he lies to others.

Because Darwinism denies reality, it finds it must claim that the Permant Things, that is, universal moral law, truth, absolutes, virtue, history, even the two sexes male and female, ought not exist because not only did everything occur and continue to occur by chance, but everything is in continuous flux (change)as it readies itself for the next quantum leap in evolution. By extension of this Darwinian (il)logic, (which implies history, btw) evidence of any kind-—even empirical-—is merely a delusion, for reality does not exist. Hence your claim regarding evidence and reality in support of evolution contradicts evolution’s main claim, that truth and reality cannot and do not exist.

How can this self-contradictory conundrum be explained?
“Man lies. He lies to himself, and he lies to others.”
He ‘wills’ himself not to know what he really does know.


178 posted on 04/26/2009 2:16:05 PM PDT by spirited irish
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