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1,500 farmers commit mass suicide in India
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 4/15/09

Posted on 04/15/2009 11:37:03 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Over 1,500 farmers in an Indian state committed suicide after being driven to debt by crop failure, it was reported today.

The agricultural state of Chattisgarh was hit by falling water levels.

"The water level has gone down below 250 feet here. It used to be at 40 feet a few years ago," Shatrughan Sahu, a villager in one of the districts, told Down To Earth magazine

"Most of the farmers here are indebted and only God can save the ones who do not have a bore well."

Mr Sahu lives in a district that recorded 206 farmer suicides last year. Police records for the district add that many deaths occur due to debt and economic distress.

In another village nearby, Beturam Sahu, who owned two acres of land was among those who committed suicide. His crop is yet to be harvested, but his son Lakhnu left to take up a job as a manual labourer.

His family must repay a debt of £400 and the crop this year is poor.

"The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds," said Lakhnu's friend Santosh. "There were no rains at all."

"That's why Lakhnu left even before harvesting the crop. There is nothing left to harvest in his land this time. He is worried how he will repay these loans."

Bharatendu Prakash, from the Organic Farming Association of India, told the Press Association: "Farmers' suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death."

Mr Prakash added that the government ought to take up the cause of the poor farmers just as they fight for a strong economy.

"Development should be for all. The government blames us for being against development. Forest area is depleting and dams are constructed without proper planning.

All this contributes to dipping water levels. Farmers should be taken into consideration when planning policies," he said.


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KEYWORDS: farmers; india; mass; suicide
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1 posted on 04/15/2009 11:37:03 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Bush’s fault


2 posted on 04/15/2009 11:37:33 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: LibWhacker

America should quick damming their rivers with our carbon footprint. < /sarc >


3 posted on 04/15/2009 11:39:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

How long before this is cited as evidence of the ravages of global warming?


4 posted on 04/15/2009 11:39:49 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: LibWhacker

They sure aren’t acting very hopeychangey over there.


5 posted on 04/15/2009 11:40:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: LibWhacker

I hope God understands and if reincarcanation does occur, they’re put in a much better position in their next life.

Personally I think He forgot that we can’t always bear what He was able too.


6 posted on 04/15/2009 11:42:33 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: LibWhacker
20 years, and still no progress...:-(


7 posted on 04/15/2009 11:42:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LibWhacker

Folks, please. I love to joke around as much as the next guy, but we’re talking about 1,500 DEAD HUMAN BEINGS. Can we please at least act like we give a damn?


8 posted on 04/15/2009 11:43:34 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: LibWhacker
Monsanto must be so proud.
9 posted on 04/15/2009 11:44:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: LibWhacker
1500 hundred people commit mass suicide and 95% of this article is about the weather conditions???

um, how did they do it?! where were they?! info please!

10 posted on 04/15/2009 11:44:51 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
um, how did they do it?! where were they?! info please!
11 posted on 04/15/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: LibWhacker

This is incredibly sad....my heart breaks for their families.....


12 posted on 04/15/2009 11:46:39 AM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, he's awake!)
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To: LibWhacker

This is horribly sad.


13 posted on 04/15/2009 11:46:51 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: B-Chan

People don’t give a damn, that’s why America is headed down the tube, no one cares, “The love of most will grow cold” the goodbook says about the end-times. They were just worthless hindu farmers, who cares, they were beyond the love of God I’m sure .... (oh so people think)


14 posted on 04/15/2009 11:46:57 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: thefactor
how did they do it?!

Fifteen hundred different ways, I think. As far as I can tell these people committed suicide over the last year or two or three. Not a mass suicide at all. Just misleading- title-of-the-year material.

15 posted on 04/15/2009 11:47:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
""Farmers' suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death.""

That's not true, there is always the option of taking out the moneylender instead of yourself...

16 posted on 04/15/2009 11:48:32 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: thefactor
'Mass-suicide' is journalistic word-play. The farmers did not get together and kill themselves, a-la Jonestown. These are individual incidents.


17 posted on 04/15/2009 11:48:55 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: B-Chan
Sometimes large numbers like this turn into abstractions rather than real people.

I read recently that an average of 17 people die on the Bangalore commuter rail system every day. Most of these involve passengers falling off trains, hanging off the side of a train and striking fixed objects in the right-of-way, or getting electrocuted by overhead wires while riding on top of rail cars.

That's five or six thousand people who die every year just traveling to work. Holy smokes.

18 posted on 04/15/2009 11:50:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: LibWhacker
As far as I can tell these people committed suicide over the last year or two or three.

Yup. In any population, a certain number of people are going commit suicide every year. In a population as large as India's, that number must be pretty high. If we look for any profession - farmer, electrician, plumber - the number will probably be startling. I assume the number for farmers must be higher than normal, but don't see anything in the article about that.
19 posted on 04/15/2009 11:51:59 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Scythian

I’m afraid you’re right.

More and more lately I see the futility of political action. We are not going to beat the Conspiracy by playing the Conspiracy’s rigged game, but by transcending it. They have tanks, guns, mass media, the education system, and drugs. Our only weapon is love. The only way we’re going to beat them is by loving our neighbors as ourselves, and God above all.

If a museum with 1,500 priceless paintings burns down, people everywhere cry for the loss to humanity, and rightly so. Yet when 1,500 innocent human beings die — each one a unique and priceless work of art — we shrug at the loss.

May God help us, and may God forgive these poor people who killed themselves.


20 posted on 04/15/2009 11:53:12 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Hooray, Portugal!


21 posted on 04/15/2009 11:54:14 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ScottinVA

I like your term “hopeychangey “. I will use it, and the’s nothing you can do about it.


22 posted on 04/15/2009 11:54:15 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play" -- Joseph Goebbels)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

What does the the red area have in common?


23 posted on 04/15/2009 11:55:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: B-Chan
I totally agree, watching this video showed me the cynacism in my own self, I wept at the end upon hearing the female judges words Susan Boyle Even without her voice, we are all wonderfully made.
24 posted on 04/15/2009 11:55:42 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: B-Chan
If a museum with 1,500 priceless paintings burns down, people everywhere cry for the loss to humanity, and rightly so. Yet when 1,500 innocent human beings die — each one a unique and priceless work of art — we shrug at the loss.

Good point. thank you.

25 posted on 04/15/2009 11:56:19 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play" -- Joseph Goebbels)
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To: Alberta's Child

More than 40,000 Americans die on the road every year, all needlessly (we could live without cars), and no one cares. By comparison, we lost something like 50,000 during the entire Vietnam War.

I don’t get it.


26 posted on 04/15/2009 11:57:53 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ConservativeMan55
1,500 farmers commit mass suicide in India

Please excuse display of ignorance, but how did this all come about? Who came up with the idea? Who organized it? Chattisgarh is a fairly large state Did someone -- or some group -- travel throughout the state looking for and/or convincing participants in this? How is it that no one in any sort of authority, even a local school teacher, didn't get wind of this and report it? B/c they kept it a secret? All 1,500 + their families? All of them? It would be on the scale of someone traveling around Nebraska trying to convince 1,500 farmers to commit suicide all at once. And how did these Indian farmers do it:"All together now...One...Two..."

27 posted on 04/15/2009 12:00:19 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: B-Chan
Folks, please. I love to joke around as much as the next guy, but we’re talking about 1,500 DEAD HUMAN BEINGS. Can we please at least act like we give a damn?

It's a nonsensical article, with absolutely no attempt to even pretend to validate the figure given in the first sentence.

120,000 midgets had an earache.

28 posted on 04/15/2009 12:01:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Alberta's Child
really mass transit: Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

29 posted on 04/15/2009 12:04:30 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: yankeedame

They didn’t do it all at once lol


30 posted on 04/15/2009 12:08:10 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Why are people in CUBA committing suicide? They have free healthcare and all.....................


31 posted on 04/15/2009 12:09:32 PM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: yankeedame
That was what I mentioned earlier. These are individual suicides, with individual reasons for the same, but largely related to debts.


You must remember roughly 70% of India's adult population are farmers, and it won't be a big coincidence that most people who commit suicide, are farmers as well.

Like I said, the whole article is based on journalistic word-play. They are making it sound as if it was one of those Jonestown-esque mass-suicides.


Comparative statistics:


32 posted on 04/15/2009 12:11:14 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

IIRC, that photo was of a train carrying refugees from Bangladesh into India, during the Bangladesh War in 1971.


33 posted on 04/15/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: LibWhacker
Bharatendu Prakash, from the Organic Farming Association of India, told the Press Association: "Farmers' suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death."

Mr Prakash added that the government ought to take up the cause of the poor farmers just as they fight for a strong economy.

Usury and bankruptcy laws sound like a good idea.

34 posted on 04/15/2009 12:17:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: bmwcyle
What does the the red area have in common?

Looking at the entire map, I'd say that religious beliefs play a large role.

35 posted on 04/15/2009 12:19:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Alos, 1500 people out of a billion is not a very large number to be freaking out about. More people die than that in the USA from slips and falls at home. And they didn’t happen all at once, desapite how some people want to read it into the story.


36 posted on 04/15/2009 12:19:33 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Moonman62

I don’t hink the Japanese, Iranians and Spanish share much religious parity.


37 posted on 04/15/2009 12:21:27 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: bigjoesaddle

“I like your term “hopeychangey “. I will use it, and the’s nothing you can do about it.”

LOL! Not a problem, since I “borrowed” the term from another FReeper.


38 posted on 04/15/2009 12:22:01 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

You’re right. Their lives were meaningless. Sorry to have interrupted your ball game.


39 posted on 04/15/2009 12:22:36 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Materialism + lack of sincere Christian belief = hopelessness —> suicide


40 posted on 04/15/2009 12:24:15 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
IIRC, that photo was of a train carrying refugees from Bangladesh into India, during the Bangladesh War in 1971.

Then why are the wearing the latest in dhoti and kurta fashions? The kid hanging from the front is wearing an ensemble from the Deepika Govind winter resort 2007 collection.

41 posted on 04/15/2009 12:28:25 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Look at the picture again, most are Muslim Bengalis wearing white scull-caps.


42 posted on 04/15/2009 12:33:16 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: B-Chan
You’re right. Their lives were meaningless. Sorry to have interrupted your ball game.

Don't be a dumb ass, i know you are better than that. I didn't say meaningless, I din't even imply that.

43 posted on 04/15/2009 12:33:59 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: LibWhacker

Now, if only their software houses would follow suit.


44 posted on 04/15/2009 12:40:15 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: LibWhacker
Private water, public misery Privatisation of water is taking root in India, often aided by political and bureaucratic corruption. Alongside, resistance to this is also building up.
45 posted on 04/15/2009 12:45:44 PM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2307/stories/20060421007101000.htm


46 posted on 04/15/2009 12:46:57 PM PDT by anglian
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To: ConservativeMan55

lol actually clintons fault with his special deals with monsanto they sold them the bad seed


47 posted on 04/15/2009 12:53:54 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: B-Chan
"I don’t get it."

IMHO, the media chose its battles.

48 posted on 04/15/2009 1:06:00 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: LibWhacker

I imagine a lot of this is going on throughout India, Like a new gold rush. Putting good soil and water into..... cars: India’s Chhattisgarh state completes plantation of 100 million jatropha saplings; 1 million hectares planted by 2012
In India, the Chhattisgarh state minister for forests said that the planting of 100 million jatropha saplings on 40,000 hectares throughout the state has been completed. The state spent $15.1 million on the project, which will ultimately plant 1 million hectares of fallow land with jatropha by 2012, and create 1.43 billion in revenue from the sale of biodiesel.
http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/blog2/2009/02/12/indias-chhattisgarh-state-completes-plantation-of-100-million-jatropha-saplings-1-million-hectares-planted-by-2012/


49 posted on 04/15/2009 1:12:19 PM PDT by anglian
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To: LibWhacker

considering the downward spiral of the economy, could this have been organized by an enterprising mortician?


50 posted on 04/15/2009 1:58:00 PM PDT by sten
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