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Perry fires up anti-tax crowd (Gov says Texas can leave union if it wants to)
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Posted on 04/15/2009 3:19:47 PM PDT by Crazieman

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To: Nervous Tick
I would have loved to hear him say “Here is what I have told Obama and here is what I will tell Obama and here are specifics as to how I’m going to govern Texas toward small government and liberty”.

Never tell your enemy what you plan to do. If Governor Perry had announced any "particulars", he would be telling the federal government of his plans.

101 posted on 04/15/2009 6:13:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ThunderStruck94

Than we need to secede now cause if we go blue it will be too late.


102 posted on 04/15/2009 6:29:58 PM PDT by Halls (This nation needs Jesus!)
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To: Halls

“Than we need to secede now...”

The blues singer cooked eggs for breakfast.


103 posted on 04/15/2009 6:46:08 PM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Economy Died)
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To: Halls

No one will do jack......it is too late.


104 posted on 04/15/2009 6:51:49 PM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: Aggie Mama

Yes, Houston is not too cold in the winter. Of course, it’s awful humid. IIRC, the grass in the Houston area is even greener than the grass in the UK and the ‘Emerald isle’....


105 posted on 04/15/2009 6:52:32 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: euram
Perry and Palin should team up, and lead their states out of the union. Being the biggest energy producing states, they would have the US over a barrel.

Now, THAT is a pun. :-)

106 posted on 04/15/2009 7:10:56 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Entrepreneur

Wow. Wishing some hurt on OU and LSU, huh?

(Fingers crossed for Sherm and the crew this fall.)


107 posted on 04/15/2009 7:18:12 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Caipirabob

I am ready to go.


108 posted on 04/15/2009 7:27:27 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Crazieman

Kind of makes you want to move to Texas, huh?


109 posted on 04/15/2009 7:35:49 PM PDT by adlucem (NObama)
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To: rahbert

“what will I do with my snowblower?”

If you lived in West Texas like I do, you can use it to blow the sand of your front porch.


110 posted on 04/15/2009 7:37:33 PM PDT by barry_lee (I'll be pro-choice when a fetus rapes and kills.)
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To: nhwingut

If it doesn’t get him in legal trouble.


111 posted on 04/15/2009 7:47:06 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: nhwingut
There goes any shot at the presidency.

Do you HONESTLY believe they are planning any future elections???

112 posted on 04/15/2009 8:33:06 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Nervous Tick
"Rick Perry is NOT presidential material."

Some state employees that I know don't think that he's gubernatorial stock either.

113 posted on 04/15/2009 8:47:21 PM PDT by matthew fuller (January 20, 2009 - A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Aria

Hey we have a saying down here. If you don’t like the weather, wait 5 minutes and it will change. On a spring or fall day, you can have a blizzard in Amarillo and beach weather in Corpus Christi. Pick your poison. I prefer East Texas. Sweat weather for 8 months and sweater weather for 4 months. Plus we don’t have a state income tax. Right to work state. Good hunting for deer, dove and pigs. Awesome fishing fresh or salt water. OK I am biased, but I was born here, grew up here, lived in CA, AZ, NJ, AL and LA. but eventually came back. Not leaving for anything. Plan to live here till I die. Bury me here and that’s that. Not meaning to be harsh. Just expressing my experiences of life.


114 posted on 04/15/2009 8:53:25 PM PDT by Texas resident
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
"Chuck Norris for President of Texas!"

Ted Nugent for President of The Republic of Texas!

115 posted on 04/15/2009 8:55:35 PM PDT by matthew fuller (January 20, 2009 - A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Red Boots
Wherebouts ? I like wide open and empty, but not too hot. I'd miss snow, too.

Search the MLS for property in the far northern counties of Texas, along the Red River, or just south. Lots of inexpensive land there.

North Texas is pretty conservative, has tons of space, and it does get snow in the winter. Can't promise you won't get hot in the summer, but that's what A/C is for ;-)

116 posted on 04/15/2009 9:02:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: expatpat
Sounds good, but where do I go for warm winters and cool summers?

San Diego, California. If you can stomach the imploding infrastructure of the state. San Diego itself is very conservative. Duncan Hunter country.

117 posted on 04/15/2009 9:09:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ThunderStruck94
Texas WILL turn blue within 4 years!

Not likely, but I can understand your saying that if you're surrounded by foreign illegals. They're an unfortunate reality of all border states.

118 posted on 04/15/2009 9:10:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Texas resident

I’ve heard that saying before...when I was in Calgary. I figured that when there I’d have to wear my snowsuit over my bikini. Really strange weather!

I live in Oregon and like it except for the part between New Year’s and the end of February. It’s not humid here ever and the scenery is spectacular. However I think we now have the highest unemployment in the US. Property taxes are high to make up for no sales tax. We do have an income tax.

I know it’s just talk but if any state were to declare its independence it would be Texas. Lots of proud Texans out there and I wouldn’t mind braving the bugs and the humidity to join up if it ever happened.


119 posted on 04/15/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Hodar

As a semi-wealthy person, living in the mid-west.... I’d have to agree with you: I would give up ALL, including my life to defend Texas.

I seriously do NOT feel that way (at the moment) about the US. But, Texas is.... me. And, I am Texas.

No matter where you go... or, how long you are away. If you are “Texan”, it’s your blood. And, we gladly accept all others... (have, for 175 years)... who think like Texans do. Come one, come all..... Defend this great State!


120 posted on 04/15/2009 9:20:33 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Rick Perry is NOT presidential material.

Understatement of the century. In 2006 he couldn't even win 40% of the state. In 2010, I don't think he'll make it out of the primary. Hutchison will be the next governor, barring the Democrats getting their act together and running somebody that can unite the 60% of the people who voted against Perry in 2006.

Hutchison will point out every crooked thing he's done and how he's had 8 years to be a Conservative and only now decided to be one when he's actually facing the prospect of losing an election.
121 posted on 04/15/2009 9:55:50 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Which part of Texas has cool summers?


122 posted on 04/15/2009 10:03:12 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

Austin has about 100 degrees from July to September. The upper panhandle is cooler, as it’s geographically about the same latitude as northern Oklahoma. Most of Texas, though, you can count on three digits for about half the summer.


123 posted on 04/15/2009 10:06:33 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: af_vet_rr

That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.


124 posted on 04/15/2009 10:09:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball
That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Senator Hutchison.
125 posted on 04/15/2009 10:17:54 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Richard Kimball
That’s what I thought, but I know a bunch of people that two years ago would “never vote for Rick Perry again” that have done 180s. You don’t realize what bad is until Obama gets elected.

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Senator Hutchison.
126 posted on 04/15/2009 10:17:54 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jacquej
In the middle of summer, it's actually quite nice in the Davis Mountains.
127 posted on 04/15/2009 10:21:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog (Choose your allies carefully.)
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To: smokingfrog

Indeed. We’ll be coming home soon.


128 posted on 04/15/2009 11:17:48 PM PDT by publana (Massive Chicharones dump time!)
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To: jacquej

Cool summers, that is asking a lot. I never expected anyone to want cool summers, but your best chance for close to that would be the northern panhandle or a summer cabin in the mountains of New Mexico.


129 posted on 04/16/2009 5:36:52 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: meandog
You said: “Texas still produces a lot of oil and I don't believe that Mr. 0bama is going to forgo that needed resource to help pay for his grandiose plans.”

You also said: “for Lincoln it was all about preserving the union.”

"Preserving the union" is the euphemism that historians have adopted to rationalize Lincoln's attacks on the South.

He wanted to maintain access to Southern cotton and the Mississippi. That is why he sent the warships to Charleston and Pensacola.

130 posted on 04/16/2009 6:40:07 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Spktyr
You said: “....the South probably would have been left to go their own way if that IDIOT Chesnut hadn’t opened fire on Fort Sumter. He should have starved them out and taken their surrender afterwards.”

Two corrections. First, Col. James Chestnut (see your spelling please) was only charged with delivering the request for surrender to Ft. Sumter by the Confederate government. He did so. The commander in charge, with the responsibility to order the firing on Ft. Sumter was General G. T. Beauregard. He gave the order, not Chestnut.

You should also consider that these people were at least just as intelligent as you.

It is well documented that the Union troops that landed at Ft. Sumter were fed for months by the Charleston officials. This was done as a good will effort by the Confederacy while they tried to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the issue. They stopped the food shipments when they learned from their contacts in Washington and the New York newspapers that they were about to be invaded by the Union navy.

In early April, Lincoln ordered a “secret mission” to provide food and reinforcements to both Ft. Sumter and the Union garrison at Pensacola.

When the officials in Charleston found out that the Union was sending warships to Charleston, the issue of “starvation and surrender” became impossible.

Beauregard offered a peaceful resolution to Anderson. He refused. The Union ships gathered outside the harbor and Beauregard, on orders from Davis, opened fire to stop the invasion of the harbor.

131 posted on 04/16/2009 6:59:01 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: af_vet_rr
Hutchison will point out every crooked thing he's done and how he's had 8 years to be a Conservative and only now decided to be one when he's actually facing the prospect of losing an election.

...and what are some of the "crooked" things he has done?

132 posted on 04/16/2009 7:24:09 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

It is impossible not to have Texas pride. Texas history focused more on what was great about Texas and less on the mistakes.

And just to hammer it home, we learned songs:

“The stars at night, are big and bright....deep in the heart of Texas!”


133 posted on 04/16/2009 8:50:42 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: jacquej
Which part of Texas has cool summers?

Galveston.... it's an island, and that moderates the temp. :-)

134 posted on 04/16/2009 9:18:14 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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To: Aria

No worries. This is the most air conditioned state in the Union. And the mosquitos are not near as big as Canada or Minnesota. Best of luck on however you go. But you will have to ditch the snowsuit.


135 posted on 04/16/2009 1:11:19 PM PDT by Texas resident
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
...and what are some of the "crooked" things he has done?

He tried to issue an executive order forcing every young girl to be vaccinated for something that should have been left up to the parents, since the vaccine dealt with something that was sexually transmitted. The "crooked part" is that the company that Perry would have had doing the vaccines donated money to his campaign, and had hired one of Perry's close friends to handle its Texas business and lobbying. In addition to it relating to something that was sexually transmitted, it would have been expensive, since the company that had hired Perry's good buddy was also the only provider of the vaccine, and it would have cost Texas taxpayers a pretty penny since not all could afford it - $300 or more per girl.

Then there is the Trans-Texas Corridor that Perry is trying to push through. I don't know where to start there, but let's try.

A European-owned company (Spain's Cintra) is the prime contractor (they did buy a piece of a Texas-owned company so that they could pretend to have Texas ties). There were plenty of no-bid contracts floating around (something you'd expect out of a Democrat, but preferably not a Republican). It would be the largest land grab by the government in our lifetimes, and a lot of the land that would be taken from private home, farm, and ranch owners would then be placed in the hands of other private entities (toll road authorities, construction companies, restaurants, etc.). Perry has refused time and again to release certain terms of the 50 year contract with the European-based company. Then there's Perry's connections - one of his good friends is a major consultant/lobbyist for the European-based company, and Perry made sure to appoint friends to the Texas Transportation Commission. Perry's good buddy Rudy Giuliani, his law firm was involved in some of the proceedings covering the TTC as well. Opposition? Even the state GOP in 2006 opposed Perry's plans.

Then you have the state lottery. A company that has one of Perry's closest friends as a top executive, Phil Gramm (also a former Democrat turned Republican), was consulting with Perry's office about selling the state lottery to a private organization. That company, in addition to having Phil Gramm on board, also happened to hire Rick Perry's son right in the middle of all of that.

Those are all things you expect out of sleazeball Democrats (that and a crummy grasp of Texas' history).
136 posted on 04/16/2009 1:39:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: SomeCallMeTim

AMERICAN BY BIRTH,TEXAN BY CHOICE!


137 posted on 04/16/2009 6:53:35 PM PDT by screaming eagle2
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To: af_vet_rr

This may come as a surprise to you but achievers usually associate themselves with like achievers. Do you not do business with your friends?

As for the forcing all young girls to be so called vaccinated against a horrible form of cancer; which my daughter has and all females are susceptible...what could be wrong with that?

Unless all of your female offspring remain virgins you may share in our family’s plight.


138 posted on 04/16/2009 7:16:35 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Crazieman

I still think Perry will lose his renomination bid in March 2010. I wonder if is rhetoric at the “tea parties” is sincere. People in TX can easily fall for insincere politicians, and that may mean one KBH herself!


139 posted on 04/17/2009 4:13:25 AM PDT by Theodore R. (GWB is gone: Now the American sheeple can sleep at night!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
This may come as a surprise to you but achievers usually associate themselves with like achievers. Do you not do business with your friends?

If it was Ann Richards (or any other Democrat), would you have felt comfortable with her sending millions (and even billions) of dollars to companies that conveniently hired her family members, friends and associates?

As for the forcing all young girls to be so called vaccinated against a horrible form of cancer; which my daughter has and all females are susceptible...what could be wrong with that?

Rick Perry should have left something like that up to the legislature - it's not his decision whether or not to force everybody to vaccinate against something that is sexually transmitted.

Regardless of all of that, Perry has been backtracking like crazy on his secession talk. He's throwing a lot of people "under the bus" as they say, since he's been trying to take back what he said.
140 posted on 04/18/2009 7:18:02 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ThunderStruck94
No one will do jack......it is too late.

Plus it's illegal to secede. Even Perry is now admitting that it's illegal - he's been making the rounds trying to backtrack on what he said.

As far as the secession talk, some Texans find it insulting. My son, who is in the Marines and over in Afghanistan, was none too happy about it, saying that he and a lot of other Texans signed up to defend the United States, and not just Texas.

Personally, I think he's taking it a little too personal - there's only one other Texan in his platoon, and both of them are barely out of high school, and his Marine buddies were apparently razzing them over it. Kids at that age tend to take things a little more personal than they should.
141 posted on 04/18/2009 7:24:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I met Perry in 1996 and knew all I Learned all I needed to know about him then.

He is now, and will always be, a “lesser of 2 evils” kind of candidate, having no real position other than those that benefit Rick Perry.

His Secession statments weren’t sincere, they only were meant to pull votes away from Hutchison.


142 posted on 04/19/2009 3:58:21 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: jesseam

Montana has a lot going for it . . . except for Yellowstone blowing big time . . . What part of MT? I lived 10 years in Spokane. Backpacked in MT South and east a bit of Whitefish, IIRC.

Texas is supposedly slated to lose a lot south of the panhandle to the ocean.

I was born near Lubbock. Live in 4 Corners now.

Shoot, the Hopi elders say they will have to go from mesa to mesa by canoe and others say that Phoenix will be a seaport.


143 posted on 04/23/2009 2:57:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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