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N.S.A.ís Intercepts Exceed Limits Set by Congress
The New York Times ^ | April 15, 2009 | By ERIC LICHTBLAU and JAMES RISEN

Posted on 04/15/2009 8:27:03 PM PDT by Stars&StripesNE

WASHINGTON — The National Security Agency intercepted private e-mail messages and phone calls of Americans in recent months on a scale that went beyond the broad legal limits established by Congress last year, government officials said in recent interviews.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhonsa; nsa; obama; wiretapping
Several intelligence officials, as well as lawyers briefed about the matter, said the N.S.A. had been engaged in “overcollection” of domestic communications of Americans. They described the practice as significant and systemic, although one official said it was believed to have been unintentional.
1 posted on 04/15/2009 8:27:03 PM PDT by Stars&StripesNE
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Will there be outrage by the Dems? Will they scream about their civil liberties being infringed upon?

Don’t hold your breath. When 0 is in charge... it’s okay.


2 posted on 04/15/2009 8:30:05 PM PDT by Stars&StripesNE
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Barack did say he was going to end the threat of privacy...


3 posted on 04/15/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by benjibrowder (I keep praying for hope and change, but I open my eyes and Obama is still President.)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Late night reading in the ‘family quarters’ at 1600 Penn Ave, Wash, DC.


4 posted on 04/15/2009 8:39:30 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

ACLU where are you?

Oh wait, its Obama, so you will just go back to protecting child molesters, Muslims, terrorist, atheist and anti-christians.


5 posted on 04/15/2009 8:51:17 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Stars&StripesNE

“The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact — as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 — with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance”

oic


6 posted on 04/15/2009 8:52:33 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Stars&StripesNE
Must be trying to trap some of those Rightwing Extremists.
7 posted on 04/15/2009 8:52:56 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

I would bet that every email, Internet message and phone call of Americans is monitored, but by overseas signal stations for the US.


8 posted on 04/15/2009 8:53:11 PM PDT by conservativefromGa
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Narrow it down lol.


9 posted on 04/15/2009 8:53:52 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Stars&StripesNE
Hey, thats HOPE & CHANGE.

The Obama Fascists are taking names and making lists for their soon to be fored "GIVE" LAw funded neighborhood watches.

Bring it on fascists Zerobots. We are ready for ya!

10 posted on 04/15/2009 8:55:14 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

The truth is always there, in the article. You just have to look for it.

Here it is.

“new details are also emerging about earlier domestic-surveillance activities, including the agency’s attempt to wiretap a member of Congress, without court approval, on an overseas trip, current and former intelligence officials said.”


11 posted on 04/15/2009 8:55:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

No wonder Obama won’t let Pelosi and her thugs prosecute Bush et al. This is exactly what they want to go after Bush over and Obama’s NSA is doing it more illegally than Bush’s ever did. Too damn funny.


12 posted on 04/15/2009 8:56:13 PM PDT by adlucem (NObama)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Doesn’t anyone have the intelligence to say that perhaps we have a helluva lot more terrorists, criminals and their supporters in the US than previously thought, which is why more wiretapps/intercepts were needed.

This is especially true with the growth of Mexican drug cartel gangs in the US (notice that they have their greatest strengths in Democrat Party controlled cities).

Obama and his administration are the enemies of America as much as those under surveillance. In fact, some of his political supporters might just show up in future trials, and I say this based on many decades of researching and investigating the Left and the PLO/jihadists.


13 posted on 04/15/2009 8:56:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: conservativefromGa
I would bet that every email, Internet message and phone call of Americans is monitored, but by overseas signal stations for the US.

Carnivore.

14 posted on 04/15/2009 8:56:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

I have a few ideas as to who this could be...


15 posted on 04/15/2009 8:57:51 PM PDT by benjibrowder (I keep praying for hope and change, but I open my eyes and Obama is still President.)
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To: conservativefromGa

That’s not even physically possible.

But don’t let that stop you.


16 posted on 04/15/2009 9:00:24 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Where’s the outrage?


17 posted on 04/15/2009 9:04:24 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: conservativefromGa

It’s felt by those in charge that recording phone calls, emails..etc is OK. Then if the need arises they can get a court order to actually pull up a call or email later.

If a phone call is recorded at Fort Meade but never listened to...was it actually a violation of privacy??


18 posted on 04/15/2009 9:05:01 PM PDT by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Baghdad Bonior, or Jihad Jim McDermott?


19 posted on 04/15/2009 9:05:48 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

I hope,they enjoyed the jokes, I sent my friends.


20 posted on 04/15/2009 9:08:25 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Stars&StripesNE
You can bet your sweet bippee the Obamatons know the real name and the address of every member of Freerepublic by now.

Count on it.

21 posted on 04/15/2009 9:10:28 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Stars&StripesNE
... said the intelligence officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because N.S.A. activities are classified.

Uhhh, I don't think leaking something classified is made "ok" by doing it anonymously.

22 posted on 04/15/2009 9:19:05 PM PDT by jz638
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To: Stars&StripesNE
...in recent months...

Hmmm... must be acting on a "tip" from DHS...

23 posted on 04/15/2009 9:33:47 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (His Excellency Barack Hussein Obama, Head of Government, Duce of Fascism,and Destroyer of Capitalism)
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To: benjibrowder

Who might that be?

0bama is compiling his “enemies list”. Most of the Republicans have been “compromised” for a long time, I’m sure.


24 posted on 04/15/2009 9:44:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Mariner

“You can bet your sweet bippee the Obamatons know the real name and the address of every member of Freerepublic by now.
Count on it.”

F U B 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 04/15/2009 9:49:08 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Mariner
"You can bet your sweet bippee the Obamatons know the real name and the address of every member of Freerepublic by now."

I want my pony.
26 posted on 04/15/2009 9:51:01 PM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: Stars&StripesNE
Holy cow! wonder who this could have been

And in one previously undisclosed episode, the N.S.A. tried to wiretap a member of Congress without a warrant, an intelligence official with direct knowledge of the matter said. The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact — as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 — with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance, the official said. The agency then sought to eavesdrop on the congressman’s conversations, the official said. The official said the plan was ultimately blocked because of concerns from some intelligence officials about using the N.S.A., without court oversight, to spy on a member of Congress.

27 posted on 04/15/2009 10:50:51 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Stars&StripesNE

It does appear it happened this year too- “in recent months...” The one todbit that is interestig- the Congressman who met with terrorist and was listened to... Probably should be in Gitmo too.


28 posted on 04/16/2009 12:15:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Rendell to call for gun ban 4/15/09 http://kdka.com/local/Governor.Ed.Rendell.2.984771.html)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Maybe they should ask for another plan and get “roll-over” minutes:)


29 posted on 04/16/2009 1:45:23 AM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: UCANSEE2
a member of Congress, without court approval, on an overseas trip,

Didn't Pelosi just go to Italy to meet with the Pope within the last month or so?

30 posted on 04/16/2009 1:49:50 AM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: All

Let ‘em listen. If they bugged me, they might find out my secret hole for trout, or my secret ingredient in my chili.


31 posted on 04/16/2009 3:37:17 AM PDT by Justeggsactly
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To: rfp1234

how bout Keith Ellison?


32 posted on 04/16/2009 5:39:01 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: Stars&StripesNE

why do I get the feeling this is because us right wing extremists ARF are being monitored

waves out of window to Janet’s mob


33 posted on 04/16/2009 5:56:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Candor7

Personally, I think you have only gotten a part of what the administration is doing. They are using the argument that NSA is overstepping its bounds to curtail terrorist surveillance. At the same time they intend to use NSA to identify those who are real and potential political threats to their Washington power.

The Tea Parties will accelerate this process.


34 posted on 04/16/2009 6:20:59 AM PDT by dools007
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Here is the bombshell in this report:

“The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact — as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 — with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance, the official said. The agency then sought to eavesdrop on the congressman’s conversations, the official said.”

hmmmmm...’OIL FOR FOOD’ scandal anyone?


35 posted on 04/16/2009 6:24:55 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Lorianne
Here's a starting point:

So Which Member of Congress Was Wiretapped?


;-)
36 posted on 04/16/2009 7:32:13 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: dools007
Agreed. And those who are picked oout will have their tax returns audited and back audited, for starters.

Thats what Clinton did with his most effective political opponents. Obama will do the same only worse, because the MSM will refuse to cover the fact that the audits are all of conservative "right wing extremists." People shold be preparing for this and organize the disclosure of it for all to see.

37 posted on 04/16/2009 9:03:57 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: Stars&StripesNE

Who coulda thunk it?

Barry said he would end privacy. He must a done so a while back.

Crooks, criminals, tax cheats, all privy to our private lives and info.

This administration needs to go ASAP.


38 posted on 04/16/2009 9:07:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Lorianne
a member of congress....whose identity could not be determined

Ya, soz we noz vut eet wuz jest notten on whoozizit.

You know things are getting really tough at the old gray unshaved lady when she has to outsource their leak writers.

39 posted on 04/16/2009 9:52:19 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (And on the 5th day& 18th pleading, ghett0 finally agreed to allow the Navy to save the captain.)
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To: Candor7

My tax situation is an open book. But I bet that won’t matter. The Onada machine will trump up something that will force me to hire a lawyer to disprove a double negative.

You can bet the Tea Party movement will result in The Marxist Onada accelerating his plans to monitor his opposition.

Quite frankly, I’m pleasantly surprised at the speed and effectiveness of the push back to The Messiah’s efforts to communize the country. But I fear he and his crowd will not go quietly into the night when the time comes.


40 posted on 04/16/2009 10:30:42 AM PDT by dools007
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