Skip to comments.Obama's NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush!
Posted on 04/16/2009 8:43:52 AM PDT by papasmurf
I have been reading the many different articles today on the NSA's eavesdropping activity.
It's appalling, to me, that the occupier of the White House would allow such a practice to continue, especially after campaigning on the promise of: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!"
Now, since being elected, by hiding his Birth Certificate and lying in nearly everything he promised, he proves himself the Socialist and liar that he truly is.
0bama has steadfastly defended President Bush's wiretapping program, and, in fact, 0bama has increased the wiretaps! All the while staking claim to his own brand new cry of State Secrets.
Today's headlines read: NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program , and U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits , and NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans.
By his ignorance or action, he has, once again, shown us that his vote on our Country is...
Not surprising, as he considers the only real terrorists to be American conservatives.
The left couldn’t care less. Anything for the glory of big brother!
I wonder how long it will be before Freepers make Janet’s list of threats.
“Not surprising, as he considers the only real terrorists to be American conservatives.”
Exactly. This guy will make Nixon look like a boy scout.
Hey dude whats up? Hows the new dog ? Have your arm wrested the first lady yet?
They already are, look at your router logs. See anything new there?
I wished I had thought of that when I made the post, it’d be in there, too! LOL
My tech engineer* children sent me this:
“In Warrentless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ New Argument Worse Than Bush
We had hoped this would go differently.
Friday evening, in a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, EFF’s litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping of countless Americans, the Obama Administration’s made two deeply troubling arguments.
First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They argue that simply allowing the case to continue “would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security.” As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence...”
*I have to get that “engineer” word in every post about them since I have three of them and am very proud of them...
King Obama is not a socialists but a hard core communists. It may take a while to understand this, but it he a pure corrupt nitwit that moves in steps with the help of those in his communistic Administration. Wake up, America!
We agree on everything but let’s not forget Bush’s role in undermining our privacy. The sooner that conservatives realize that both Obama and Bush were the culprits in this, the better.
We’re already on the list.
Did you win?
Did I win
Is there any way that one can detect that one is being watched? I do not have an in home router, and US Hughes Net Satellite ISP.
Hard to believe.
At least with Bush, you could trust that he wasn’t tapping the phones of those Americans that disagreed with him.
Not so with ‘Hitler.
No, did the dude beat MicHELLe at arm wrestling?
Here are 2 more examples it came out they are listening way over legal limits and want to watch you too!
There are a slew of network monitor and packet analyzer/sniffers on the market that do just that. Also you can use the command line to query traffic in and out of your pc, such as netstat and trace route, etc.
MS has a free TCP View app that is ok, and I have used NetMon in the past, as well. On Linux machines, these tools are included and installed by default.
“Have your arm wrested the first lady yet?”
I’ve heard that she is even a better leg wrestler.
Be nice you know they are reading this
Well we do know that Bush tapped the private phone sex conversations of his alleged friends: American soldiers. Again, the problem is the Demopublicans as such. It is time for conservatives to stop being selective and partisan in their defense of the Bill of Rights. Only when they are consistent will they have any credibility.
Gee, that makes me feel better.
Thanks. I will take a first look at TCP view/
That link doesn’t support your claim of “Well we do know that Bush tapped the private phone sex conversations of his alleged friends”.
Haven’t looked but could be interesting. Maybe I should check my blog logs...
I just downloaded and ran TCP View. it’s ok. Right click on an entry to close the connection, run a whois, end the process, or see the properties.
Ican’t get the Who is function to work, its greyed out.
I also have some System4 entries that won’t let me query them. Looks Like I have some work to do.
Nope nothing on my blog logs interesting except someone with the “Government Of The District Of Columbia” looking at the fake IKEA presidential limo picture and the VPC checking on Josh Sugarmann’s FFL.
/sigh guess I’m not enough of a Right Wing Extremist.
Papa smurf — what are router logs and how do I check them
Despite pledges by President George W. Bush and American intelligence officials to the contrary, hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home, according to two former military intercept operators who worked at the giant National Security Agency (NSA) center in Fort Gordon, Georgia.,,,,
US Soldier's 'Phone Sex' Intercepted, Shared Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of "cuts" that were available on each operator's computer.
“Is there any better proof that he is, not only, unqualified, but as well, unfit, to hold this most important office?”
Actually, I didn’t need more proof that the muzzie is unqualified and unfit for office, but thanks for posting this.
“Not so with Hitler.”
Careful that Obama, Dunham, Sotero or whatever his real name is will send his brown shirts after you.
Thanks for the tip. The software works fine after I learned how to use t. I have a lot of bio resident connections I do not understand, but anything hooked up on the net is listed, and can be queried.
Thanks for putting me on to this very handy tool !
Ok, I didn’t see that there was more to the story past the pictures and the caption “Related Stories”. So, now I’ve read it, all 4 pages.
I think it’s blown out of proportion, they admit that they cannot confirm much of it, and the calls are coming from overseas.
But, you fail to mention that...”Some times, Kinne and Faulk said, the intercepts helped identify possible terror planning in Iraq and saved American lives. “ So, we have some folks who say they had a laugh or two at the expensive of an unknowing person, and also say that those sessions helped to save American lives.
Still, my point is, Bush didn’t tap anyone for personal reasons, and this article doesn’t prove, or even allege, that Bush did. I do not trust 0bama will adhere to the same principles. In fact, the opposite is true.
I don’t think your contention that we Conservatives are being selective is a fair statement.
Bush alleged his improper tapping was inadvertent. I believe him.
Bush claimed that tapping callas coming from overseas is legal. I believe him, and the courts have held that to be true.
Bush claimed that Soldiers have no expectation to privacy in the context of performing their duties. I believe him, and the courts have held that to be true, as well. BTW, while serving in a theater of operations, you are on duty 24X7.
I have criticized Bush on many of his shortcomings, most especially TIA/Patriot Act/DHS, but I won’t jump on the bandwagon of populism. He gets the benefit of doubt because he has proven himself a loyal Patriot, regardless of his C/RINOness, 0bama has not.
The story provided eyewitness evidence about the phone sex tapping (which you reject) but you seem to take it on faith that George Bush can be trusted not to tap calls. Why? WDid you also think TARP, the greatest leap to socialism in generations, was the act of a trustworthy man? This zealous support that George Bush, one of the socialist presidents in memory, gets here is really quite remarkable. If the tea-bag movement takes this selective approach, it is doomed to fail and be dismissed as nothing more than a cynical RNC front.
Mine’s not greyed out, but I get errors on some whois queries.
I’ll do some more digging for windows stuff tonight.
If you have a network, that would the device that connects your pc’s to the modem, either by cable or wireless.
The Justice Department confirmed Wednesday that it had reined in the NSA's wiretapping activities in the United States after learning that the agency had improperly accessed American phone calls and e-mails while eavesdropping on foreign communications.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat, said the committee will hold a hearing within a month to look at the NSA's surveillance activities. "We will make sure we get the facts," she said. ( We will make sure to cover up the facts, more like.)
FASCISM, A little bit at a time.This surpasses ANYTHING that Bush had approved,and Obama was complicit, he should be impeached.Nixon was forced to resign for FAR LESS.
Where did the domestic intercept intel. go and why???? Since it was unauthoriced, it cannot be privileged or secret information denied to the public or to the courts as authorized NSA intercepts are.
Where is Senator Leahy now ..Eh???????
I’m getting the feeling that no matter what I say, short of agreeing with you 100%, will suffice. lol
Interesting rationalization to shut off dialogue. when you want to open up your mind, look me up and I'd be happy to have a give and take discussion. On the other hand, if you are looking for someone to march in lockstep for GWB, you probably need to contact Sean Hannnity.
This should come as no surprise, though it is appalling. The Obama administration sees us, you and I and our families, as his enemies. He views us with contempt and seeks to undo everything we hold dear. He wants power and his screaming, uneducated, militant masses are handing it to him. He will use every means at his disposal, legal and illegal. He has no regard for the Constitution and has proven it in fewer than 100 days in office.
By the way, we should all recognize that “right wing extremist” is just code for white people. Pure and simple. It’s an ugly concept, but these are ugly times.
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