He certainly has the Spirit of Antichrist (1 John 4:3).
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
Posted on 04/16/2009 3:18:40 PM PDT by tcg
What occurred at Georgetown University is one of those symbolic moments in history which speaks beyond any single incident. The administration literally covered over the Cross of Christ and the “I.H.S.”, both of which were engraved on the backdrop against which the President spoke on the Gaston Hall stage. The reaction to this censorship of Christian signs at a Catholic University was immediate. The associate Vice President of Communications of Georgetown gave her spin: "In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday's event, Georgetown honored the White House staff's request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage… The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they've done for other policy speeches… Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn't high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context."
Out of context? This is a Catholic University! It is clear what was done, the symbol of Christian faith was covered over! The University could have refused!...
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Did it deny the Faith? Yes.
Doesn’t this symbol stand for IN HOC SIGNA, the words that were used in the Crusades against Muslims, that in the sign of the Cross they would win?
Out of all the places the WH could have chosen for a speech they chose there...for a reason. So that he can demonstrate to Islam that even Christianity shows obeisance to him.
What is going on with these Catholic educators? They’re allowing political ideology to replace symbols of their, and our salvation. Shameful.
I know I will probably get flamed for this but...
this is just another in a growing list of things that have kept me from stepping inside the Catholic Church. And yes... I do believe that I have not left the church but the church left me.
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This is madness. These are the leaders of an institution that’s supposed to exhibit strength, moral character, and integrity yet they give a voice to a baby-killer while they cover up the name of God.
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No. It stands for the Holy Name itself, rendered in Greek letters. The Jesuit order makes much of this emblem because it takes the name of the Savior into its own: the Society of Jesus.
The letters are generally thought to be the early Greek abbreviation for the name Jesus Christ (in Greek, of course) which then came back into use in the Latin Church with the development of devotion to the Holy Name of Jesus, which was around the time of the founding of the Jesuits. That’s the reason this symbol was so much used in Jesuit institutions.
Leave it to Obama to say that he won’t speak there unless they deny their faith.
Knights Templar - In Hoc Signo Vinces
The phrase means “in this sign you shall conquer” and was used by Constantine as a military motto in the early 4th Century. The phrase was also used by the original Knights Templar military order that was founded during the Crusades. The Freemasons began using Templar rituals and symbols in the late 1700s.
What was it Jesus said at the Last Supper? “One of you here will Deny Me.”...........looks like the abettors at GTU are gonna burn in hell.
Many people say that, but the Catholic Church is still there. The sad thing now is that you have to find the right priest and the right church; once upon a time, you could have walked into any church and had the priest tell you the right thing, but after 40 years of heresy, this is no longer a certainty.
What diocese do you live in?
Jesuits in general and Georgetown in particular left the Catholic faith long ago. I graduated from 2 different Jesuit schools, but that was long ago. I wouldn’t ave anything to so with them today.
My question is why did he want to make the speech at Georgetown in the first place?
No. A monogram of the name of Jesus Christ. From the third century the names of our Saviour are sometimes shortened, particularly in Christian inscriptions (IH and XP, for Jesus and Christus). In the next century the “sigla” (chi-rho) occurs not only as an abbreviation but also as a symbol. From the beginning, however, in Christian inscriptions the nomina sacra, or names of Jesus Christ, were shortened by contraction, thus IC and XC or IHS and XPS for Iesous Christos. These Greek monograms continued to be used in Latin during the Middle Ages. Eventually the right meaning was lost, and erroneous interpretation of IHS led to the faulty orthography “Jhesus”. In Latin the learned abbreviation IHC rarely occurs after the Carlovingian era. The monogram became more popular after the twelfth century when St. Bernard insisted much on devotion to the Holy Name of Jesus, and the fourteenth, when the founder of the Jesuati, Blessed John Colombini (d. 1367), usually wore it on his breast. Towards the close of the Middle Ages IHS became a symbol, quite like the chi-rho in the Constantinian period. In hoc signo vinces is the rendition in Latin of the Greek phrase “εν τούτω νίκα”, en toutÅ nika, meaning “in this [sign] you will conquer”. According to legend, Constantine I adopted this Greek phrase, “εν τούτω νίκα”, as a motto after his vision of a chi rho on the sky just before the Battle of Milvian Bridge against Maxentius in the year 312. The early Christian symbol consists in a monogram composed of the Greek letters chi (X) and rho (P), the first two in the name Christ (Greek: Χριστός) From the Catholic Encyclopedia and Wiki.
See post #4
That's exactly why he did it. And he found a bunch of Judases willing to turn over Our Lord and the Church to him.
I'm really beginning to think he's the Antichrist. I always thought the Antichrist would be intelligent and I ruled out Obama because he's dumb as a post. But ambition, ruthlessness and ego make up for intelligence any day.
Only twice more before the cock crows, Georgetown.
“Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn’t high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context.”
Whenever someone says “frankly,” I naturally suspect that he is lying.
Remember when Georgetown put the crucifixes back up in the classrooms,three or four years ago?
Did you know that it was Muslims that led the movement to put them back up? I recall that one of the leaders,who was a Muslim said that he and others were there because the education was excellent and they were smart enough to recognize that the school was Catholic and had every right and perhaps even an obligation to display all of the sacred symbols of their religion. He said they would never hide the Muslim symbols and neither should we. The crucifixes were put back up.
Georgetown is Jesuit, not Catholic.
I am certain if Obama spoke at a mosque there would be no attempt to cover up anything. This is pathetic..a so-called Catholic university that would willingly cover up a symbol of the faith. It is equally pathetic that the abortionist in chief would be given a forum at a Catholic university.
I certainly agree. There can be wild swings in ideological balance from one parish to the next, but especially from one diocese to the next. The fact of the matter, some bishops are just better and more faithful than others.
I'm not old enough to know if this has anything to do with the Second Vatican Council (my mother certainly thinks so), but I do know it's a phenomenon that's been occurring since I was an adult, back in the '80s.
An inside joke that only Catholics would get.
Georgetown is about as Catholic as Princeton is Presbyterian.
What;s the ironical phrase:” In the Jesuit tradition.” it has lost its connection with St. Ignatius.
No, he isn’t THE Antichrist (there are many reasons, one of which is I believe the antichrist has to come out of the roman empire in some way). But he is definitely AN antichrist, of which there have been, are, and will be many more (anyone who rejects Jesus is AN antichrist.)
However, he may VERY WELL be the precursor to THE Antichrist, in that he is doing everything he can to ruin the USA and bring us to the edge of the one world government that comes about with the Antichrist.
Out of all the places the WH could have chosen for a speech they chose there...for a reason. So that he can demonstrate to Islam that even Christianity shows obeisance to him.
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I hadn’t thought of that. You’re probably right!
This is madness. These are the leaders of an institution that’s supposed to exhibit strength, moral character, and integrity yet they give a voice to a baby-killer while they cover up the name of God.
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Agreed. VERY well said.
I doubt many camel jockeys in ME are aware of what Georgetown is.
I probably won't make any friends, but I think this "Jesuit tradition" has really taken on an arrogance about itself. I know plenty of people that feel their Jesuit education is superior in some way to my Brother's of the Holy Cross education.
In some strange, perverted way, they've elevated "Jesuit" above all other things Catholic. And in the process, they've abandoned some foundational principles of the Catholic Church. JMHO.
You're so right. He wouldn't dare cover a muslim symbol, it would be showing disrespect to Islam. And he has Christian symbolism covered up for the very same reason: to avoid disrespect to Islam.
True, in many ways.
I have a Jesuit education, and it’s a great education, but these are the folks who believe Liberation Theology is above all else.
At those Jesuit institutions, I learned to stop receiving sacraments (in my youth).
Denying (or covering up) the Most Holy Name of Jesus is never a good thing. We are quickly entering a period in our country’s history were we will be forced to choose sides in the coming battle.
Choose wisely.
Just wait until 0bama speaks at Notre Dame! He will have them cover up Touchdown Jesus.
“Many people say that, but the Catholic Church is still there. The sad thing now is that you have to find the right priest and the right church; once upon a time, you could have walked into any church and had the priest tell you the right thing, but after 40 years of heresy, this is no longer a certainty.”
Well said. Combine the nauseating entitlement of the 1960’s and the explosive changes emanating from Second Vatican Council and they together morally poisoned 75% of the US’s parish priests.
He certainly has the Spirit of Antichrist (1 John 4:3).
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
“My question is why did he want to make the speech at Georgetown in the first place?”
So he could postpone visitng ND & IA flood damage or have another ‘event’ to obfuscate why he didn’t throw out a 1st MLB pitch?
/ ridicule.
I apologize. I should have distanced that and made it more general.
It seems that every time I turn around, there is another church not standing strong. That is why I have not stepped foot in a church in years. I just happen to be Catholic which ... well, nuff said.
sorry.
Jesus said, if you deny me, I’ll deny you to My Father. Surely, being a Catholic University, they know bible scripture.
No apology necessary.
That’s interesting (and pretty sad!). I remember when Catholic colleges all over New York State took down their crucifixes and destroyed their Lourdes Grottos so they could qualify for more state aid back in the 1970s.
Damned straight!
Everyone who acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my heavenly Father. But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father."
Mt 10:24-33
You'd think a herd of Jesuits could figure that one out!
And here is the thing: Rome is against LT because it promotes class warfare (same with unions.) But Jesuits seem to dig class division and why wouldn't they? Elitists are nothing without it.
I know quite a bit about Georgetown, so I will try to answer that.
Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown is arguably the most prestigious school of its type in the country. Bill Clinton graduated there. Every modern president has spoken there in Gaston Hall, a stunningly beautiful auditorium.
What better place for Obama to put Christianity in its place?
However, Hussein needs the prestige of speaking there a LOT more than Georgetown University needs him.
The damage is done.
I resemble that remark!
St. Ignatius High School, Class of '56...
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