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RASMUSSEN POLL: 375 TEXANS WOULD VOTE TO STAY IN USA (That is 75% of the 500 survey participants)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 04-17-2009 | DRUDGE

Posted on 04/17/2009 8:19:03 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

Texas Survey of 500 Likely Voters

Conducted April 16, 2009

By Rasmussen Reports

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; secession; texas
Rasmussen SHAM Survey is based on ONLY 500 LIKELY VOTERS! A whole 375 Texans would want to stay in the USA (75%), while a Whopping 125 Texans would want Secede (25%). Margin of error is 4.5% (that's 22.5 Texans)

THIS IS NOT HEADLINE NEWS or STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT! Don't you see what a SHAM this survey is, which is based on ONLY 500 LIKELY VOTERS!

1 posted on 04/17/2009 8:19:03 AM PDT by broken_arrow1
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To: broken_arrow1

They didn’t call me... darn.


2 posted on 04/17/2009 8:21:14 AM PDT by Grumpybutt
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To: broken_arrow1

Oh my, your not questioning this are you? I think I should call DHS.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Btw I do not now nor have I EVER had any firearms....or knives...or pipes......or bad thoughts......


4 posted on 04/17/2009 8:22:44 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: VaRepublican

“Oh my, your not questioning this are you? I think I should call DHS.”

Don’t bother calling, I will just shout for DHS outside my back door.


5 posted on 04/17/2009 8:23:45 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give to my country)
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To: VaRepublican
I think I should call DHS.

I realize you are being sarcastic, but this may be exactly the reason 375 said "NO."

6 posted on 04/17/2009 8:24:04 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court house.....................America's Axis of Evil!)
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To: broken_arrow1
"Hello, this is the Department of Homeland Sec.... errrr excuse me, this is Rasmussen calling to poll you about whether you are an extreme right-wing racist who wants to revolt against Obama... errr... do you want to secede from the Union?"

Given the climate that Obama has put out there in Ameica I wonder how many said no just because they didn't want any trouble from the feds?

7 posted on 04/17/2009 8:24:25 AM PDT by avacado
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To: broken_arrow1

What a poll. It looks like most of the respondents were bloggers on the Houston Chronicle website. Check out that POS blogsite sometimes at www.chron.com . Particularly check back for blogs by a guy who thinks he is Eric Clapton. His name on there is eljefebob. He has a Mini Me clone called desperado who thinks he is Clint Eastwood. They are the most vile liberal spewers in Texas. They delete posts all the time.

The poll must have been taken at the Chronicle or in Austin.


8 posted on 04/17/2009 8:25:05 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: avacado

So basically 50% of THE USA needs to go underground.


9 posted on 04/17/2009 8:26:41 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Could they have made the sample size any smaller? maybe call 7 poeople. What a joke.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 8:27:50 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: broken_arrow1
I'm not ready to leave the United States at this point.

But another decade of Obama style policies of encroaching big government and massive debt that will have to be met with further confiscatory taxation will leave us with little choice.

It will cease to be the United States at that point.

11 posted on 04/17/2009 8:28:53 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: broken_arrow1

The 2007 Population estimate in Texas is 23,904,380. Of a 23,904,380 group, a sample of only 500 was taken? On what planet is 0.002% a representative sample?

Next, who did he ask? Welfare recipients? employed? Illegal Citizens? Registered Democrats?


12 posted on 04/17/2009 8:29:12 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: broken_arrow1

Add me to the list that wants out.


13 posted on 04/17/2009 8:29:24 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: broken_arrow1

I am an American first, a Texan second. However, I have my breaking point, and it is edging closer to it.


14 posted on 04/17/2009 8:30:38 AM PDT by lormand (Paulrhoids - The hemmrhoids of American Politics)
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To: broken_arrow1
Look at the link and look at the rest of the questions and responses.
15 posted on 04/17/2009 8:32:11 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Didn’t we just see this thread a little while ago? LOL...

But — on the issue presented here — when Texas lost the Civil War and was finally forced back into the union, one of the conditions for being allowed back into the union was that secession was no longer valid. And that’s the way it is now. Texas gave up the right of secession after losing the Civil War...


16 posted on 04/17/2009 8:33:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: lormand
I am an American first, a Texan second. However, I have my breaking point, and it is edging closer to it.

Texas will be the first to succeed. Others will eventually follow their lead. The grasshoppers have already outnumbered the ants, and the grasshoppers are still breading. This country cannot sustain itself. It's gonna blow.

17 posted on 04/17/2009 8:35:35 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: broken_arrow1

For everyone else — to see the issue — beat to death in another *recent* thread... you can go here... LOL...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2231413/posts


18 posted on 04/17/2009 8:39:04 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
when Texas lost the Civil War and was finally forced back into the union, one of the conditions for being allowed back into the union was that secession was no longer valid.

From what I read a looooooong time ago, there was a document that was never actually signed (or signed by someone who didn't have the authority?). Back then, it was considered a legal loop hole that would allow Texas to legally escape.

19 posted on 04/17/2009 8:39:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: TheZMan

You said — Add me to the list that wants out.

I’ve heard of a few people moving to New Zealand... :-)


20 posted on 04/17/2009 8:40:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: concerned about politics

Well, I’m sure they had their “Baghdad Bobs” back then, too... :-)


21 posted on 04/17/2009 8:41:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: broken_arrow1
The law is the law. It was illegal for Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Bosnia to leave Yugoslavia. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were Soviet states for "all eternity."

The point is, a majority of Americans have VERY deep and serious problems with a fascist Federal government in Washington D.C. that is owned by Goldman Sachs and run by a bunch of metrosexuals who HATE 95% of the people who are Americans. Its all about them, folks. And, we have become their tax paying serfs. At some point, the shit hits the fan and the people decide enough is enough. Hopefully, this will happen in November of 2010 at the ballot box. But, I'm not holding my breath because every election seems to go 50/50 and then to the leftist courts for award to the Al Frankens of the world.

Ask yourself... do you want to be fellow citizens with people who think Obama and Al Franken are leadership material? I don't.

22 posted on 04/17/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Star Traveler
You said — Add me to the list that wants out.

I'd move to Texas in a heart beat if it happened.

23 posted on 04/17/2009 8:44:11 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: broken_arrow1

No problem. The 375 can move to Arizona, Oklahoma, Louisiana, or Mexico. Problem solved


24 posted on 04/17/2009 8:47:10 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: April Lexington
And, we have become their tax paying serfs.

They see us as their slaves. They force us to pay everyone else's debts before we even see our paychecks. It's as if they throw us a piece of bread twice a day and expect us to be happy about it.

25 posted on 04/17/2009 8:48:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Hodar

it’s legit....just went here.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

It gives you the sample size you would need for a given population. So for a 95% confidence and +/- 4% error you would only need a randomized sample of 600 people for a population of 27 million. Now the issue is, how did they get these 600 people?

Statistics is a beautiful thing.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 8:48:41 AM PDT by TerP26
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To: April Lexington

You were saying — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were Soviet states for “all eternity.”

And that was true for as long as there was a “Soviet Union”... But, as we all know the Soviet Union ceased to exist, as a result of *internally dissolving*... Once that happened, then various different states went their own way.

In this case, you still have a “United States” and a war was fought in which certain states *thought* they had a right to secede — but — found out that they did not have that right, and were forced back into the union and had to swear allegiance to that union and gave up the right to secede.

That’s the situation now.

BUT..., if the United States “internally dissolves” like the Soviet Union did, then all bets are off. As long as the United States exists, however, states will not be allowed to secede.


27 posted on 04/17/2009 8:49:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: broken_arrow1

Well, bad as things are, leaving the Union is kind of a last resort, isn’t it?

Better to take back our country than leave it.

Plus the whole thing seems to have turned into a Rick Perry moment, and I can’t get very enthusiastic about that.


28 posted on 04/17/2009 8:49:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: broken_arrow1

You guys should stop worrying about sample size. Polls are estimates. Nothing wrong with that. All the poll says is that roughly 1/4 of Texans would consider leaving the U.S. Maybe it’s really 30% or 20%. So what? It’s still a very big number.


29 posted on 04/17/2009 8:52:17 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: concerned about politics

“It’s gonna blow”

Want to see why graphically?

Look at this map. Absolutely amazing.

http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/


30 posted on 04/17/2009 8:56:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Star Traveler
Bingo! Another shooting war is insane. But, if states just get fed up and walk away. Stop participating in Federal mandates and programs and follow the Leftist path of civil disobedience, passive resistance and Rosa Parks-like focus on defeating a corrupt power structure. We can achieve this goal. It worked for Dr. Martin Luther King. It worked for Gandhi, Tutu and other civil rights leaders. It worked in Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia and Berlin and lots of other places. Just quit the system and walk away. Demand respect for your rights.

The government will have two choices. Soweto, where they shoot some citizens and then world pressure causes them to cave. Or, peaceful dissolution where we just go our separate ways. The world would LOVE to see the USA dissolve into smaller more manipulative states. Russia has already predicted our dissolution.

For those who still believe in the American Dream, though, you may want to start voting GOP. And, GOP... you may want to find some candidates with IQs above 16...

31 posted on 04/17/2009 8:56:20 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: broken_arrow1

As fair as he is claimed to be (Rasmussen)... this is total BS. I may have been gone for a decade, but ALL of the voices I hear and talk to back in Texas support separating from the ‘union’... unless control from the people is put back into place like the original forefathers intended.


32 posted on 04/17/2009 8:58:01 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Cicero

You said — Better to take back our country than leave it.

Plus, “Manifest Destiny” always had a nice ring to it, I thought...


33 posted on 04/17/2009 8:58:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: broken_arrow1

If I lived in the great state of Texas, I would vote to Secede in a heartbeat.

I don’t think they will ever would pull this off, but if it seriously looked like they were, I would pack up before breakfast and be on my way to the hill country.

Heck, I am thinking of buying a Texas flag, as Old Glory came down January 20th and will not go back up until those traitors in DC are out of power.

About 3 years ago, I had gone on a cross country trip on one of my Harley’s. I met some very good folks all across this country during our month long travels. About 30 folks in Texas made my wife and I me feel at home and treated us like royalty.... I was most impressed. I was amazed at how much those Texans love their state and know it’s rich history.

When they say, “Don’t mess with Texas”..... they truly mean it.... and I think I now know why they insist on that.


34 posted on 04/17/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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To: Cicero
Plus the whole thing seems to have turned into a Rick Perry moment, and I can’t get very enthusiastic about that.

He planted the seed. That's the important part.

35 posted on 04/17/2009 8:58:43 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: broken_arrow1
"Don’t bother calling, I will just shout for DHS outside my back door."

They told me to tell you they will be over just as soon as they are finished interrogating my elderly parents and ransacking the house in search of white supremacist hate literature like The Bible and old church bulletins.

36 posted on 04/17/2009 9:00:00 AM PDT by DonGrafico (Underwriting America's permanent underclass since 1975)
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To: Star Traveler

Eh... no thanks.


37 posted on 04/17/2009 9:00:03 AM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: broken_arrow1

As a Texan, I can say the results are probably accurate. Texans do not want to secede from the Union. They love the United States of America. However, the nature of Texans is to do what must be done. If the situation in the country continues to deteriorate and the constitution continually subverted, then...secede we will if secede we must.


38 posted on 04/17/2009 9:08:34 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: broken_arrow1

Don’t underestimate that 25%. That’s pretty big, considering S has not really HTF yet.


39 posted on 04/17/2009 9:10:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Texas Fossil

That interactive job loss map is incredible.

I’ve told family and friends back home that they ought to consider relocating to Texas because of the better economy and jobs situation here, but this map communicates it a whole lot better than I ever could.

As bad as it all seems to be, it’s interesting to note that the Southwest and Central states haven’t been hit nearly as hard as the Eastern states and California.

No coincidence there.


40 posted on 04/17/2009 9:28:46 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mosaicwolf

Don’t you be sending them up here to Oklahoma! We’ll either go with Texas or form another Indian Nation. By the by we already have a start on the Indian Nation thingy. Just look at the signs along the interstates, entering one Nation leaving another. There might be an out for us here.


41 posted on 04/17/2009 9:33:10 AM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: CMAC51
Texans do not want to secede from the Union. They love the United States of America. However, the nature of Texans is to do what must be done.

That's pretty much how I see it, too. People here love this country with an uncommon fervor, but will "do what must be done", if it comes to it.

42 posted on 04/17/2009 9:36:07 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cicero
Better to take back our country than leave it.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I see a lot of angry people on their high horses, cavalierly suggesting that we throw our great nation into the dustbin of history. That wounds me deeply.

Those advocating secession need to also consider the unintended consequences of political separation from the US. There are many.

43 posted on 04/17/2009 9:40:59 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: broken_arrow1

The poll is asking the wrong question. The right question is whether or not Texas has the right to secede. A good followup question would be whether or not the necessary conditions justifying succession are close to being satisfied.


44 posted on 04/17/2009 9:51:42 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: sourcery

The U.S. Constitution does not expressly recognize or deny a right of secession. Accordingly, the argument for a right of unilateral secession begins (and pretty much ends) with a claim about the very nature of the Constitution.

That document, by the terms of its Article VII, only obtained legal force through the ratification by nine states, and then only in the states so ratifying it. Because the Constitution derived its initial force from the voluntary act of consent by the sovereign states, secessionists argued, a state could voluntarily and unilaterally withdraw its consent from the Union.

In this view, the Constitution is a kind of multilateral treaty, which derives its legal effect from the consent of the sovereign parties to it. Just as sovereign nations can withdraw from a treaty, so too can the sovereign states withdraw from the Union.


45 posted on 04/17/2009 10:09:08 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: RED SOUTH
Yes, I agree. But that's not the point. The issue here is what the voters of Texas believe, and how to interpret their answer to the question asked by the poll. Many who believe in the right to secede may not feel that Texas should do so—yet. But may nevertheless feel that the conditions necessary to justify secesseion are not that far off. But we don't know, because the poll did not ask the right questions.
46 posted on 04/17/2009 10:30:30 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: broken_arrow1

I’d bet that 75% of the 75% were illegal immigrants.


47 posted on 04/17/2009 12:18:49 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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