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Obama to regulate 'pollutant' CO2
BBC ^ | 4/17/09 | Dick Black

Posted on 04/17/2009 8:30:33 PM PDT by pissant

The US government is to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, having decided that it and five other greenhouse gases may endanger human health and well-being.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced the move following a review of the scientific evidence.

The decision marks a major change from the Bush presidency, when the EPA argued it could not regulate CO2 because the gas was not a pollutant.

Developing countries have asked for the US to show leadership on climate.

Many are not prepared to curtail their own emissions without firm indications that the US is willing to make significant reductions.

Carbon-cutting legislation is being proposed in Congress, but the EPA decision - known as an "endangerment finding" - will allow the agency to mandate some cuts without waiting for the draft bills to become law.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoenvironment; carboncult; carbondioxide; co2; globalwarming; larrysinclairslover; lifehate; marxistpos; obama; socialistblitzkrieg
Next up, oxygen! Get the pitchforks out folks. They are going to be needed.
1 posted on 04/17/2009 8:30:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Related

http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/17/epa-carbon-dioxide-business-energy-epa.html


2 posted on 04/17/2009 8:31:14 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: pissant

Okay. They really are serious....they don’t want us or any other living creature to breathe. They don’t want plants to live by taking in CO2.

The real question is whether or not they are going to do away with us before we get to watch them understand how totally ignorant and stupid they are. It would be funny, if they weren’t so incredibly dangerous and insipid.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 8:36:37 PM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: pissant

h2o coming soon


4 posted on 04/17/2009 8:38:19 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: pissant
Get the pitchforks out folks. They are going to be needed.

Pitchforks are so 18th Century. Recent gun and ammunition sales indicate that many people understand that.

5 posted on 04/17/2009 8:38:26 PM PDT by cayuga (We lost the soapbox to MSM bias, and the ballot box to ACORN. The cartridge box is all we have left.)
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To: madinmadtown
You beat me to it. Just what do they think they breathe? IDIOTS.

I told a young woman the other day who went on and on about organic this and that, and how people are the cause of GW. I stopped her cold when I told her humans were every bit as organic as every other living thing on the planet. She stuttered a bit and stormed off.

6 posted on 04/17/2009 8:40:28 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: pissant
How can abject idiots get to such power positions?

I will never believe "we" elected this zero ... not in a million years will I acept that.

And the best I can say without being banned is; I wish the zero would be zero

7 posted on 04/17/2009 8:50:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: pissant
“Scientific evidence”

What, a deep look into a crystal ball? Science as it is in the public spotlight has estranged itself from the scientific method, reserved professionalism, adhering to facts and sound logic. What is “called” science today has largely become like the media, bought up by political and special interests with its agenda's, sensationalist, often amateurish, full of quacks with big titles working at make belief institutes, all about money and seldom the truth, fast pace full of trends and fashions, often more worried about form than function.............. Global Warming is about as scientific as the belief in a flat world around which the planets revolve, and you better not question it you heretic!

8 posted on 04/17/2009 8:54:08 PM PDT by Red6
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To: knarf

This will DESTROY our economy. They have to know this. Maybe I need some tin foil, but I’m beginning to think they are out to intentionally destroy our country.


9 posted on 04/17/2009 8:58:12 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: cayuga

I’m a liberal weenie that loves gov’t control of my life. I believe i’m an idiot. I believe I can’t spell. I believe people are smarter than me. I believe I don’t have a chance for happiness without gov’t. I believe children conceived are optional. I believe God isn’t real. I believe every generation before me is so yesterday. I believe people are stupid. I believe I am left and the right is wrong. I believe our Nation is bad. I believe I don’t make enough money. I believe other people make to much money. I believe people should give me money. I believe people are racists. I believe people are sexists. I believe people are radical. I believe the military is evil. I believe anyone who disagrees with me is just, once again stupid.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 8:59:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: pissant

If EPA is not reined in by a new Congress in 2010 or a new president in 2012, you will not recognize America in 5 to 10 years. The penetration of government into all aspects of our lives today is nothing compared to what is coming. Expect 50 mph speed limits, very small cars, special permits required to purchase trucks and only for business purposes, swelteringly hot offices and homes in summer and frigid in winter, lukewarm water for showers, autos in any color you want as long as it’s white, GPS control in your cars to monitor your travel, travel restrictions, sky-high airline fares, quadrupling of electricity bills, no-flush urinals required in homes (don’t have to use power to pump water or process liquid sewage), enormous waste of precious water to grow more corn for ethanol, requirements that all homes be roofed with solar cells (bill introduced into CA legislature for this by 2020), exorbitant fees on remote subdivisions to force people to live near commuter lines in boxy gray condos, soaring inflation as high energy costs flow through the entire supply chain and production process, loss of nearly all manufacturing in the U.S., offshoring of all new data centers.

The list is endless.

The original clean air act resulted in huge benefits by clearing our air of sulfur and nitrogen pollution compounds and particulate matter. This idiocy will cause massive hardship for all Americans and will have ZERO benefit for anybody. Not just indiscernible benefits, but NO benefits at all — except for the people and companies who jump onto this gravy train.

I am so sickened by this and really ashamed of what is being done in and to our country. We are going to be the first generation to leave a much worse world to our progeny.


11 posted on 04/17/2009 9:00:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SC Swamp Fox

For a long time I have believed that liberals want to destroy the country, or at least take it down a notch or two. There is no other logical explaination for their actions.

This carbon nonsense will be looked upon as similar to the Salem witch trials in the future.


12 posted on 04/17/2009 9:05:47 PM PDT by lacrew (Obama and cabinet: Fool and the Gang)
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To: SC Swamp Fox; lacrew

I heard Karl Rove, of all people, basically say the same thing last week in an interview....he said he was beginning to think they wanted to destroy America so they can remake it in their way (I’m paraphrasing from memory).....it took me a little by surprise to hear him say it OUT LOUD, in an interview on the radio!


13 posted on 04/17/2009 9:07:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say NO to the $10 Trillion Ransom to DC)
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To: cayuga
Pitchforks are so 18th Century.

Nothing personal. That statement set me off. There was a guy at work that said Jefferson had a caveman mentality. I'll refrain from my response.

14 posted on 04/17/2009 9:11:06 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Beginning?

That's ok ... you're correct whether you knew it before, or just comin' around.

My problem is I don't know what to do about it.

15 posted on 04/17/2009 9:12:08 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: pissant

This doesn’t have a thing to do with CO2: this is merely an attempt to blackmail Congress into passing “Cap & Trade,” which by comparison to having the EPA running things will seem like a very good idea!

The EPA only did this, you’ll note, AFTER “Cap & Trade” was soundly rejected by Congress.

The end result will be the same for us though: the price of energy in any form will skyrocket, the price of anything made using energy (i.e., everything) will likewise skyrocket, and our economy will tank.
Oh, wait a minute, our economy is ALREADY in the tank!
How convenient! Never let a crisis go to waste!


16 posted on 04/17/2009 9:16:23 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: pissant
The gub will protect our health if they have to kill us to do it!
17 posted on 04/17/2009 9:16:47 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Don't tread on me)
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To: gidget7

Great response!!! I sleep so well at night knowing that the current administration and cabinet and the czars are so brilliant based on their insight on science and economics and history and every other subject is so deftly put forward as in this masterpiece of thought on CO2.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 9:17:37 PM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: lacrew
"For a long time I have believed that liberals want to destroy the country, or at least take it down a notch or two."

How could this be a surprise?
They've said this aloud for years!

The Ward Churchills and William Ayers' have been teaching this in our universities.

19 posted on 04/17/2009 9:19:25 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: pissant

What the hell is the EPA mandating a damn thing for? What the hell happened to our Constitution? I read nothing about a 4th branch of government consisting of a bunch of unelected dopes. How the hell are supposed to grow the economy when we’re worried about taxing a gas that is not the cause of global warming, global cooling or global staying the damn same? What is this Republic coming to?


20 posted on 04/17/2009 9:22:55 PM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
We are going to be the first generation to leave a much worse world to our progeny.

Actually, I think that Adam and Eve did it too...but that is only IMHO.

21 posted on 04/17/2009 9:23:16 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: madinmadtown

....they don’t want us or any other living creature to breathe.

We can only hope they’ll lead by example and will be the first to go.


22 posted on 04/17/2009 9:24:25 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: pissant
So Greeniee need to hold their breath or be hypocrites
23 posted on 04/17/2009 9:24:55 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: pissant
Kind of gives the term “Stuck on Stupid” a whole new meaning.

Imagine that we walk around every day and interact with fools and idiots who swallow this type of drivel Hook, Line and Sinker.

We the Sheeple? More like Them the Sheeple, we the Wolves.
Ignorant Sycophants who want to be led, not governed.

24 posted on 04/17/2009 9:25:15 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: pissant

didn’t hitler have a plan to reduce CO2 ?


25 posted on 04/17/2009 9:27:46 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Excellent post. It needs wide distribution.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 9:30:29 PM PDT by cayuga (We lost the soapbox to MSM bias, and the ballot box to ACORN. The cartridge box is all we have left.)
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To: zwerni

“didn’t hitler have a plan to reduce CO2 ?”

Yes - it was called “Less Jews Breathing.”


27 posted on 04/17/2009 9:46:18 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: GlennBeck08

The good news here is that the voters who voted in this administration - the centrists - will get a good chance to look over the edge and into the abyss well before 2010. They will not make this voting mistake again. The dilemma Obama faces is that he needs to do as much as he can before 2010, but the faster he goes, the more extreme he lets his cohorts get, the more frightened intelligent voters become (with good reason).

If the Republicans don’t make massive seat gains in 2010, then maybe the party just deserves to fail.


28 posted on 04/17/2009 9:54:50 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: pissant
Regulate CO2?

My guess is the CO2 police will soon visit to snuff me out... can't have Trajan88 exhale, contributing to "global warming."

America... was nice knowing you for 43+ years... hope you come back again before I'm 6' under.

29 posted on 04/17/2009 9:59:44 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: pissant

So Obama doesn’t want anybody to exhale?? I guess thats one way to reduce the population.


30 posted on 04/17/2009 10:05:23 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: pissant

Obama may qualify for being the dumbest POTUS ever.


31 posted on 04/17/2009 10:07:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: yldstrk

The sooner we get these “America Haters” out of Washington the better it’ll a be for You & Me... This is starting to scare me!


32 posted on 04/17/2009 10:10:10 PM PDT by mdunn121
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To: pissant

We all have to get together and sue the EPA to regulate the breath we exhale. That is what it will take to get this foolishness stop and spread the revolt to the rest of Americans.

Use their weapons against them.


33 posted on 04/17/2009 10:41:58 PM PDT by dila813
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To: pissant

Notice, when they do something they know is unpopular, Obama’s name is nowhere to be found.


34 posted on 04/17/2009 11:26:30 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: IM2MAD

Vicki McKenna**, WISN Radio Milwaukee 1130 am was talking about this issue this morning—she was really upset saying the control of carbon, carbon dioxide, and energy will basically control everyone—rick, poor, young, old.

Many Greens think there are too many humans populating the earth—very scary legislation!

**She does podcasts from internet, very good commentary!


35 posted on 04/17/2009 11:32:04 PM PDT by bushwon (Wonder if our founding fathers would even recognize the USA?!)
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To: pissant

Meanwhile, all the mammals on earth continue exhaling CO2, blithly ignoring the idiots in D.C. What are we going to do with all these Caribou farts that have been piling up?


36 posted on 04/17/2009 11:46:35 PM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

This will DESTROY our economy. They have to know this. Maybe I need some tin foil, but I’m beginning to think they are out to intentionally destroy our country.

As bizarre as this sounds, it is hard to imagine an alternative to your hypothesis.
Every day i struggle with the eternal question are libs stupid or evil?
Today evil wins.


37 posted on 04/18/2009 12:02:29 AM PDT by genghis
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To: pissant
Obama to regulate 'pollutant' CO2

Many are not prepared to curtail their own emissions without firm indications that the US is willing to make significant reductions.

This f**king idiot and alGore can kiss my @$$. They both fly around the world with their entourages spewing tripe and carbon like the're on magic carpets. And Obama and Waxman will dare to tell me to park my truck!? Hey Barry!! What was the footprint of that pizza order that you and Babymamma flew in from St. Louis last week? F**king hypocrite.

38 posted on 04/18/2009 1:32:50 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: pissant; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

39 posted on 04/18/2009 4:44:44 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: IM2MAD

Some of them might lead by example; some of them do a lot of crazy things to show their faith to the cause.
My take is that it will be the overweight first (after conservatives) because we know that they are already a health hazard and they already occupy too much space on the planet....and the left has started to demonize them already. Perhaps followed by smokers. Then, it will be older people and people with disabilities.


40 posted on 04/18/2009 5:07:24 AM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: madinmadtown

The conservative mantra should be if you are a leftie, you aren’t fit to breathe American air.


41 posted on 04/18/2009 5:09:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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To: RoadKingSE
...Obama and Waxman will dare to tell me to park my truck!?

You betcha. Even worse, they essentially told GM this week to completely SHUT DOWN GMC Division because its fleet doesn't meet mileage standards. Obviously GMC cannot meet mileage standards because it makes trucks and SUVs, no cars.

Can you effing believe it? The federal government is instructing a publicly traded corporation to completely shut down an entire division because it makes products the federal government DOESN'T LIKE?? Not only will you have to park your truck, you won't ever be able to again purchase another truck because the government has banned them and ordered an end of their production. Communism is on the march in the U.S.

42 posted on 04/18/2009 6:21:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: knarf
Beginning?

When I cross swords with friends, relatives and acquaintances that have liberal views and vote for democrats I usually assume that they are misinformed and don't understand the issues completely. For example, my 77 year old mother has been watching CBS evening news for 40+ years and she reads the AARP magazine every month.

I don't think Obama and his fellow travelers are misinformed, I think they know the truth. I fear some of the other replies here are correct, they are out to destroy our economy and society so they can rebuild it to their ideals.

43 posted on 04/18/2009 8:47:25 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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