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California Republican Party (CRP) opposes Prop 1A-1F

Posted on 04/18/2009 4:14:34 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

This just in from friends on the scene...

California Republican Party (CRP) opposes Prop 1A-1F

Mike Villines & Tom Campbell had spoken in favor of 1A and Steve Poizner against.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; budget; cagop; calinitiatives; campbell; crp; may19; poizner; prop1a; prop1abcdef; prop1b; prop1c; prop1d; prop1e; prop1f; ronnehring; schwarzenegger; shellgame; specialelection; taxes; villines
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1 posted on 04/18/2009 4:14:34 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: calcowgirl

Will wonders never cease :-)


2 posted on 04/18/2009 4:15:02 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

there’s a republican party in California?


3 posted on 04/18/2009 4:15:15 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

So what are these things?


4 posted on 04/18/2009 4:16:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

In a nutshell, it’s a budgetary shell game put on by Arnold Schwarzenegger and the leftist and RINO sellout legislatures.


5 posted on 04/18/2009 4:17:52 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Yeah, there maybe 100 of us left in Kalifornia. I’m waiting for Texas to secede.


6 posted on 04/18/2009 4:21:54 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: CounterCounterCulture
legislatures ==> legislators.
7 posted on 04/18/2009 4:25:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold! FIRE proofreader!)
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To: Parley Baer
Yeah, there maybe 100 of us left in Kalifornia. I’m waiting for Texas to secede.

Better move now, so you don't have to immigrate and apply for citizenship later on.

8 posted on 04/18/2009 4:25:41 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: RobinOfKingston; Eaker

I’m already an Ornery Texan. They told me so. Got the cup and everything. Hope it still counts when the time comes.


9 posted on 04/18/2009 4:30:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m happy with their decision — but it was a no-brainer from day one.

Can they get back the $1 million bucks that the GOP gave Arnie for his YES campaign?

How much time and money willl they invest in the NO campaign?

It has been 52 days since the legislature put this on the ballot and there are only 37 days left until the election. Voter pamphlets have been delivered. Absentee voter ballots are in the mail.

I’ll be interested to see what kind of NO campaign the party actually launches.

Call me a skeptic, but I think they did this on purpose. Dilly-dally while the other team racks up a dozen touch-downs, then decide to play.


10 posted on 04/18/2009 4:33:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
That's the next question on my mind. Probably not much of one. At least this ought to stop them from funneling more money on the YES side. We'll probably get a slate mailer and not much else. OK. You're a skeptic. :-)

And I'm sure you're right.

11 posted on 04/18/2009 4:38:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold! FIRE proofreader!)
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To: Jim Robinson; RobinOfKingston; TheMom; dix; TexasCowboy; Flyer; humblegunner; Allegra; Xenalyte; ...
You can't get more Texan than Jim Rob.



Jim, you are always welcome in God's country!

12 posted on 04/18/2009 4:44:08 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Eaker
Hope it still counts when the time comes.

You have a reserved spot.

13 posted on 04/18/2009 4:46:57 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: Jim Robinson
I’m already an Ornery Texan.



Here is absolute proof!

14 posted on 04/18/2009 4:47:01 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Same here.

Maybe that Texas birth certificate will become useful after all...


15 posted on 04/18/2009 4:47:28 PM PDT by DB
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To: calcowgirl

16 posted on 04/18/2009 4:48:51 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

bttt


17 posted on 04/18/2009 4:52:07 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: CounterCounterCulture; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Czar; CAluvdubya; ...
Ping!

After 52 days of hand wringing, the CA GOP acknowledges the world is not flat.


18 posted on 04/18/2009 4:54:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: Eaker
Here is absolute proof!

Proves nothing.

There are folks in all 57 states that want to strangle you.

19 posted on 04/18/2009 4:55:49 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Well, it’s better than nuttin.’

But how many people ever go to the CA GOP website?

Time will tell.


20 posted on 04/18/2009 4:57:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

wow. Hang tough .

after further review , I’ll go all No as well.


21 posted on 04/18/2009 4:58:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: calcowgirl
31 days now, but who's counting ;-)

(meanwhile, the CTA spews out their "YES" propaganda as the CRP fiddled)

22 posted on 04/18/2009 4:58:51 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
31 days now, but who's counting ;-)

Thanks... you are correct. Not sure how I got that number, LOL

(meanwhile, the CTA spews out their "YES" propaganda as the CRP fiddled)

Yup! With Arnold fully on board.

I loved Jerry Brown's reasoning for backing it. It will make the Governor's job easier if he has more money to spend. GRRRRRRRRRR!

23 posted on 04/18/2009 5:03:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

Shhheee. Nascar is on FOX


24 posted on 04/18/2009 5:08:06 PM PDT by tubebender ( Large Reward offered for missing Tag line. Last seen heading East with notorious Beau the Black Lab)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
there’s a republican party in California?

You will need a scanning electron microscope to find it. The CA repubs could hold a convention in a phone booth and have room left for a gang bang.

25 posted on 04/18/2009 5:09:22 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Eaker

Darned extremists L0L


26 posted on 04/18/2009 5:19:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tubebender

Thanks for the Nascar reminder.I’m votin’ no on all the CA ballot measures but I havn’t gotten anything in the mail yet.
I live in rural Monterey county & we have to vote absentee (no precinct). Perhaps they’re holding off on sending ‘em to registered Pubbies so as to assure more yes votes.
They’ve done it before in other elections.


27 posted on 04/18/2009 5:19:47 PM PDT by tbone56
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To: Jim Robinson

You got a cup? I never got a cup. WTF?


28 posted on 04/18/2009 5:21:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tbone56; al baby

We got a voter pamphlet in the mail yesterday and I was stunned...


29 posted on 04/18/2009 5:25:26 PM PDT by tubebender ( Large Reward offered for missing Tag line. Last seen heading East with notorious Beau the Black Lab)
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To: mylife; Jim Robinson
You got a cup? I never got a cup. WTF?

Dude.

You got to hang with the goat.

We can only give out so many cups each year.

I don't even have a cup. I designed the damn graphics and I don't have a cup.

Chill!

30 posted on 04/18/2009 5:32:45 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Except for ONE LITTLE PROBLEM....

1F - Vote YES if you do NOT want legislator pay raises (during budget deficits)

Prop 1F is about NO PAY RAISES FOR LEGISLATORS in the year WHEN THERE IS NO BALANCED BUDGET - VOTE YES for NO.

31 posted on 04/18/2009 5:38:18 PM PDT by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Zip a dee doo dah!!


32 posted on 04/18/2009 5:48:35 PM PDT by Marie2 (No, we're NOT "all socialists now.")
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To: Parley Baer

Hey, there are 3480 FReepers registered in the “California” locale. Assuming half are trolls or have moved out since, we still are near 2000 :)


33 posted on 04/18/2009 5:50:11 PM PDT by Marie2 (No, we're NOT "all socialists now.")
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To: calcowgirl
Good news but I never thought any of these would get voted in anyway.

Pretty hard to voted to tax yourself MORE in this day and age.

34 posted on 04/18/2009 5:51:35 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO----O.B.A.M.A.!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Well, I don’t need them to tell me to oppose these POS initiatives, but it is nice to see them taking a stand.


35 posted on 04/18/2009 5:54:30 PM PDT by calex59
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To: NordP
Prop 1F is about NO PAY RAISES FOR LEGISLATORS in the year WHEN THERE IS NO BALANCED BUDGET - VOTE YES for NO.

I disagree. Off the top of my head, here are a few reasons why:

1) I don't believe that legislator's salaries are excessive given the level of experience and knowledge I want them to have.

2) I don't want legislators who fight against tax increases and outrageous spending to be penalized. In the last go around, I'd like everyone of those Republicans who stood firm to get a raise and for the Democrats, Maldonado, Villines, and the rest of the turncoats to be thrown out entirely.

3) The amount of money you are talking about is peanuts relative to the billions in budget issues that they are passing, or more importantly stopping from passage.

4) If you read the fine print, you find that the administration can overrun the budget and run the rainy fund dry, something that is in the administration's control, not the legislature's. In such a case, this measure would penalize the legislators not those who caused the problem.

It's a silly, juvenile measure to make voters feel good by punishing "those evil legsilators" when only some of those legislator's are not doing what voters want.

NO ON PROP 1F
36 posted on 04/18/2009 5:55:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: CAluvdubya

I never thought they’d vote for bonds for hi-speed-rail and bike trails, but they did. ;-)

Of course, bonds are freeeeeeeeeee! /s


37 posted on 04/18/2009 5:56:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: driftdiver
They are kind of a catch 22. If you vote for them the tax increases that the ba*****s have recently enacted in CA will stay on the books for about 5 years, if you vote against them they will only stay on the books until 2011. Wow, what a choice huh? People with a brain are voting against them.

Plus each one of them allows a raping of a different part of the revenue from CA taxes.

38 posted on 04/18/2009 5:56:57 PM PDT by calex59
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To: NordP

Vote “Yes” if you want “No” — you gotta love the illiterates who write these ballot measures. Is it a plot to secretly pass things?

My general rule of thumb is to vote “NO” on every single ballot measure. There are a few good exceptions like Prop 13, Parental notification, Prop 8 — but not very many.


39 posted on 04/18/2009 5:59:53 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tbone56

I have gotten a pamphlet but no absentee ballot yet, I usually vote absentee, and I live in Amador county. However, I can, and will, go to my polling place and vote if no ballot shows up.


40 posted on 04/18/2009 6:00:37 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calcowgirl
Ok, ya got me. I was using common sense again.

Of course, bonds are freeeeeeeeeee! /s

Make me realy LOL with that one!

41 posted on 04/18/2009 6:01:33 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO----O.B.A.M.A.!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Actually in this case it is vote no if you want no. The 1F measure should be voted out also. I am voting no on all of them. Hopefully they will all fail.


42 posted on 04/18/2009 6:01:35 PM PDT by calex59
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To: dearolddad

The CA repubs could hold a convention in a phone booth and have room left for a gang bang.

Hey, my wife and I are Cali Republicans and between the
two of us we can certainly fill a phone booth.
hehe!


43 posted on 04/18/2009 6:01:48 PM PDT by jamndad5 ("I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.")
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To: calcowgirl

Prop 1C has to be the most fiscally irresponsible ballot measure ever conceived. The current lottery is not extracting enough lucre from the populace, so we are going to “borrow” against future lottery revenues and spend it today! Guess what happens when, 5 or 10 years down the road, there isn’t enough lottery money AND we’ve already borrowed those revenues? Are we going to do it again ad infinitum?

The fiscal insanity has to stop NOW.

But I figure this will be couched as “for the chillun’s education” and the dopey electorate will pass it because of their complete economic illiteracy.


44 posted on 04/18/2009 6:05:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“for the chillun’s education”

I'm surprised that the CSEA hasn't pulled out all the stops to get these props passed.

I haven't seen much here in San Diego.

45 posted on 04/18/2009 6:12:53 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO----O.B.A.M.A.!)
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To: calex59

I read that absentee ballots are scheduled to come in the mail this week.


46 posted on 04/18/2009 6:16:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: CAluvdubya
>>Of course, bonds are freeeeeeeeeee! /s

Make me realy LOL with that one!

I think it is largely true (sadly). Suddenly voters are upset about raising taxes $16 billion (about $8 billion/year). But over the past 5 years, they have passed $60+ billion in bonds (or approx double that number if you consider interest payment over time.)

Bottom line: Voters are stupid. :-(

47 posted on 04/18/2009 6:20:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
the dopey electorate will pass it because of their complete economic illiteracy.

I hope you wrong about it passing -- but agree with you on the economic illiteracy
... but why did you limit the description to "economic"? ;-)

48 posted on 04/18/2009 6:22:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
Meanwhile, last week I've already received two separate glossy, four-page mailings touting Yes on Props 1A-1F from "Budget Reform Now" (www.CABudgetReformNow.com) *

* Paid for by Budget Reform Now, A Coalition of Taxpayers, Business, Labor, Educators, Public Safety, Seniors, Jerry Perenchio and Governor Schwarzenegger's California Dream Team, a ballot measure committee - Yes on 1A through 1F"

49 posted on 04/18/2009 6:27:09 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado! DEPORT Arnold!)
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To: calcowgirl
Voter really are stupid because right on the the info they send you in the mail, it says what the cost to you is.

I can't remember one where there was a cost to me and I voted yes on it......hmmmmmmm, all this thinking is making me hungry!

50 posted on 04/18/2009 6:32:24 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO----O.B.A.M.A.!)
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