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Blind to be cured with embryonic stem cells (claim)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6122757.ece ^

Posted on 04/18/2009 9:44:59 PM PDT by chevydude26

BRITISH scientists have developed the world’s first stem cell therapy to cure the most common cause of blindness. Surgeons predict it will become a routine, one-hour procedure that will be generally available in six or seven years’ time.

The treatment involves replacing a layer of degenerated cells with new ones created from embryonic stem cells. It was pioneered by scientists and surgeons from the Institute of Ophthalmology at University College London and Moorfields eye hospital.

This week Pfizer, the world’s largest pharmaceutical research company, will announce its financial backing to bring the therapy to patients.

The treatment will tackle age-related macular degeneration (AMD), the most common cause of blindness. It affects more than 500,000 Britons and the number is forecast to increase significantly as people live longer. The disease involves the loss of eye cells.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blindness; embryonicstemcells; medicine; moralabsolutes; prolife; stemcells
Unfortunately this will use embryos but if there is any positive news out of this...the private companies are going to be the ones who fund this and it didn't need government funding. I don't know if this will come into fruition

This is probably the first time embryonic stem cells have ever worked for something

1 posted on 04/18/2009 9:44:59 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: chevydude26

But if your optic nerve is shot you have no hope in the world


2 posted on 04/18/2009 9:47:06 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: chevydude26

I wouldn’t take it as truth until I saw a second source. The media for years has confused the issue by implying that pro-lifers were against stem cell research, when most of us just oppose embryonic stem cell research. Given that they can’t get a story straight, you might want to wait for a definitive statement.


3 posted on 04/18/2009 9:51:12 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: chevydude26

I have no idea what an “eye cell” is, but even if they are able to cultivate intact retinal tissue (exceedingly complex in and of itself), what miracle of neurosurgery is going to make the millions of nerve connections to the nerve fiber layer, or more centrally, the optic nerve?


4 posted on 04/18/2009 9:55:40 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: chevydude26

The only thing that has happened with embryonic stem cell research is that people have developed cancer.

000000000000000000% of anything happening.


5 posted on 04/18/2009 9:58:26 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: EyeGuy

i’m almost certain there have been claims of this working only for it never to come into fruition


6 posted on 04/18/2009 9:58:54 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: chevydude26

The real healings are coming from adult stem cells.


7 posted on 04/18/2009 9:59:12 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: chevydude26

“The treatment will tackle age-related macular degeneration (AMD)”

Which seems to be a preventable nutritional deficiency disease.

“The National Eye Institute’s Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS) found that taking a specific high-dose formulation of antioxidants and zinc significantly reduces the risk of advanced AMD and its associated vision loss. Slowing AMD’s progression from the intermediate stage to the advanced stage will save the vision of many people.

Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS)
What is the dosage of the AREDS formulation?
The specific daily amounts of antioxidants and zinc used by the study researchers were 500 milligrams of vitamin C, 400 International Units of vitamin E, 15 milligrams of beta-carotene (often labeled as equivalent to 25,000 International Units of vitamin A), 80 milligrams of zinc as zinc oxide, and two milligrams of copper as cupric oxide. Copper was added to the AREDS formulation containing zinc to prevent copper deficiency anemia, a condition associated with high levels of zinc intake.”

http://www.nei.nih.gov/health/maculardegen/armd_facts.asp

Eggs are good, too:

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/136/10/2519


8 posted on 04/18/2009 10:04:17 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: chevydude26

If the Left wants to lie about the wonders of embryonic stem cells, they would be wise to select a less complex and miraculous organ than the human eye.

In a world flush with God’s miracles, the eye stands apart as a near incomprehensible marvel of engineering, biochemistry and wondrous physiology.

I’m blessed to see it every day.


9 posted on 04/18/2009 10:05:20 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: chevydude26

I’ll bite.

So how do they stop the cells from growing?


10 posted on 04/18/2009 10:07:18 PM PDT by AliVeritas (No taxation without representation. Government of, for, by the people. Let's roll!)
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To: EyeGuy

Amen.


11 posted on 04/18/2009 10:08:53 PM PDT by AliVeritas (No taxation without representation. Government of, for, by the people. Let's roll!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

AMD is identified as a metabolic disorder with iron over load as a cofactor. Replacing the dead cells with new ones is likely to be a temporarty benefit if the underlying causation is not dealt with.


12 posted on 04/18/2009 10:08:55 PM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.comsto)
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To: EyeGuy

They’re expecting it to somehow know how to grow back together.


13 posted on 04/18/2009 10:10:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: chevydude26

wonder if they’ll ever tell how many cases of eye cancer occurs afterward.


14 posted on 04/18/2009 10:55:01 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: chevydude26

this smacks of liberal propaganda, The scientist I know say that embryonic stems cells are proving next to impossible to control.


15 posted on 04/18/2009 11:14:09 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: AliVeritas
To answer your growing question...The cells will keep growing till the vision becomes so perfect that it develops x-ray vision.

or
For all we know, there may be three eyed people in the near future.

Hmm appears I didn't answer your question.

16 posted on 04/18/2009 11:35:43 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: chevydude26; All; wagglebee; Coleus; narses; DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah

From deep in the article (paragraph 8):

Laboratory trials completed by the British team have demonstrated that stem cells can prevent blindness in rats with a similar disease to AMD. They have also successfully tested elements of the technology in pigs.

In other words, they haven't tried it on humans yet. this is just more propaganda bullsh*t

I just feel sorry for the first (and probably only) human guinea pig. Cancer near the optic nerve...probably quickly traveling toward the brain, is no way to go. If a person wants to commit suicide, I would think a bullet would be a whole lot faster and less painful.

17 posted on 04/19/2009 4:35:29 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: chevydude26

Be (very) suspicious of ANY medical cure that’s ‘going to be available in 6 years’. Next week, maybe. Two weeks, no.


18 posted on 04/19/2009 6:42:06 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: the_Watchman

here’s a similar article from Fox last year about a treatment they’re already selling at a clinic in China — apparently this little girl from Missouri went out there.

Blind Girl, 8, Sees Colors After Stem Cell Treatments
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405505,00.html


19 posted on 04/19/2009 6:48:08 AM PDT by fours
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To: the_Watchman

oh, looks like those Chinese treatments I posted earlier could just be a scam on western visitors for $20k/each. (who could’ve guessed??)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88123868

but this formerly blind guy is for real and can actually see colors and movements, thanks to stem cell transplants from a 3-year old:

Blind Man Sees (FNC Video, Dec 4 2008)
A man who has been blind for 43 years can now see thanks to a life changing surgery
http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/21594397/blind-man-sees.htm


20 posted on 04/19/2009 6:48:10 AM PDT by fours
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To: fours

Your posts would indicate that the “breakthrough” is indeed for non-embryonic stem cells. Two of the posts do not mention what type of stem cell is being employed. The one post which is specific states that the Chinese are using Umbilical stem cells not embryonic stem cells. This is not an ethical controversy. It is a science controversy. If anyone is able to cure people with umbilical stem cells, then more power to them!


21 posted on 04/19/2009 3:30:23 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Sorry: I was mostly replying to the other commenters who were sahing the science behind stem cell treatments for blindness (embryonic or not) was impossible.


22 posted on 04/19/2009 7:16:11 PM PDT by fours
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To: fours

No need to be sorry. You brought some interesting posts to the party! I have a couple of relatives who have been stricken with blindness and my wife worries about her own possible predisposition for macular degeneration.

However, it would have been clearer if you had replied directly to those “commenter” who dissed stem cell cures for blindness.


23 posted on 04/19/2009 7:37:00 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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