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Obama Repeats '90 Percent' Stat for U.S. Guns Recovered in Mexico
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Posted on 04/19/2009 6:05:26 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama Repeats '90 Percent' Stat for U.S. Guns Recovered in Mexico The White House stands by the president's use of the word "recovered" in describing the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's drug war.

By Major Garrett

FOXNews.com

Sunday, April 19, 2009

PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad and Tobago -- What's the difference between "recovered" and "traceable" when it comes to firearms seized in Mexico's bloody war against drug cartels?

The White House says none.

But that's a distinction with a difference, even if President Obama used the words interchangeably last week to talk about the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's stepped up fight against entrenched, well-armed drug cartels.

"This war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the United States. More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border," the president said on the subject in his joint press conference with Mexican President Felipe Calderon on Thursday:

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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1 posted on 04/19/2009 6:05:26 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmm, here’s a novel idea. Secure the border!


2 posted on 04/19/2009 6:08:15 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Sub-Driver
If anyone were in doubt about the idea that Obama was a simple case of EEO and Affirmative Action gone wild, the fact he seems unable to understand the difference between “recovered” and “traceable” should be persuasive of the fact.
3 posted on 04/19/2009 6:10:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver

Kind of like the “95%’ will get a tax cut charade. I never realized how totally ignorant the public really is. Amazing.


4 posted on 04/19/2009 6:10:44 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Short answer: Commies Lie!

He is a Lying Kenyan Commie who sleeps in the White House.


5 posted on 04/19/2009 6:11:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Sub-Driver

Repeat a lie often enough...


6 posted on 04/19/2009 6:13:36 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Sub-Driver

%90 is a load of BS. Orwellian lies, as authentic as the Orwellian pet dog story.


7 posted on 04/19/2009 6:14:22 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a feather bed. -Jefferson)
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To: Texas Fossil

And it is not going to improve with talk alone. Until WE THE PEOPLE get that sand goon by the short hairs and make him listen, it is only going to get worse. Until then he is going to continue to destroy the country and enslave us.


8 posted on 04/19/2009 6:14:32 AM PDT by Concho (01-20-2009--The beginning of an ERROR)
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To: Sub-Driver

This puppy is so out of his depth that he ran south to be with his commie buddies but finds himself caving to a band of chihuahuas.
Time to replace the TOTUS!


9 posted on 04/19/2009 6:17:52 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Sub-Driver

When the facts don’t fit your agenda, change the facts and repeat them as needed.


10 posted on 04/19/2009 6:25:04 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama is a damned liar. Why am I not amazed?

He learned at the knee of communist traitors like Alinsky and Ayers.


11 posted on 04/19/2009 6:29:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Barry LIES, people DIE.

Impeach Obama for "Lying To The American People"
(revised moonbat meme)

12 posted on 04/19/2009 6:32:41 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Sub-Driver

I am waiting for the day when the headline reads

OBAMA TELLS THE TRUTH


13 posted on 04/19/2009 6:34:12 AM PDT by Carley (MOANING IN AMERIKA)
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To: Sub-Driver

First president in US history (possible exception Jimmah Cartah) who goes out of his way to make his country look bad.


14 posted on 04/19/2009 6:35:24 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: Sub-Driver

How many weapon factories does Mexico have? I would not be surprised if we manufacture the majority of hand guns in the world. I also would not be surprised if the Mexican weapons were purchased using normal channels and not from gun shops across the border.


15 posted on 04/19/2009 6:41:09 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama is the ultimate lie. see tagline.


16 posted on 04/19/2009 6:41:57 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: screaminsunshine

I would be willing to bet that 90% of the guns captured in Mexico are NOT smuggled from America.

Odooma’s propaganda ministry is racheting up the lies.
Odooma says “we must destroy America”. Change sucks.


17 posted on 04/19/2009 6:46:04 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think that what is REALLY going on here is that Obama is crafting a two pronged approach where Calderon and himself play useful idiots to each other, and on behalf of each other’s purposes. Looking for a new rationale and justification for once again making SUPERURGENT the need to clamp down on ALL THINGS GUN in the USA????? Tell your people that guns “FROM THE USA” are responsible for the out of control drug wars in Mexico.Invite the President of Mexico to say the same thing, and also to blame us for using most of the drugs that “necessitates” traffickers in drugs.At the same time, totally ignore the fact that if this is the case, it would all be over in no time if the real priority would be CLOSING THE BORDERS NOW. In this way you can go after whatever you want to relating to guns in the USA, in many cases whatever remaining resisters there are (think Randy Weaver), who are going to resist you and your intimidation just out of general principles.In other words, they intend to reawaken if not create a new population like the vague ,unsubstantiated ones they identified in the notorious DHS document.In this way you can pretend to be to carrying on your own War on Drugs, when it’s real purpose is going to be confiscation of guns, and new gun laws, actively enforced. This sounds like a wet dream for Holder. If this transpires the way I think it will, they are promulgating yet another new civil war, this one on a new front.
It’s not gonna be so easy this time for them, as it’s been for other Administrations. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO ANGRY AT TOO MANY OTHER THINGS<>
This Administration is making a fatal mistake in piling too many things on the plate at the same time, and then when we resist eating it, pushing our collective faces in the plate.Every issue is promoted as being of utter urgency, and also solvable if only we take this step or that step NOW! Not to mention DO IT ON A GLOBAL SCALE.
What Obama slickly refers to under common rubrics like “working together” and “our common purpose”.
This is PRECISELY the nature and new look of how they
have chosen to overreach,and since they’re basically cynical and dishonest to begin with, THIS
will be their undoing.


18 posted on 04/19/2009 6:46:21 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("No symbols where none intended"--Beckett)
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To: Sub-Driver
The article is a good one, and folks should memorize this fact:

Less than 18% of guns recovered at crime scenes in Mexico during 2007-2008 were traced to the US.

19 posted on 04/19/2009 6:56:44 AM PDT by Darwin Fish
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To: Darwin Fish
5114 out of 29,000 were traced to the US.
20 posted on 04/19/2009 6:57:43 AM PDT by Darwin Fish
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s getting ready for an end around. He won’t dare try to take our guns away, but he will limit production. Sure, you can own a gun, you just can’t manufacture one. Believe me, he’s setting up to go after gun manufacturers.


21 posted on 04/19/2009 6:57:53 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: Sub-Driver

So where can I get some of those full-auto rifles, grenades, and RPG’s at my local gun store? They must be keeping them in a secret room in the back. And where’s my tax cut, dammit? So far, all I have is a reduced withholding that I have to pay for next year because my wife and I both work.


22 posted on 04/19/2009 6:57:59 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: Sub-Driver

FREE ONE YEAR NRA MEMBERSHIP

Pass this on to your friends and relatives.

https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp


23 posted on 04/19/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Sub-Driver

About 80% of the guns in Mexico go North into Mexico via Central America. Now, they may be American-made gun, but they were not sold out of gun shops, but through government sponsored sales to other countries.


24 posted on 04/19/2009 7:02:41 AM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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To: supremedoctrine

I know I can personally thank TOTUS for my recent membership with the NRA (finally!). OMG, BHO is a complete nightmare. Close the border, don’t trample on my 2nd Amendment rights, “Bro!”


25 posted on 04/19/2009 7:03:49 AM PDT by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama is an ass, and a nincompoop. It's been a while since we last had a nincompoop in the Oval Office.

Since very early in 1981, in fact...

26 posted on 04/19/2009 7:09:45 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Sub-Driver
"We feel good about these numbers and that's why the president uses the word recovered," McDonough said.

Who needs facts when you can use feelings

27 posted on 04/19/2009 7:15:42 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Sub-Driver

Gungrabbers lie and deceive.


28 posted on 04/19/2009 7:17:11 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Sub-Driver
To some, it might sound as if Obama is saying 90 percent of all guns captured from the cartels originated in America. But that's not what the president means, senior National Security Council Spokesman Denis McDonough told FOX News on Saturday.

Well let's just look at what littlie Barry actually said.

"More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border,"

Golly. I can certainly understand how "to some it might sound as if Obama is saying" thus and such when that is exactly what little Barry said!

However, he being a communist that calls himself a democrat I am reasonably certain that he will play the "meaning of is, is" game, which apparently he is, if that is what is means, or something like that... I guess.

Who could possibly know what they really mean when word games are the standard excuse for getting caught in a lie which was based in Orwellian newspeak, which was selected because it promoted the push to communism which is referred to by the communist democrats as "progressive" or other such nonsense or meaningless terms.

Now the really funny part of this is the commies will in almost every instance get so wound up in the morass of their own BS/lies/Orwellian newspeak that they become confused and spill the beans on their true agenda, communism.

29 posted on 04/19/2009 7:28:13 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Redbob

...And he claims he didn’t bow to that wahabbist jew killer either....


30 posted on 04/19/2009 7:29:27 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Raycpa
I also would not be surprised if the Mexican weapons were purchased using normal channels and not from gun shops across the border.

I heard you could get guns pretty cheap in Tijuana.

If you want guns, whores, or drugs, Mexico is the place to get them.

31 posted on 04/19/2009 7:42:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: onedoug
...And he claims he didn’t bow to that wahabbist jew killer either....

Well, if he wasn't bowing, maybe Anderson Cooper could explain what he was doing.

32 posted on 04/19/2009 7:48:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: onedoug
King Abdul: "It's called tea-bagging, Barry."


33 posted on 04/19/2009 7:51:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: screaminsunshine
Kind of like the “95%’ will get a tax cut charade. I never realized how totally ignorant the public really is. Amazing.

obama is a serial liar. He lies without hesitation to make his point. He lies when there's no reason to lie and he lies when it's easier not to. Right now most of his supporters still believe everything he says...that's going to change. Sooner or later he's going to tell a lie so big and in your face that everybody will see through it. Just a matter of time. Right now it's still all about what obama says. People give him credit for solving a problem just because he says there's a problem. We'll see how long this lasts...it can;t go on forever.

34 posted on 04/19/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Legalize Mexican guns! Then, they have no need to import any!


35 posted on 04/19/2009 8:04:55 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Does Obama know that 90% of wetbacks come from Mexico?


36 posted on 04/19/2009 8:08:45 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Raycpa
I would not be surprised if we manufacture the majority of hand guns in the world

Neither would I but that's hardly the point is it. The cartels do not stand up to the army and police with handguns. They have fully automatic AK47's and the like, which they do not buy in the US. Even if they were available here, why should they? They can get them cheaper from their socialist friends elsewhere.

All this drivel is not about the Mexican drug cartels anyway. It is about domestic guncontrol and eventual confiscation. I sincerely hope no one has forgotten that Obama is committed to disarming the citizenry, and he is right now setting the stage to do it through the back door of 'domestic security.'

37 posted on 04/19/2009 8:15:36 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sub-Driver

That is funny coming from a liar who no knowledge of firearms has never fired a gun to keep repeating this lie.


38 posted on 04/19/2009 8:16:54 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Devil is a liar and the father of all lies.

He has a wonderfully enthusiastic disciple in 0bama.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerors who have allowed subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall." -Adolf Hitler

39 posted on 04/19/2009 8:37:50 AM PDT by Gritty (The right to bear arms is one more guarantee against arbitrary government tyranny-Hubert Humphrey)
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To: KeyLargo

I just emailed everyone on my email list. Including my 82 year old parents. I gave them the address for a free NRA membership. It’s at least something we can do. Thanks for the link.. appreciated!


40 posted on 04/19/2009 8:39:31 AM PDT by hot4plasma
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To: bgill

That’s what I said.. if Mexico is so interested in getting ride of United States guns from their country then they should be for securing the border.

But see their drug of choice is illegals coming here and sending their money home and that drug is much more powerful then anything the cartels sell.


41 posted on 04/19/2009 8:44:27 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: oldleft
He’s getting ready for an end around. He won’t dare try to take our guns away, but he will limit production. Sure, you can own a gun, you just can’t manufacture one. Believe me, he’s setting up to go after gun manufacturers.

Nope. Ammo and cartridge components [for reloading].

Obama will eliminate what you feed your boom sticks.
42 posted on 04/19/2009 9:14:05 AM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: CaptSkip

Is there any ammo left in the US? It’s been practically sold out everywhere since November. I can’t even imagine how many guns and how much ammo has been sold from Nov. to now. The number must be staggering.


43 posted on 04/19/2009 10:31:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: pgkdan

How bout the latest total B.S. from the obamedia. A poll showing 48% of people are “happy” with the tax rate. HEY! They do not tell you 48% pay no taxes. Who would not be happy?


44 posted on 04/19/2009 11:17:49 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
0bowdown lies!

The U.S. government is doing most of the "gun running" from the U.S.

The Cockroach and the Lightswitch: A Spotlight on the Gunshow-Loophole-Mexican-Narco-Nexus Lie

Here is another article with similar information.

The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S

In 2007-2008, 29,000 guns were recovered from crime scenes in Mexico. Exactly 5114 were traced to origins in the US. That is 17.6%. AFAIK not one of those guns was traced to a "gun shop on the border." Gun dealers have to submit paperwork on every gun they buy for resale. Yet not a single dealer, to my knowledge, has been arrested.

0bama, Holder and Mz Clintoon all know this. They are telling lies cut from whole cloth.


45 posted on 04/19/2009 12:32:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah, and 90 percent of the drugs up here are from Mexico. All it proves is that the border needs to be secured!


46 posted on 04/19/2009 12:40:31 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Goebbels would be proud.

No, no. Not George Gobel. Josef Goebbels.

47 posted on 04/19/2009 1:43:35 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Who, ironically, was also known as “Lonesome” Josef Goebbels. At least that’s what Martin Bormann called him/


48 posted on 04/19/2009 3:22:01 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("No symbols where none intended"--Beckett)
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To: Texas Eagle

Who, ironically, was also known as “Lonesome” Josef Goebbels. At least that’s what Martin Bormann called him/


49 posted on 04/19/2009 3:30:10 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("No symbols where none intended"--Beckett)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama is simply following socialist Ingsoc. Whenever facts don’t fit the agenda, change the facts. No problem.


50 posted on 04/19/2009 6:18:19 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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