Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 04/19/2009 8:25:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Boehner: CO2 threat to environment 'almost comical' @ 10:59 am by Michael O'Brien
House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) seemed to cast doubt on evidence that carbon emissions spur climate change during an interview Sunday morning on ABC.
"The idea that carbon dioxide is a carcinogen that is harmful to our environment is almost comical," Boehner said Sunday morning on ABC. "Every time we exhale, we emit carbon dioxide."
Boehner said that while it is "clear" there has been change in the global environment, the extent to which climate change is man-made is still unclear.
"I think it is an issue," he said, though Boehner declined to offer specifics beyond the traditional GOP approach of pushing for alternative and nuclear power in addition to increased oil and gas production.
"The question is what is the proper answer, and a responsible answer."
Boehner rejected the Obama administration's preferred cap-and-trade system, arguing that it'd unacceptably threaten the U.S. economy.
"It's pretty clear that if we don't work with other industrialized nations over the world, we're going to ship millions of jobs overseas," he said.
I want to encourage people to email Boehner and congratulate him on resisting the ridiculous notion that the activities of man can have any appreciable affect on the global climate.
He is the first one since Inhofe to put up any resistance to this hoax and I would love to see his spine stiffened further.
CO2 is PLANT FOOD!
I'm just saying:)
Amen. Boehner is right on the money.
Go John!
All you Greenie-Weenies: If you really want to do the entire planet a favor by limiting CO2 emissions, please just HOLD YOUR BREATH...FOREVER!!
Lets see now....in biology we were taught that plants breathe CO2, and exhale oxygen. Humans breathe oxygen, and exhale CO2.
If we cut CO2, plants will suffocate. Vegetarian left winger envirowackos will suffocate.....along with the rest of the human race.
How can anyone with sense take away carbon from a carbon based life that includes the whole Earth??
Stupidity is a threat to civilization. Stupidity is almost exclusive to left wingers. So that means that left wingers are a threat to civilization......
I SAY WE CUT LEFT WING STUPIDITY!
Great sign to bring to the Earth Day rallies.
You Exhale CO2
Any Questions?
If you really think about this 4th grade science, then you realize even if there is a lot of CO2 in the atmosphere. Then that is great for plant life on the planet. After all plants, trees, etc... breath CO2 and release O2.
This nothing but a fraud from Marxist that want to redistribute the wealth of our great nation to the rest of the world. I guess in order to keep most Socialist and Communist governments in business.
With all the new taxes that Obama is trying to get through. He is going to kill our economy. Obama is either clueless or knows exactly what he is doing. Pick your poison. That is who are president is, and I believe he is going to try to secure his spot by legalizing all 30 million (not the 10 million lie from the government) Illegal aliens. Basically neutralizing our vote.
Wonderful how our government works.
Without CO2 all of the plants will die.
Agree!!
Well we’ve got to stop that! LOL
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -etl
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change
ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm
The Obama, Pelosi, Reid Comedy Tour
Coming to a Electric Generating Plant near You. Laugh when your Electric Bill goes way UP.
Fall down Laughing when your Neighbor gets a $ 4,000 Tax Break to put $30,000 worth of alternative energy Solar Panels on his Roof, while the Taxes you pay go towards financing the other $60,000 to the Solar Panel Manufacturer.
They are also calling "water" a green house gas = pollutant. These people are wackos and I can't believe Boehner isn't taking a stronger stand (well, I can actually, I just don't know why). Every Republican should be pounding on this. It amazes me that so many people do not know what CO2 is.
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution
by Stephen Dinan
Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.
By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.
lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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Obama's "Climate Czar" is on the same page with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro...
From GreenLeft.org
VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005
excerpts...
"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."
"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."
"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."
--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm
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Here's a link to an image of a Google cache of the Socialist International's webpage that included Obama's "Climate Czar" Carol Browner. It was found by FReeper, Publius6961:
http://24ahead.com/images/si-csws-cache-as-of-011009.jpg
You’ve hit the nail on the head! Going one step further, how about a tax on left wing stupidity? If that ever passed, the federal budget would be balanced and the national debt would be paid off within 36 months. (/sarc)
can the tax be retroactive?
Can we penalize stupid leftists who predicted an ice age in the 70’s?
Can we penalize the pro-embryonic stem cell folks once it’s proven once and for all their “science” grows tumors, and adult stem cells actually help people?
The article said — Boehner said that while it is “clear” there has been change in the global environment, the extent to which climate change is man-made is still unclear.
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Yes..., he’s right. There has been change in the global environment. Sometimes it cools and sometimes it warms... :-)
But, no to the other part. It is clear that this is not “anthropogenic global warming” (i.e., “man-made” global warming). Be sure to use that term to help you in your conversations with others.
HOWEVER, before you start talking you must see this for your information...
It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...
THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...
The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.
“The Great Global Warming Swindle”
If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]
It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.
Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]
Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]
There is NO man made global warming. CO2 is a plant food and necessary to sustain life on earth. We, and all life on earth, are carbon based, without carbon there would be no life.
Let’s see we’re carbon based.... that means that larger people represent more “harmful, dangerous, planet earth destroying carbon”. Guess we need large people to buy carbon credits? :)
Almost? It’s only ALMOST comical because it’s so freakin’ idiotic that anyone with a tiny bit of a brain should recognize what an incredibly stupid position this is.
Can you put it on a bumper sticker?
Just a few months back we were in deep freeze, now it's in the 70s.
Climate change is natural.
The idea that carbon dioxide is a carcinogen that is harmful to our environment is almost comical," Boehner said"carbon dioxide is a carcinogen"
Without carbon dioxide (CO2) there's no plants, no grass, no wheat, no corn, no Amazon (cough) 'rain forest' or ANY equatorial 'Rain Forests (jungles), no 'old growth' trees, no Redwoods, no giant Sequoias to see, and no forests to harvest lumber for houses for us to live in. And without all those plants, trees and jungles, we have .. NO OXYGEN.
And last I checked us humans, all mammals, even amphibians, kind of need that to live (/s). Even Fish need oxygen in the water, like the precious Snail Darter. (/s)
I'd think that these moonbats would know that every living creature on God's green earth needs... 'OXYGEN'. And to get all that oxygen they should also know that we first need carbon dioxide (CO2).
Ergo, the more (CO2) we have, the MORE oxygen we'll have. And that is GOOD.
How about
“HOLD YOUR CO2 UNTIL YOUR FACE TURNS BLUE!”
They need to read up on what CO2 is and then correct their ruling.
“while it is “clear” there has been change in the global environment”
What in the hell makes him concede that point?
There are always changes to the “global environment”, the stupidity is that it is man-made.
Climate change constantly, but naturally
Can you try again?
We're the outsiders.
I once saw Daley dining with the editor of the Chicago Sun-Times who just bashed him in a column. They were laughing and chatting like two old buds. It's a club.
Oh in that case let me just forget you led us into 2 historic election losses in a row. The Isaiah Thomas of electoral politics.
"The Keeling curve continues to show a steady rise in CO2 in the atmosphere during the period since oil and coal were discovered and used by man. Carbon dioxide has increased from the 1958 reading of 315 to 385 parts per million in 2008. But, despite the increases, it is still only a trace gas in the atmosphere. The percentage of the atmosphere that is CO2 remains tiny, about 3.8 hundredths of one percent by volume and 41 hundredths of one percent by weight. And, by the way, only a fraction of that fraction is from mankind’s use of fossil fuels. The best estimate is that atmospheric CO2 is 75 percent natural and 25 percent the result of civilization."
I know that most people are supposed to have learned this in some science class in grade school; but, either they didn't or have forgotten this fact. How in the world can such a small amount of ANYTHING be the cause of the cataclysmic events we are told are going to happen if we don't do "something".
It is the same with most environmental laws. Look at the Sacramento salmon. The problem is in the ocean. There is a cyclical change called the Pacific Decadal oscillation. The leftists jump on the declining portion of the cycle, attribute it to anthropogenic causes and regulate the heck out of any land or water use by man that has an economic dimension. In such a way, they vastly expand government, undermine the integrity of private property rights, reallocate resources to other parties and destroy the capitalist economy.
Same thing for spotted owls and logging (actually an issue of competition with the barred owl - not human caused) and numerous other regulatory schemes.
When will the public catch on that so-called environmentalists are a front for destruction of our core American freedoms and beliefs?
Well said. You'd think that elementary school science would rule this argument, but no. Apparently it's no longer taught in our new age schools.
You Exhale CO2 Any Questions?
Unfortunately, most moonbats would look at you like you'd lost your mind. They'd have plenty of questions for you.
Don't bother trying to explain basic biology to them. You'll just waste a bunch of CO2.
I think on this one Boehner will go to the mat as much as he can. Ohio is still a coal producing state even though none are in his district we get most of our electricy from coal burning plants that help power the whole east coast.
BUmper sticker “All who think CO2 causes global warming, hold your breathe”
Works for me.
Newsweek and Time said a new ice age was coming back in the 70’s. What is interesting was that they were looking at data from 1945, and the most rapid industrialization in world history, throwing tons of Co2 into the atmosphere and global temperatures had gone down. It disproves the direct relationship between CO2 and global temperature. They also said pollution was reflecting the sun back into space and cooling the Earth - what happened to that theory - isn’t China spitting out one massive sun screen? It is their logic that falls down not Boehner’s. They are inconsistent and still want to throw a trillion dollar tax at us. But you see - environmentalists are rich spoiled white yuppies and for some reason are not held to the same standards of truth as anyone else.
The last 10 years have seen the same reduction in temperature and the whacky greens are saying volcanic eruptions are cooling the Earth. Well then how much is derived from man, and how much from nature. Volcanoes throw out massive CO2 plumes - why is the Earth cooling?
And by the way - when the CO2 had gone up as Al Gore talked about through out the geologic past - what happened to those tipping points, why did an ice age come? We should have melted down forever - yet the tipping points seemingly went away, and the CO2 receded.
Global Warming is the Enron of Scientific Analysis. When bankers were on a huge conference call questioning Enron’s story, the infamous response from Jeff Skilling was to call the questioner an “A$$hole for not getting it.” - This is precisely that same reaction we are hearing from the whack jobs on the green left. It is calling names and ducking serious questions. I say this - I didn’t understand Enron’s credit because no one could explain it to me and I cannot understand Global Warming because of the same reason. Don’t call me names, or don’t tell me ‘consensus’, I remember the ‘consensus’ on Enron was very favorable too. Hey Green-Job you are making the claim that you can predict the weather and humans are changing it, but so far you have been dead wrong in your predictability. All your theories go back on themselves and don’t make sense. Explain it to me. Explain the drop in temperature - or maybe your model has a tough time with reality.
Stop the hysteria.
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