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White House: US has tools needed to protect nation
breitbart ^ | 4/19/09 | AP

Posted on 04/19/2009 9:52:13 AM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House on Sunday pushed back aggressively against criticism that national security has been undermined by releasing classified Bush-era interrogation memos over the objections of some former CIA chiefs. "We are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe," senior presidential adviser David Axelrod said. "And we don't believe and the president of the United States does not believe that this is a contest between our values and our security. He thinks we can honor both and execute both. And that's what he's going to do."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: house; tools; us; white
In your face politics.
1 posted on 04/19/2009 9:52:13 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...

The List, ping


2 posted on 04/19/2009 9:52:31 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

The Obama administration has a lot of tools. But why get personal about it?


3 posted on 04/19/2009 9:56:09 AM PDT by hometoroost (Eine Reich, Eine Volk, Eine Teleprompter)
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To: Nachum

Well, at least the Messiah is fullfilling his promise to have the most “transparent” administration.

The same promise of “safety” i’m sure also applies... as long as your a terrorist on US soil.


4 posted on 04/19/2009 9:57:24 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Nachum
Yea!I'm so comforted knowing Obama can defend the United States.NOT!

If anything he's doing everything he can to undermine the security of the country and by releasing that classified information to our enemies he's proved it.

5 posted on 04/19/2009 9:57:28 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Nachum

Hahahahaha, best one I’ve heard all day.


6 posted on 04/19/2009 9:58:03 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Nachum
In his own bizarre twisted logic, Mr. Munch-a-rod is 'right': "There is no need for torture because the Dear Leader doesn't think America is worth defending against Islamic nutjobs.
7 posted on 04/19/2009 9:58:04 AM PDT by kromike
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To: Nachum
But does the nation have the tools to protect itself against Resident Obama?
8 posted on 04/19/2009 9:59:11 AM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Nachum
...senior presidential adviser David Axelrod said. "And we don't believe and the president of the United States does not believe that this is a contest between our values and our security. He thinks we can honor both and execute both. And that's what he's going to do."

I guess the secret plan is to have our enemies laugh themselves to death.

9 posted on 04/19/2009 10:00:39 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Nachum
...US has tools needed to protect nation...

No leaders with common sense, however.

10 posted on 04/19/2009 10:03:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Nachum
We are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe

Uh... teleprompters don't count.

11 posted on 04/19/2009 10:05:13 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: Nachum
When we get hit... and it is just a matter of time.. closing Gitmo and spewing lies like this one, will bring them down. Isn't it a shame we have a President that will allow who knows how many Americans to be slaughtered by his muslim brothers and allies? I hope the American Idol generation has or will learn its lesson!

LLS

12 posted on 04/19/2009 10:07:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: hometoroost
The Obama administration has a lot of tools. But why get personal about it?

LOL!

13 posted on 04/19/2009 10:08:12 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: hometoroost

“The Obama administration has a lot of tools.”

Right, all the tools are now in the administration. We know where they are and we don’t have to search for them.


14 posted on 04/19/2009 10:11:14 AM PDT by enat
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To: Nachum

“We are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe,”
____________________________

Of course they do. They have lists of all right-wing organizations and their members and with the new information czar they’ll have the ability to learn everything they need to “keep this country safe.”


15 posted on 04/19/2009 10:11:49 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Nachum; jaycee; bert; MHGinTN; jazusamo; Grammy; NellieMae; Tennessee Nana

ping.


16 posted on 04/19/2009 10:14:30 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Nachum

I have lots of tools in my garage. If I actually spent some time using them I’d be adding a lot of value to my home.


17 posted on 04/19/2009 10:14:45 AM PDT by SeanOGuano (`)
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To: Nachum

Sure. But unfortunately, the US is lead by a tool.


18 posted on 04/19/2009 10:17:33 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Nachum

“We are absolutely confident “
Overconfident. Prefident Obama
From the Online Dictionary:
“Prefident

Pref”i*dent\, a. [Cf. L. praefidens overconfident. See Pre-, and Confident.] Trusting beforehand; hence, overconfident. [Obs.] —Baxter.


19 posted on 04/19/2009 10:22:02 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Nachum
are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe," senior presidential adviser David Axelrod said.

Well what tools are they? How are you going to use them. Who are you going to use them against? How long will it take? You need to give us dates and deadlines. Did you fart today?

When Bush was in office the lefties wanted to know every tiny detail about everything he was doing. Now it's, "just trust us".

Not in my lifetime.

20 posted on 04/19/2009 10:22:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to 0bama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: dr_who

It sounds like David Axelrod is running the country. Or is he just the National Security Advisor?


21 posted on 04/19/2009 10:25:05 AM PDT by abclily
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To: girlangler; Nachum

The boy president doesn’t have a clue how to protect our nation and doesn’t want to.


22 posted on 04/19/2009 10:25:35 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: abclily

Hard to tell, isn’t it?


23 posted on 04/19/2009 10:27:13 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Nachum
White House: US has tools needed to protect nation

Yeah, that's what's so scary.

Teddy Roosevelt: "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

Barry Obama: "Swagger loud and brandish a limp spaghetti noodle."

24 posted on 04/19/2009 10:28:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Our flag still waves! And we shall NEVER let them tear it down!" - Alan Keyes, 4-15-09)
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To: girlangler

Ping-a-ling!
So glad to meet you yesterday, what a sweet gal you are! By the way, I love your tagline! “I bet they do”....LOL!

Certainly did enjoy everyone yesterday! Just a great day and the weather was absolutely perfect!


25 posted on 04/19/2009 10:33:12 AM PDT by jaycee
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To: Nachum
Who am I to argue with Fools and Lackeys of that Magnitude”
26 posted on 04/19/2009 10:40:09 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

Oh “Tools” no problem same thing!


27 posted on 04/19/2009 10:41:15 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Nachum
"We are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe," senior presidential adviser David Axelrod said. "And we don't believe and the president of the United States does not believe that this is a contest between our values and our security. He thinks we can honor both and execute both. And that's what he's going to do."

The genius community organizer made himself the 'absolutely know-all, do-all king of the world!

NOBODY knows more than he does.

Well - we're waiting to see some of this in action. So far, it's just so much hot air.

Wonder what his story will be when he is proven WRONG!

28 posted on 04/19/2009 10:43:31 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: Nachum

The fact is, they don’t CARE if the USA is protected from jihad terror attacks.


29 posted on 04/19/2009 10:57:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: jaycee; All

A Nation too paralyzed to only allow interrogation techniques of foreign terror suspects, or enemy combatants, less “enhanced” than those used on volunteers in a popular American reality-TV show, is a nation that will never see Victory because it does not value Victory enough.

On, April 17, 2009, the MSN headlines began, reports and commentary detailed what the NY Times lead article described as “brutal interrogation techniques”. President Obama, CNN commentators from the left and right (Gergen; Rollins), ACLU spokesman (Jameel Jaffer), law professor Jonathan Turley and a host of MSNBC agitator/spokesman, in response to the disclosures feigned horror and anguish, and decried the use of such techniques by the CIA against select terror suspects following the 9 - 11 attacks as “torture”, and repudiated as immoral and unlawful, the actions of the US in so doing. The specific techniques which were the basis of this daylong marathon of condemnation, and which have been and continue to be the basis for an ongoing series of international apologies by President Obama, intended in part to demean and stigmatize the prior administration’s foreign policy policies, were comprised, it was shown by the released memos, by the following (in addition to a proposed but unused plan to place a catepillar in the cell of one uncooperative detainee intended to distress the detainee into cooperation with interrogators):

1. The Attention Grab: The interrogator forcefully grabs the shirt front of the prisoner and shakes him.

2. Attention Slap: An open-handed slap aimed at causing pain and triggering fear.

3. The Belly Slap: A hard open-handed slap to the stomach. The aim is to cause pain, but not internal injury. Doctors consulted advised against using a punch, which could cause lasting internal damage.

4. Long Time Standing: This technique is described as among the most effective. Prisoners are forced to stand, handcuffed and with their feet shackled to an eye bolt in the floor for more than 40 hours. Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are effective in yielding confessions.

5. The Cold Cell: The prisoner is left to stand naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees. Throughout the time in the cell the prisoner is doused with cold water.

6. Water Boarding: The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner’s face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt. “

Note:  Water Boarding specifically has been reported to have been used on a very low number (3) of “high value” detainees.  Water Boarding is a procedure routinely used upon US Military personnel in training to handle hostile capture and interrogation.  Several reporters have voluntarily undergone “water boarding”, which has its effect generally in less that two minutes.  No one seems to enjoy the experience.

In contrast consider a formerly popular reality tv show that grossed over $600 MM while broadcasting volunatary contests for a $50K prize award and a “no fear” designation for the winners, and which broadcast in the relevant period of 2001 -2006 in the US, “Fear Factor”. A representative sample of the events for which there appeared to be no limit of volunteers during the shows run on NBC and in syndication, as well as a widespread popular audience, included the following:

1.) Fear Factor Pizza - Episode 317 (Season 3): This stunt must have made some of the contestants give up on eating pizza ever again. With a crust made from cow bile, coagulated blood paste for sauce, rancid cheese and topping choices like live red worms and fish eyes, Although most contestants ended up puking up their tasty treat, all contestants managed to complete the stunt and move on to the next round.

2.) Rat Bobbing - Episode 416 (Season 4): During Couples’ Fear Factor, the girls had to lie down in a plexi-glass tank, and then were covered in 400 rats. The guys then had to retrieve ten chicken’s feet from the tank, using only their mouths! One couple bowed out of the stunt cuz it was just too gross! The couple who won this stunt won an all-expenses paid trip to Las Vegas .

3.) Eat Buffalo Testicles - Episode 104 (Season 1): Ever tried a Rocky Mountain Oyster? Peeps in Colorado think they’re pretty tasty when they’re breaded and fried, but bull’s testicles aren’t as tastily prepared on Fear Factor. Contestants had to eat two large bull’s testicles in four minutes or else they would be eliminated. Before being able to eat the testicles, contestants would need to bite through and then peel back a veiny membrane that was holding the “meat” inside. - only the two guys were able to complete the stunt.

4.) Bug Body Bag - Episode 433 (Season 4): This All-Female edition of Fear Factor included one truly gruesome stunt. Contestants were stuck inside a morgue drawer, in a body bag filled with giant hissing cockroaches, flesh-eating worms, crickets and stink beetles. Locked in the pitch black of the morgue drawer, the girls were locked in chains and had to fumble around to find the right key to unlock themselves.

5.) Eat African Cave-Dwelling Spiders - Episode 408 (Season 4): This stunt was not for elimination but instead to win a brand new car. Contestants lined up at a table full of African cave-dwelling spiders and had to grab hold of them, and then eat them alive. We’re not talking run-of-the-mill basement spiders either. These bad boys looked like a cross between a spider and a crab and even had the little pinchers to prove it. This stunt brought one contestant to tears and she almost forfeited the challenge. In the end, all of the contestants ate a couple of spiders. The winner ate a whopping 12!

6.) Cow Eye Juice - Episode 403 (Season 4): For this Fear Factor stunt, contestants had to stick their face in a jar full of cow eyeballs, pick them up without using their hands and then puncture them with their teeth, letting all of the juices fall in to a cup. Once the cup was full, the contestants would then have to drink the cow eyeball juice. As if it’s not bad enough putting slimy, gooey eyeballs in your mouth, you would then have to drink the ooze from inside the eye too!

7.) Eat Horse Rectum - Episode 313 (Season 3): This challenge started out with the contestants playing a game of horseshoes. They would get three tosses. There were four rings around the horseshoe peg with the numbers 8, 6, 7 and then 8 again. If the contestant got their horseshoe around the peg, that would give them a score of 0. The goal of this game? To see how many inches of horse rectum the contestants would have to eat! Both girls attempted the stunt, but only one was able to complete it which meant that she won $25,000 dollars for choking back 13 inches.

8.) Fear Factor Spaghetti - Episode 211 (Season 2): Another Fear Factor specialty was served up for this stunt. Fear Factory Spaghetti was made up of live night crawlers and coagulated blood balls. Mmmm. This stunt was so gross that none of the contestants made it through their plate of spaghetti. Wonder why?

9.) Intestine Chew, Milk and Chug - Episode 422 (Season 4): Here’s yet another stunt that involved the contestants sitting in a glass coffin covered in something disgusting. This time around, Fear Factor’s weapon of choice was cow intestines. Contestants were covered in hundreds of pounds of intestines which they then had to puncture with their mouth, suck out the liquid and fill a glass with it. At the end of course, they had to drink the chunky mixture and hope that they could do it faster than their fellow opponents.

10.) Slugs and Bile - Episode 312 (Season 3): First up on the Fear Factor menu for this stunt were 10, fat, slimy slugs. Each contestant had to choke down their 10 slugs, followed by a shot of cow bile. One contestant tried rubbing the slime from the slugs off on her arm, but that only made them more agitated (making them excrete more goo!).

Note: The above list was complied from a popular internet site for children (Kidzworld).

Not all viewers were unaverse to the Fear Factor stunts. Apparently one viewer had sympathies similar to the weak stomach and timid sensibilities of the MSN commentators and our current crop of national leaders. In January 2005, an episode featuring a stunt involving blended rats aired in its normal prime time slot. Austin Aitken, a part-time paralegal from Cleveland, sued NBC for $2.5 million USD for airing the show, claiming that he felt so disgusted from watching the stunt, his blood pressure rose until he felt dizzy and lightheaded and subsequently vomited. He claimed that his disorientation was so severe that he ran into a doorway and seriously injured himself, however, in March 2005, U.S. District Judge Lesley Wells threw out the lawsuit.(Wikipedia). Apparently, however, the new administration and the democrat congress along with the MSN are aligned with Mr. Aitken and unable to stomach even lesser non-lethal, non injurious efforts to preserve our national security.

When America comes under real attack from foreign states or terrorists as happened in 2001, an American government that fails to value Victory above public relations and political expediency (the ongoing implied that the Bush administration engaged in unlawful conduct - when the truth is opposite - that Bush prolonged the war by years of wasted effort negotiating with the UN and operating with ROE that obscured and delayed an American Victory) America is and will be the loser. Can anyone imagine Gen. Sherman waiting for Justice Department guidance before determining how to prosecute the war?


30 posted on 04/19/2009 11:07:14 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: puppypusher
The democrat party and their goons have long used any means to empower themselves, as confirmed with their using the abortion slaughter of tens-of-millions of alive unborn human beings as a means to empower themselves politically. With the release of the memos they prove once again that nothing matters to demcorats except their empowerment. They have released documents which can in no way help in the war on terrorism or in the ongoing struggle to make America safer, and released the documents for no other reason than to use the 'change' of focus in deflecting away from the huge significance of the Tea Parties. That such a release aides the enemies of this nation means not one damned thing to an O bow ma type. Axelrod can spin it all he likes and order his sycophantic commie enemedia to emphasize his lies, but it does make the releases any more positive for the nation or the war against terrorists. This administration will get millions of Americans killed ... and they will never admit or even realize that their idiotic desire to 'have dialogue in the hope for change' in our relationship with Islamic murderers only aides the murderers. O bow ma and his demon spawn are extremely dangerous for American lives.

Hereafter,when the terrorists kill Americans, know in your heart that it is the sniveling cowardly democrat criminal enterprise party with our blood on their damned hands, though it will be as insignificant to democrats as the river of innocent blood democrats have bathed in from slaughtered alive unborn children.

31 posted on 04/19/2009 11:09:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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' ... but it does NOT make the releases any more positive'
32 posted on 04/19/2009 11:11:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: dr_who

“Sure. But unfortunately, the US is lead by a tool.”

You’ve got this wrong. Its Fool, fool....with an F.


33 posted on 04/19/2009 11:12:54 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Nachum

“We are absolutely confident that we have the tools necessary to get the information we need to keep this country safe,”

Gotcha. Just like they were on 9-10-2001. I could be wrong, but I’d bet that 3000 Americans that came to their horrifying demise the very next day, might not agree.

WHEN we are now attacked, and thousands, hundreds of thousands or even more of American citizens meet a violent death, some of these politicians are going to find that this planet is not big enough for them to find a safe place to hide.


34 posted on 04/19/2009 11:50:56 AM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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