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McCain facing 2010 primary
Politico ^ | Ben Smith

Posted on 04/21/2009 9:25:25 AM PDT by Hawk720

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To: Hawk720
Social conservatives tolerated John McCain as the party's nominee, but never trusted him

Personally, I voted for Palin.

51 posted on 04/21/2009 9:46:47 AM PDT by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: TigersEye; Grunthor; TADSLOS; cripplecreek; DoughtyOne; JoJo Gunn; dcwusmc; bamahead; ...
"John McCain has failed miserably in his duty to secure this nation’s borders and protect the people of Arizona from the escalating violence and lawlessness,” Simcox said in a statement. “He has fought real efforts over the years at every turn, opting to hold our nation’s border security hostage to his amnesty schemes. Coupled with his votes for reckless bailout spending and big government solutions to our nation’s problems, John McCain is out of touch with everyday Arizonans. Enough is enough."
— Chris Simcox, on the announcement of his campaign to unseat Sen. John McCain, RINO-Ariz.

BUMP!!!!

Purge the RINOs!

Dump the treasonous bastard, the Vichy RINO McCain, and his traitorous daughter!

52 posted on 04/21/2009 9:47:43 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: BipolarBob

Heck I would take 1/2 a conservative to get rid of McCain...lol.


53 posted on 04/21/2009 9:48:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: AuntB

What happened to J.D. Hayworth? I thought he was considering a challenge to McCain for Senator.


54 posted on 04/21/2009 9:49:03 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Hawk720

I’m not confident that there also won’t be other social conservatives who will decide to enter this race and end up splitting the conservative votes among each other during the GOP primary. What are conservatives supposed to do about this repeating pattern of having too many conservatives running for certain political offices at the same time and indirectly helping the RINOs to win GOP primaries all over the U.S. and at every political level?


55 posted on 04/21/2009 9:49:53 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: Hawk720; All
NO AMNESTY FOR MCCAIN!

56 posted on 04/21/2009 9:50:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Hawk720

Good. I’ll be happy to contribute to his primary opponent.


57 posted on 04/21/2009 9:50:47 AM PDT by tips up
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To: the long march

“Considering the shape the country is in and the need for conservatives to stand together to save our republic”

Well, I wouldn’t really have to worry about that because a TRUE conservative candidate would NEVER support the atrocity that is abortion!


58 posted on 04/21/2009 9:50:51 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: the long march

And what do you care if he is pro-life? If he gets the other 99% right (hell if he gets immigration right) then I am more than happy

I actually do care. I bet Simcox is pro-life. You can’t care that much for America and be pro-choice.


59 posted on 04/21/2009 9:52:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: gimme1ibertee
On the other...how much legislative or political experience does he have?

Who
Gives
A
Crap?

We already know he's a leader of men and if Arizonan's find about 80% of his philosophy agreeable, then what's the problem? You know for certain what his stance on illegal immigration is and that's a far cry from McLame.

60 posted on 04/21/2009 9:52:55 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Hawk720

I don’t live in Arizona, but if I did, I’d sure be voting AGAINST this wanker. John, it’s time to retire. Take a hint, and take a hike.


61 posted on 04/21/2009 9:53:36 AM PDT by redhead (REMEMBER DAN'S BAKE SALE!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

His daughter is indeed unfortunate, but she isn’t a traitor.

John on the other hand has ventured down that road IMO. His anti-American stances on some issues have cause me to believe the guy hates that we are a sovereign nation, and would like to change that ASAP.

He is indeed unfit to hold public office. I’ll have to donate to Simcox. I’d also be willing to go door to door for him a few times.

I live in the next state over, but McCain has been screwing the whole nation over from his Senate perch, and I’d love to see him voted off it.


62 posted on 04/21/2009 9:55:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Hawk720

Good News he has my support..


63 posted on 04/21/2009 9:56:59 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: rabscuttle385
Dump the treasonous bastard, the Vichy RINO McCain, and his traitorous daughter!

Never heard of 'em. Do they make coffee mugs or something? 

64 posted on 04/21/2009 9:57:14 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Stop the pirates in Washington D.C.)
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To: gimme1ibertee
On the other...how much legislative or political experience does he have?

Good question....how much legislative or political experience did the Founders have?

(hint - they wanted us to have a citizen legislature for a reason)

65 posted on 04/21/2009 9:57:14 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Third Parties are for the weak, fearful, and ineffectual among us.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Probably more than Stuart Smalley.


66 posted on 04/21/2009 9:58:20 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: gimme1ibertee
"On the other...how much legislative or political experience does he have?"

As opposed to McLame, huh.

A wooden cigar store Indian would be preferable.
Seriously.

A carving c/wouldn't hurt the GOP.

67 posted on 04/21/2009 9:59:14 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Hawk720; AuntB; pissant
Yes, the GOP will try to destroy Simcox and the NRSC will support McCain.

The GOP is very corporatist in this sense and will always, barring an indictment, support the incumbent.

The last election was the people's indictment of Sen. McCain. The only reason he got the support he did was because of his running mate and the thought of his opponent's policies were abhorrent.

Simcox better prepare himself and get well versed on many issues, not just immigration. Also, he better learn how to respond to the race baiters on this issue.

68 posted on 04/21/2009 9:59:20 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: the long march

Along the lines of what you said, if he gets even 75% right it’s a damned site better than 15%.

McStain has been a blight on our nation.


69 posted on 04/21/2009 9:59:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I’m also in Pa and I agree with you about Toomey. This time Spector won’t have the weight of Santorum and Bush coming in and campaigning for him. He barely won last time. However, the Republican party (via John Cornyn) is already lining up on Snarlin Arlen’s side. I’m sure they’ll do the same for McCain. Which is why I belong to the Republican party, but don’t proclaim it. They are interested in electing republicans, not conservatives.


70 posted on 04/21/2009 10:01:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (iIt)
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To: avacado

Word of advice to Chris Simcox, Make a call to that Alaska governor just to see if she would be interested in campaigning for you.

LOL!!! That would be classic!!!

McCain would poop his pants if that happened LOL


71 posted on 04/21/2009 10:05:44 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: AreaMan; Hawk720; AuntB; pissant
Yes, the GOP will try to destroy Simcox and the NRSC will support McCain.

The GOP is very corporatist in this sense and will always, barring an indictment, support the incumbent.

Well, we the people need to stand up and step in for Simcox, Hayworth, or whoever the best primary opponent against McCain ends up being.

We need to organise to let the GOP (and this applies most to registered GOP) know that they will not get a dime from us until they support conservative candidates - even in primaries against entrenched, RINO incumbents. Not a single dime. In fact, we need to organise our own CONSERVATIVE PAC which is completely unaffiliated with the GOP in any way, shape, or form and which will be dedicated to supporting CONSERVATIVE candidates - whatever their party label might be - in elections.

I don't believe we need to "throw all incumbents out." I'd kinda like to see folks like Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, etc. stay in office. But I don't believe in rallying around the incumbent either, if he or she is a RINO, just because they have my party's label.

And face it - the issue of illegal immigration alone is important enough to toss McCain onto the heap, even looking aside at all the other junk he's done.

Folks, can you imagine what would happen if 10 million conservative families (and they are out there, yes) each gave $100 to a conservative PAC? That'd be $1 BILLION dollars. That's a lot more money than Obama had. Imagine if we conservatives all went in and pooled our resources and used them to flood conservative candidates like Simcox and Toomey with support?

72 posted on 04/21/2009 10:13:31 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Third Parties are for the weak, fearful, and ineffectual among us.)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
How quickly we forget Reagan’s commandments. McCain is the least of our problems at the Federal level right now.

I understand and concur with Regan's commandments...I don't believe that McCain qualifies as a Republican though.

73 posted on 04/21/2009 10:18:30 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Hawk720

If God answers my prayers, Snowe, Collings, Spector and McCain will be thrown out on their liberal butts while real conservatives win each state.

God does give us miracles daily, it could happen....


74 posted on 04/21/2009 10:20:06 AM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Agreed, a PAC that is more conservative with $1bil. would get some attention.

PAC's are expensive to set up and administer. We need to as the Warren Zevon song said, "..send money, guns and lawyers..."

Maybe not the guns but the money and lawyers are definitely required. And then how do you reach 10 million families and convince them to donate, more money needed for fundraising?

Look, you are right a $1billion would get some attention since money is what talks in politics.

Also, I just threw out some possible problems but don't take that as an objection to your idea, just some questions on my part as to the mechanics of setting up a PAC.

75 posted on 04/21/2009 10:21:51 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: Hawk720
Hmmmmm CLICK HERE
76 posted on 04/21/2009 10:26:35 AM PDT by meandog (There are bad no dogs, only bad owners--the only good bad owner is one mauled by a good bad dog!)
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To: Hawk720

Senator McCain, I have really admired your military past including your tribulations from the Forrestal disaster and being a POW. However, you have been one lousy politician. The condition of the GOP and to some extent, the country has your fingerprints on it.

All I can say is.....Go CHRIS GO!!!!


77 posted on 04/21/2009 10:27:09 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: ravingnutter

samey-same...


78 posted on 04/21/2009 10:33:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Cris better figure out if he can also beat the Dem candidate. My guess is that AZ Dems are chortling over this since they know Simcox is not a heavyweight conservative. It will be interesting to see if another conserv Pub also gets into the primary battle.


79 posted on 04/21/2009 10:33:09 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: Hawk720
McCain?
 
This McCain?
 
FAIL!
 
The GOP should put a dog in the fight... who's actually intent upon wining.   McWeevil wouldn't hunt Penny Pritzker in 2008.  He laid down like a woosie.  Why should we believe Juan would act any differently in 2012?
 
And with his pro-homotional daughter on the loose....  maybe Juan should just STFU and take his pension.

80 posted on 04/21/2009 10:33:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Hawk720

Social conservatives tolerated John McCain as the party’s nominee, but never trusted him, and he now appears to be facing a serious primary from the right in Arizona next year.

Chris Simcox, the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and a prominent figure in the anti-immigration movement, is announcing today he’s resigned from the group to run in the 2010 Senate primary.


Toomey in Pennsylvania and Simcox on Arizona. Strong candidates to unseat liberal repukes. Even if they win the primary and lose the general, who would notice any difference?


81 posted on 04/21/2009 10:58:42 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Hawk720

McCain needs to go back to AZ and cry in his wife’s beer!


82 posted on 04/21/2009 10:59:06 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Hawk720

In 2006 Pederson (D)was only able to attract 43.5 to Kyl’s 53.3% (a libertarian candidate received 3.2%), so it’s likely a quite conservative Republican could win the general if he or she defeated McCain in the primary. OTOH if such a candidate was a one trick pony - and the trick was immigration - that might not be so good; the issue might have been rendered largely moot by “immigration reform”, or other issues might be of much greater importance.


83 posted on 04/21/2009 10:59:45 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Hawk720

It’s lonk past time to make RINOs like McCain extinct.


84 posted on 04/21/2009 11:00:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Hawk720

Does he have a Web Page for this yet. I can’t wait to contribute.


85 posted on 04/21/2009 11:03:47 AM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: AuntB

AZ could roll out a roadkill coyote carcass and I’d support that before I would McCain.


86 posted on 04/21/2009 11:38:50 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; All
"AZ could roll out a roadkill coyote carcass and I’d support that before I would McCain."

And I agree completely!

But don't underestimate McCain. He is so tied into the Republican Party power structure that he will be hard to dislodge.

McCain has been Chairman of the International Republican Institute since 1992 -- it's been said that "the IRI does the job that the CIA used to do" and it is heavily entwined in big business, the government and the Party.

McCain is a survivor, as witnessed by his prison camp survival -- and he's probably NOT going to go quietly, however much we all wish he would! As long as corporations and special interests are willing to fill his campaign coffers, he's got a good shot at returning again and again.

87 posted on 04/21/2009 11:57:56 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

hence mccain selling his daughter’s time in front of homosexual gruops contributing money to rino pacs.


88 posted on 04/21/2009 12:00:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hawk720

It is time for some payback!

McCain is going down!!!


89 posted on 04/21/2009 12:15:48 PM PDT by Thunder Pig (Join the Macon County Tax Day Tea Party! http://franklin-nc.net)
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To: the long march
Awww! You know what they say about assuming....:)
If you had read the rest of my comment,I said that I thought perhaps this guy couldn't do any worse,and may be better than McCain. I was only making an observation on the content of the article,not castigating the guy.
For what it's worth, i'd vote for the guy over McCain any day of the week,and (if I worked for ACORN) twice on Sunday.
90 posted on 04/21/2009 12:51:30 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (For the sake of our Republic....RAISE HOLY HELL!)
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To: numberonepal
Oh,please...Chill.
There's no problem.
I simply made an observation...you know,asked a question.
Something wrong with that?
91 posted on 04/21/2009 12:55:30 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (For the sake of our Republic....RAISE HOLY HELL!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
You know...I don't think that the question I posed was so out of line. I only asked because it's OBVIOUS that the clowns in charge are totally clueless,and,by the way, I 100% agree with Simcox and his stance on immigration.
I was just curious as to how much,if any,experience he had.
Good grief....will you guys chill out??

(personally,i'd prefer Joe Arpaio,but that ain't happening...)
92 posted on 04/21/2009 1:00:41 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (For the sake of our Republic....RAISE HOLY HELL!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

McCain being the 60th vote is a big problem. We have to get our own house in order before we think about anything else.


93 posted on 04/21/2009 1:09:47 PM PDT by Bull Market (The Neo-Con experiment failed. John McCain deserved to lose.)
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To: AuntB
The gop will destroy Simcox. And he’s given them plenty of ammo. Yes, if I were in Az, I’d vote for Simcox over McCain, but AZ needs a better answer to McCain than Simcox.

I agree with you. I would like few things more than to see McCain lose his seat. But when I read the first paragraph here, my heart sank and I thought "Oh, no... not Simcox. Surely we can do better."

Wasn't JD Hayworth a potential candidate? Now more than ever folks should convince him to run, IMO.

94 posted on 04/21/2009 1:30:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: wk4bush2004

Or a real conservative might also take the view that this is a medical decision to be made by mom and dad and the government has NO business being involved. Roe v Wade was a disaster and needs to be overturned but I am not convinced that government has any need to be involved one way or the other on this issue


95 posted on 04/21/2009 1:32:18 PM PDT by the long march
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To: gimme1ibertee

Ba da bing


96 posted on 04/21/2009 1:34:02 PM PDT by the long march
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To: DiogenesLaertius
How quickly we forget Reagan’s commandments.

How sad it is that someone would so badly misinterpret the CA GOP's "11th Commandment" to suggest that Reagan would be against legitimate primary challenges or would oppose open discussion about the issues, records, or character of GOP candidates.

97 posted on 04/21/2009 1:34:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: the long march

So now real conservatives embrace feminist doctrine? Under that logic, no liberal dictate should ever be overturned.


98 posted on 04/21/2009 1:35:37 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: gimme1ibertee
I'm chill.



No wait. Not yet.

OK



All right. Now I'm chill.
99 posted on 04/21/2009 1:45:20 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Luke21

Did you read my whole post? I said Roe v Wade should be overturned but meddlesome government is not a conservative view point.


100 posted on 04/21/2009 1:59:50 PM PDT by the long march
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