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Minuteman founder Simcox to run against McCain [AZ 2010] [the end of McCain?]
The Arizona Capitol Times ^ | 2009-04-21 | Jim Small

Posted on 04/21/2009 11:51:46 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Mr Rogers

Then I`ll NEVER vote for another rat wanna be again.I don`t give a crap who they are!


151 posted on 04/21/2009 7:07:54 PM PDT by nomad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s how he won the Republican primary.


152 posted on 04/21/2009 7:17:57 PM PDT by samsmom
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To: America_Right

“Source?”

Univision: Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska?

Sarah Palin: I don’t know, I don’t know. That’s a good question.

Univision: As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

Sarah Palin: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that’s not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Univision: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: No, I do not. I do not. Not total [Fred Thompson called it, “not blanket”] amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.”

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2


153 posted on 04/21/2009 7:20:03 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Flying my flag upside down until our constitution is respected/our nation is restored.)
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To: kstewskis

Oh, this is exciting! To think we knew him when... :0)


154 posted on 04/21/2009 7:28:20 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Big_Monkey
“Handing seats to Democrats” may be the only way to purge the RINOs and get them to quit draining Republican coffers only to go to Congress to vote like a Democrat. The RINOs need to start losing elections (preferably in landslides) so the Republican leadership is dissuaded from nominating RINOs to high office. For Conservatives to be effective, the first battle is to win the hearts and minds of the Republican Party. Until the Republican vote is secure to the Conservatives, Conservatives stand little chance in a general election. If knocking out a RINO costs a Republican seat, it is of little consequence in the current environment where the Democrats have a filibuster proof majority.
155 posted on 04/21/2009 8:10:07 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: sefarkas
"... Until the Republican vote is secure to the Conservatives, Conservatives stand little chance in a general election...

I don't know what that means. Nor do I understand how you think it bolsters your argument.

The GOP doesn't "nominate RINOs to high office" as you put it. The democratic primary process is what selects general election candidates for district, state and national offices. If purely orthodox conservatives is what the constituency wants, then that is what the constituency will get.

As for RINOs losing in landslides, usually that's not the case. In fact, RINOs are usually located in very competitive districts and states, and that's the reason they're RINOs in the first place. It feels like you, and many other apparently, think that these moderates are where they are because of some secret cabal that's hand-selecting less-than-perfectly conservative Republicans. The moderates are moderates because they reflect the ideological make-up of their districts. It's not the other way around.

2010 is going to be an interesting year. The political landscape doesn't favor the GOP in the Senate races. The majority of races that are being contested are in states that voted for Obama last year. In addition, the GOP has at least 5, perhaps as many as six Senators that are retiring. That's not good. The majority that the DEMS currently ejoy is not filibuster-proof. But, if they can pick up a couple more, or heaven forbid 4 or 6 more seats in 2010, the agenda that Obama, Pelosi and Reid will be able to purse will be far to the left of where they are today.

156 posted on 04/21/2009 8:37:29 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: rabscuttle385
AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!

Just tell me where to send him some CASH! Let's FLOOD this good man with MEGA-BUCKS! He deserves nothing less than our FULL SUPPORT!

TO HELL WITH JOHN McLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good Riddance!!!!!!

157 posted on 04/21/2009 9:03:28 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: hattend
Steele should close all state primaries to Pubs only

It’s something he can do, but will he?

Does Steele have the power to stop all open primaries?

158 posted on 04/21/2009 9:04:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
Does Steele have the power to stop all open primaries?

No. State committees write the rules for primaries.

159 posted on 04/21/2009 9:13:55 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAItNSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Thanks, thats what I thought. Was hoping that maybe the rules had changed and Steele would would be able to grab the brass ring.


160 posted on 04/21/2009 9:20:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: rabscuttle385; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


161 posted on 04/21/2009 10:09:02 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just Darn... Now I’m going to feel obliged to make a campaign contribution to this guy, and I don’t even live in AZ.


162 posted on 04/21/2009 10:16:56 PM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: wombtotomb
"we gotta support the guys we don’t want,"

WTF?

163 posted on 04/21/2009 10:36:51 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"The other thing that must be done is to write to any other senators and repubs we find out who are backing McCain and tell them we’re going to toss their ass out as well."

Attention Texans- Cornyn is now endorsing RINO Spector of PA- Drop him a note and tell him how bad he's screwed the pooch.

MF

164 posted on 04/21/2009 10:49:12 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: matthew fuller

Done.


165 posted on 04/21/2009 11:00:04 PM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: okie01
State committees write the rules for primaries.

If only it were that simple. Most of the open primary systems are codified. State committees can influence the legislature and they can make procedural decisions but they can't declare a primary open or closed. It gets tricky when you have either branch of the legislature or the Governor of a state Democratic. They are unlikely to do anything to help Republicans unless it benefits them also.

Open primaries are not always bad. For a minority party, they are a way to build membership by poaching voters from other parties. In 1980 Reagan looked like he might be on the ropes in New Hampshire but he made some good solid moves and won. That was an open primary. It then moved to South Carolina which was having its first open primary. The results there pretty much cinched it for Reagan.

I'm not completely convinced that crossover for strategic purposes is as big or influencial as others believe it to be. We are working to revamp the system front to back and closing some primaries is a priority simply as a precaution.

166 posted on 04/21/2009 11:10:16 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Democrats will crossover in the primary to vote for McCain.

Arizona has a closed primary.

167 posted on 04/21/2009 11:13:56 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: bert
John will not run. It should be obvious that his mantle is being passed to Meghan

Read the Constitution.

168 posted on 04/21/2009 11:16:01 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Shady Ray
"Done."

Thanks!

169 posted on 04/21/2009 11:24:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: Cedric
Simcox doesn't stand a chance.

Hopefully, he'll get out and let a more viable candidate take on McCain; someone who actually has a chance of winning.

Getting rid of McCain is too important to leave it in the hands of this rookie.

Unfortunately we aren't apt to get a more viable candidate. Well known experienced politicians in Arizona don't run against McCain, and I don't see that changing, he has raised money for all of them. For some reason which I don't understand they all tread lightly around him.

170 posted on 04/21/2009 11:54:22 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I respect Chris Simcox. He did not roll over like Gilchrist and endorse Huckabee. I was proud to vote for McCain and Palin but if Chris can prove he can do a better job then I think it is time for John McCain to move on, he has served his country well more than not. It pains me to say it because he could have been a great President but it seemed just when he showed a glimmer of that strong conservative he could have been be he retreated. He rode to Washington and then rubber stamped the Bush Bailout. He let his own team eat him and Palin alive with leaks to the press. The real down side I see is if Chris loses which is highly likely it will be played as a setback for the border enforcement issue. The big question is not whether Chris can win against McCain, it is if he can win against his Democrat opponent. Also I think between now and the run off we will see the immigration debate start again. Let us see if the change of heart John McCain presented on the campaign trail towards illegal immigration has been taken to heart or if he plans to make nice with Obama. I think John McCain learned a lesson, he saw what happens to GOP darlings of the media and liberal establishment and if he doesn’t feel a bit betrayed then he is not the man I voted for.


171 posted on 04/22/2009 1:12:58 AM PDT by Maelstorm (It is better to to get outside of the box than to just think outside of it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Outstanding. I will contribute.


172 posted on 04/22/2009 2:24:57 AM PDT by Darwin Fish
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To: rabscuttle385

I sure as hell hope it is the end of captain Queeg.


173 posted on 04/22/2009 4:24:19 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: San Jacinto

Longshot hell. I have several friends in Phoenix and have heard what is going on there. McShame is popular in DC because he is a RINO. He is not popular in AZ. Especially on the border issue. Phoenix is the #1 kidnapping city in the US and McCain talks anmesty. The residents of Arizona are fed up with this garbage and this is a very hot button issue for them. This is Simcox’s race to lose.


174 posted on 04/22/2009 5:31:53 AM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: angkor
That's the actual site. It just shows he's a political neophyte and starting from rock bottom. If he gets some decent guidance and some real support I think he's a contender.
175 posted on 04/22/2009 6:01:09 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wombtotomb
Send him 10$ freepers, we gotta support the guys we don’t want, McCain has alot of money power behind him......

Que?

176 posted on 04/22/2009 7:11:53 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: Texas resident
McCain won his last two Senate elections with 69% and 77% of the vote. During the recall attempt polls showed that about 25% of Republicans favored a recall election, and that included all Republicans who had an ax to grind with McCain. That proves that he is wildly unpopular.

He will crush Simcox like a bug. Don't let that stop you from sending your money to Simcox. Send lots.

177 posted on 04/22/2009 7:12:33 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Yankee

I fixed it a couple posts down.... We gotta support the guys we dont want TO LOSE. Sorry!!


178 posted on 04/22/2009 7:16:18 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: wombtotomb

Just funnin’ with you.

I sensed your meaning immediately.

I often hit “Post” before I proofread and often regret it.


179 posted on 04/22/2009 7:28:27 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: rovenstinez

Wow, sounds like he has met his match. Makes me want to move to AZ and help..

Best news I heard (so far) today.


180 posted on 04/22/2009 8:41:25 AM PDT by katiekins1 (I Bow to No One)
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To: Kimberly GG
Univision: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: No, I do not.

So, she favors following current immigration law. NOT AMNESTY!!!!

You can't smear her. You will have to just call her a pretty airhead like the libs. She embodies everything in which conservatives believe.

181 posted on 04/22/2009 9:11:41 AM PDT by America_Right (The best thing about the Obama Presidency: McCain isn't the President!)
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To: NautiNurse
I followed the Simcox saga a couple of years ago, when a whole lotta Minuteman donations evaporated.

OK, thanks. I'll dig a little deeper. Surely the opposition will trot this out if he gets far.

182 posted on 04/22/2009 10:31:48 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: lady lawyer

You mean like someone that just won the presidency! This guy should run on change you can believe in!


183 posted on 04/22/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: cripplecreek

If he does online contributions, it’s over.

Hey, this Simcox guy doesn’t have a braindead daughter who can’t decide whether she craves potato chips or her father’s affection and feels compelled to work out her affection substitution issues by lashing out against heterosexuals in a blog, right?


184 posted on 04/22/2009 11:18:10 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: red irish

Except he won’t get away with it. The press will excoriate his lack of experience because he is a conservative.


185 posted on 04/22/2009 11:32:36 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: America_Right
You left out the rest of the interview.

Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.”

I don't know what you call it, but I call a "path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants" Amnesty. In fact, I can't think of another word for it. Can you?

186 posted on 04/22/2009 12:07:33 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: matthew fuller

Yes, Texans, call each of John Cornyn’s offices and tell them you will NOT support Cornyn with your $$ or your vote, if he continues to support Snarlin’ Arlen in PA. His senate offices will tell you to call the NRSC office. Don’t; they transfer you immediately to a recorded message. Just get your $$/vote message across quickly to the regional Senate offices.

contact info: www.cornyn.senate.gov

Then, send what ever amount you can to:

www.simcoxforsenate.com
www.JoinRobSimmons.com
www.toomeyforsenate.com

Help conservatives get into/stay in office!


187 posted on 04/22/2009 12:26:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (I see Term Limits in their futures.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

YEP.
How the H else did he win the Repub primary?
I still cannot believe we were stuck with him!


188 posted on 04/22/2009 1:35:33 PM PDT by a real Sheila (God bless us everyone.)
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To: mountainbunny
Well, yeah. To quote your quote...

It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

This means that she believes that everyone that wants to come here should have the same chance as anyone else, so we have to follow the law. Nowhere does she say a "shorter" path to citizenship.

If you don't like Sarah, fine. I don't understand why any true conservative wouldn't, but you are entitled to your opinion. But, please, don't say she is for amnesty when she has stated plainly that she is not.

189 posted on 04/22/2009 7:48:37 PM PDT by America_Right (The best thing about the Obama Presidency: McCain isn't the President!)
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To: Jane Long

Thank you for the URL’s. I think Spector is the easiest to beat, but McCain is just as, or more, important. They are both cancers on the Conservative Cause! I have repeatedly praised Cornyn, but I think that he has lost his way with his support of spector.


190 posted on 04/22/2009 11:21:20 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: chuckles
"but to replace him with a shyster wouldn't help the cause."

Shyster? I was under the impression that "shyster" referred to lawyers, not kindergarden teachers.....

191 posted on 04/22/2009 11:44:04 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

So what do you think the over/under is on the percentage that Simcos gets. I think it is 4%.


192 posted on 04/23/2009 7:22:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: America_Right
It isn't "my quote". It's Sarah Palin's quote. You truncated the question, which I will restore below.

Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.

That is amnesty. It gives people who break the law a leg up. It does not mean, as you say, that "everyone that wants to come here should have the same chance as anyone else, so we have to follow the law".

Here's why: The questioner specifically asked about "undocumented immigrants". The other term for "undocumented immigrants" is illegal aliens. So when she says she supports a "path to citizenship" for undocumented workers, she is supporting amnesty for illegals.

Amnesty means that we ignore the fact that they are illegal and allow them to become citizens. It is not in any way "have (ing) the same chance as anyone else" to use your words. No amnesty means we send them home, and refuse re-entry based on the undisputed fact that they've broken the law.

People all over the world wait their turn in line to legally immigrate to the United States. Illegals do not. I don't know how much clearer it can be made. Supporting "a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants", is not leveling the playing field. It is giving people who break the law a boost to the front of the line. Treating people who break the law the same as people who follow the law to the letter is not a level playing field.

If you don't like Sarah, fine. I don't understand why any true conservative wouldn't, but you are entitled to your opinion. But, please, don't say she is for amnesty when she has stated plainly that she is not.

She said she wasn't, then turned around and explained that she was in favor of just that. Her own words, and the words of her running mate John McCain who said the same thing (and more), affirm this.

I believe I'll take their words at face value.

193 posted on 04/23/2009 9:57:23 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: mountainbunny
I see your point. I still think, however, that she was tyring to say that the law should be followed in politician doublespeak. All of them talk out of both sides of their mouths, trying to please everyone by keeping them confused as to their true intentions.

No need to bring McPain into this. I cannot STAND him - check the tagline. I KNOW he wants amnesty.

194 posted on 04/23/2009 11:36:37 AM PDT by America_Right (The best thing about the Obama Presidency: McCain isn't the President!)
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