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Senate Proposal Could Put Heavy Restrictions on Internet Freedoms
FoxNews ^ | Tuesday, April 21, 2009 | James Osborne

Posted on 04/21/2009 1:16:43 PM PDT by Joiseydude

A proposed bill that would give the president widespread power to shut down the Internet in the event of a cyberattack could have sweeping implications on civil liberties. The days of an open, largely unregulated Internet may soon come to an end.

A bill making its way through Congress proposes to give the U.S. government authority over all networks considered part of the nation's critical infrastructure. Under the proposed Cybersecurity Act of 2009, the president would have the authority to shut down Internet traffic to protect national security.

The government also would have access to digital data from a vast array of industries including banking, telecommunications and energy. A second bill, meanwhile, would create a national cybersecurity adviser -- commonly referred to as the cybersecurity czar -- within the White House to coordinate strategy with a wide range of federal agencies involved.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; cybersecurityact; democrats; gestapo; kbg; lping; obama; policestate; socialists; tm
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1 posted on 04/21/2009 1:16:44 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

How do you like “progressive” governance now, America?


2 posted on 04/21/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Joiseydude

And the band plays on.


3 posted on 04/21/2009 1:18:20 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Joiseydude

Just like China — the fuhrer certainly can see the one place he can’t control.

Until now.


4 posted on 04/21/2009 1:18:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Joiseydude

Well isn’t that special? I wonder what would constitute an emergency: say, thousands of people going to the streets and protesting an expansive government?!


5 posted on 04/21/2009 1:18:52 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: skeeter

And remember, when W wanted to monitor the phone calls of known terrorists, he was a “fascist tyrant.”


6 posted on 04/21/2009 1:19:01 PM PDT by 50sDad (The mainstream media is the only watch dog that decides what it is going to bark at.)
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To: Joiseydude

I’m sure the ACLU is all over this, right??


7 posted on 04/21/2009 1:19:04 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: skeeter

I have it on the best of authority on another FR thread that McCain would have been just as bad.


8 posted on 04/21/2009 1:19:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Joiseydude

Yes, but does it touch your library card ... I am sure those useless progressives will get right on it.

Big Government sucks, Republican or Democrat both flavors suck.


9 posted on 04/21/2009 1:20:29 PM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: Joiseydude

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W. Va, who introduced the bill earlier this month.....A spokeswoman from Rockefeller’s office said neither he nor the two senators who co-sponsored the bill, Olympia Snow, R-Maine, and Bill Nelson, D-Fla., will answer questions on cybersecurity at a later date.


10 posted on 04/21/2009 1:20:29 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Joiseydude; Bulldog21

ping for later.


11 posted on 04/21/2009 1:20:50 PM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Joiseydude

I e-mail my non-senators Levin and Stabyounow and I am ignored. They only represent Detroit. What else can I do?


12 posted on 04/21/2009 1:22:05 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: Joiseydude

Directive 10-289 and the Unification Board cannot be far away.


13 posted on 04/21/2009 1:22:30 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Joiseydude

he could easily shut down those hateful rightwing sites, he even has a DHS report on which to base it


14 posted on 04/21/2009 1:22:38 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Joiseydude
Those who voted for Obama wanted change-—they will certainly get it.
15 posted on 04/21/2009 1:23:04 PM PDT by GOPologist (Illigitimi non carborundum.)
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To: Joiseydude
Under the guise of protecting securities the proposed Cybersecurity Act of 2009, the president would have the authority to shut down Internet traffic to protect national security control everyone.
16 posted on 04/21/2009 1:23:42 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Redneck Radicalized Right-Wing Extremist Recruiter - see Constitution for details!)
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To: Joiseydude

why am I not surprised

I said they would do this, go after talk radio, then guns and then questioning the Govt.

We are at war with the left, even the homeland defence has said we are terrorists.
the surveillance is not about listening to Islamic nutters but instead they are listening to us now.

Please tell me there is at least one patriot in the Govt who can come out and make their agenda publicly.

This is , has got out of hand now


17 posted on 04/21/2009 1:23:59 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Joiseydude
hhhmmmm...grassroots movement being helped by Internet....threat to U.S. security....shut down Internet.

Pony Express may still work....oh wait..no animals on the interstate. Carrier pigeons might work...oh wait...pooping pigeons could contribute to Global warming...shoot pigeons...can't do that...no guns allowed (or ammo, either will work.)

Goal??? Put Americans in a cage, just big enough for enough movement that work can still be done and money can be extracted for one Beast of a gov. with an insatiable appetite!!!

18 posted on 04/21/2009 1:24:52 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: truthingod

move to down here

we are taking conservatives down here from VA, TO FL, to the midwest to AK


19 posted on 04/21/2009 1:25:28 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Joiseydude

Anyone remember how to set up a BBS? Packet switched radio network? How much data can be sent over a modified FRS/GPRS radio? Without even gisting the article seems these questions may become pertinent on the title alone.


20 posted on 04/21/2009 1:27:37 PM PDT by petro45acp (A government may create work, but only a free market creates jobs, careers, and growth!)
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To: 50sDad

Because to s self-hating anti American “progressive”, every foreign terrorist is a misunderstood friend, while his conservative neighbor is worse than Satan himself.


21 posted on 04/21/2009 1:28:04 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: manc
54% of people voted for this. I don't think it can be saved. Better to let it all collapse... while watching from a safe distance.

Enough is enough.

We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures.


22 posted on 04/21/2009 1:28:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Joiseydude
A bill making its way through Congress proposes to give the U.S. government authority over all networks considered part of the nation's critical infrastructure. Under the proposed Cybersecurity Act of 2009, the president would have the authority to shut down Internet traffic to protect national security.

How is my access to YouTube, Amazon, and FR a "threat to national security?"

A "threat to national security" would be if they hacked into a Pentagon database, or a Congressionial network, or the hard drives at Los Alamos labs, but I doubt that those are available from the internet.

And when did the internet become part of "the nation's critical infrastructure?"

All it will take is one internal CIA-led "attack" to give Obama the reason to shut down the internet. I'd be surprised if something as little as a FReep of a CNN online poll would be enough to call it an attack, if there was some viral news or video making the rounds that Obama wanted stopped.

-PJ

23 posted on 04/21/2009 1:28:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: briarbey b

Seriously, a pigeon could carry quite a lot of data on a memory stick.

But... time to get into long-range Bluetooth and packet transmission by radio.


24 posted on 04/21/2009 1:31:22 PM PDT by coydog (Proud to have slept through the Obama coronation!)
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To: skeeter

I notice that when something is bad, the press inserts the generic “government” or “president” words in place of Obama.


25 posted on 04/21/2009 1:31:35 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: skeeter

Folks this is just the beginning. They want to take our freedoms away as we know them. All this in the first 3 months. It is going to be a long 45 months.


26 posted on 04/21/2009 1:31:45 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Joiseydude

And Olympia Snowe is one of the co-sponsors of the bill! THROW HER OUT OF THE PARTY NOW!!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/21/2009 1:33:09 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: freedumb2003
Of course. According to the McCain Deranged there was no difference whatsoever between the two candidates or their parties. Voting for a third party or sitting out the election was a patriotic act doncha’ know?
28 posted on 04/21/2009 1:34:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie (The failures of Central Planning cannot be corrected with more Central Planning.)
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To: Joiseydude

The ‘black market’ net will be along shortly...


29 posted on 04/21/2009 1:35:01 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a feather bed. -Jefferson)
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To: Joiseydude

The DUmmies are under the illusion that the Left represents freedom and freedom from government.

Wonder how they are viewing this?


30 posted on 04/21/2009 1:35:16 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian?)
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To: ShadowAce; bamahead

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31 posted on 04/21/2009 1:35:54 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: skeeter

The Critters (Rockefeller, Olympia Snowe, Bill Nelson (who I do not know) :

The bill would allow the government to create a detailed set of standards for cybersecurity, as well as take over the process of certifying IT technicians. But many in the technology sector say the government is simply ill-equipped to get involved at the technical level, said Franck Journoud, a policy analyst with the Business Software Alliance.

“Simply put, who has the expertise?” he said. “It’s the industry, not the government. We have a responsibility to increase and improve security. That responsibility cannot be captured in a government standard.”

A spokeswoman from Rockefeller’s office said neither he nor the two senators who co-sponsored the bill, Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, and Bill Nelson, D-Fla., will answer questions on cybersecurity at a later date.


32 posted on 04/21/2009 1:36:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Joiseydude

Zeig heil! Mein Furher est Obama


33 posted on 04/21/2009 1:37:16 PM PDT by the long march
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

34 posted on 04/21/2009 1:38:03 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Joiseydude
There is only one way to stop this communist King Obama. Impeach him.
35 posted on 04/21/2009 1:38:29 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Leftists always make excuses for the totalitarian moves of their leftist leadership. They believe in the “solution” that the leadership is working towards is achievable and without negative tradeoffs. They are willing to put up with a lot of bad stuff in order to achieve that utopian solution.


36 posted on 04/21/2009 1:39:50 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Logical me

That’s not the only way.

Tenth amendment sovereignty would stop him.
Secession would stop him.


37 posted on 04/21/2009 1:40:38 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Uncle Hal
They want to take our freedoms away as we know them. All this in the first 3 months. It is going to be a long 45 months.

There will nothing left in 45 months. The move to King Obama and his thugs will have been complete before that.

38 posted on 04/21/2009 1:42:50 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Joiseydude

There’s a real threat in the foreseeable future of massively destructive cyberwar. We do need some mechanism for the Commander-in-Chief to take emergency action, but we also need a strong mechanism to protect against abuse of that power. I’d propose requiring a majority vote of Supreme Court justices, with any or all of the evidence presented to them remaining confidential if a majority of them agree it needs to be for national security reasons, but with their individual votes being made public.

There’s no perfect solution, but at least the SC justices aren’t campaigning for office or in position to vote to bestow vast sums of taxpayer money on their cronies and campaign donors. And they are a small group, old enough to have perspective, and few enough to have a sense of collegiality. In a major emergency such as a serious cyberattack, I’d really prefer to have a Commander-in-Chief consulting with the 9 SC justices to get permission to shut down the Internet, than with the unruly mob of Congresspeople and Senators.


39 posted on 04/21/2009 1:43:10 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Lucky9teen
This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector. - Plato
40 posted on 04/21/2009 1:43:55 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Joiseydude

41 posted on 04/21/2009 1:44:24 PM PDT by Nick Danger (I am Obama of Borg. Allegiance is futile. You will be capitulated.)
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To: Logical me

There seem to be almost as many drama queens on this site as there are on the libbie sites. Makes we wonder about some of the newer Freepers.

Calm down. We have a long road ahead of us.


42 posted on 04/21/2009 1:53:23 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Joiseydude

an emergency would be ten points down in the polls with a week and a half to go till the second Tuesday in November...


43 posted on 04/21/2009 1:59:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KoRn; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
44 posted on 04/21/2009 1:59:13 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Jacquerie
Ain't it the truth. How many of the self-righteous Right stayed home because they couldn't vote for McCain?

I was there until I awoke to just how bad Obama was, then I gagged down my gorge and voted for "The Maverick"...I wasn't thrilled, but I did it and I don't regret it.
45 posted on 04/21/2009 2:06:08 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Congress has too many politicians and Leftistlators and not enough Constitutionalists.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Useful idiots” are always the last to see it coming. Thomas Shuman (Yuri Bezminov) spoke to that point very clearly.


46 posted on 04/21/2009 2:08:29 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Congress has too many politicians and Leftistlators and not enough Constitutionalists.)
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To: Joiseydude
Will he get to shut down our phones too?
47 posted on 04/21/2009 2:09:39 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Logical me

Huh...yeah that’ll happen with this Congress...in your dreams (and mine).


48 posted on 04/21/2009 2:09:51 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Congress has too many politicians and Leftistlators and not enough Constitutionalists.)
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To: truthingod

I think that is the same question the signers of the Declaration of Independence once ask themselves.


49 posted on 04/21/2009 2:10:18 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Joiseydude
Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W. Va, who introduced the bill earlier this month with bipartisan support...

His co-sponsors are Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, and Bill Nelson, D-Fla. What the hell is "bipartisan" about that??

"I know the threats we face." Rockefeller said in a prepared statement when the legislation was introduced.

BS Jay. Even the absolute best in the industry admit they don't know all the threats.

Take your power grab and shove it!

50 posted on 04/21/2009 2:23:47 PM PDT by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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