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RUSSIA MOVES TROOPS CLOSER TO GEORGIA'S CAPITAL
Kyiv Post ^ | April 21, 2009 | AP Staff

Posted on 04/21/2009 1:24:09 PM PDT by mick

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To: mick
So I would agree with you that a nuclear armed Poland, along with Israeli would be an effective way to tame the Bear.And pretty much insure Germany stays inside the tent.

Eventually however the call of the Mahdi will provoke the Iranians to attempt a first strike on Israel. If Israel allows that to happen, the Bear could still end up owning the Middle East. Iran will then be neutralized by the back stabbing bear and the Russian Mob could end up owning a large chunk of the Middle East. Assuming of course that US forces will have been neutralized by then (diplomatically or due to the radiation from Iranian attacks).

181 posted on 04/23/2009 3:34:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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looks like another incident along the Georgia - South Otessia border last night:

S. Ossetian village fired at from Georgia

24.04.2009, 11.21

TSKHINVAL, April 24 (Itar-Tass) —A South Ossetian village came under machine-gun fire from the territory of Georgia on Thursday night, Ibrahim Gasseev, South Ossetian Deputy Defence Minister, told Itar-Tass on Friday.

According to his information, “a Cobra armoured vehicle moved from the Georgian village of Dirbi towards the South Ossetian border at about 01.00 on Thursday night. The village of Velit, Znauri District of South Ossetia, was fired at from a large-calibre machine-gun off the armoured vehicle.”

Gasseev said that “international military observers stated on many occasions that Georgia did not have large-calibre weapons in the zone of their responsibility, and that it needs Cobra armoured vehicles only for police patrolling.”

“Such provocations have taken place many times of late. We shall take adequate measures in the future,” he said.

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2....1802&PageNum=0


182 posted on 04/24/2009 5:33:08 AM PDT by jhpigott
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I couldn't access the link. But thanks for the heads up. I'm sure I can locate it somewhere else.

Border provocations....the oldest trick in the book.

183 posted on 04/24/2009 5:46:41 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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i think this one should work -

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13871802&PageNum=0


184 posted on 04/24/2009 6:04:58 AM PDT by jhpigott
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got it, thanks


185 posted on 04/24/2009 7:00:17 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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Thank you mick! I hope all is well with you!

Things have been rather hectic here, but not so much because of Russia, but internal politics are going completely crazy and irrational! I cannot exclude that some of these folks are financed by Russia.

Insofar this particular news is concerned, this has been going on here ever since they “pulled out”. Russia has officially announced it will station 14K people in both Abkhazia and South Ossetia and has been doing this ever since. The “fire exchange” along the border with South Ossetia is also a weekly must, so nothing new there as well, unfortunately.

General sense in the country is that Russians probably won't risk another international fiasco and invade Georgia openly - they have every means to do it under cover and all they are doing with this military buildup are showing their defiance to their own promises...

Also mindful that next month (entire May) there are two military exercises in Georgia to be planned by NATO; Russians are furious about those, but NATO surprisingly, at least so far, shows that they do not care.

I think there is general sense here as well that Western countries, and particularly Germany and France simply sold Georgia and exchanged it for gas supplies - of course, all of that came tumbling down this January when there was couple of freezing days in Europe, but those folks stubbornly do not want to learn. BTW, I have spoken with one person from Ukraine who actually knows that was going on; I was told that there are about 6 entry points for Russian gas into Ukraine and there are about 8 exit points, although the system is build in such a way that not all of them are interconnected; basically what was happening was that Russia was deliberately operating only those entry points that made it almost impossible for Ukraine to deliver gas into those exit points that Russians were requesting without disconnecting gas supply for the entire country, which was not obviously something Ukraine wanted to do.

Basically, Russian government is a scum and I sincerely hope that your administration does not believe the word they are saying... I simply do not see why Russians would want to help US in dealing with Iran when it is Russia that supplies them with all technology, etc...

186 posted on 04/28/2009 8:40:41 AM PDT by Lasha
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I am happy to hear from you, my Friend. I have been trying to follow the news from your country and agree with you that the upcoming NATO exercises are a surprise because it shows a courage that has been lacking in Europe for some time, except for Poland and Ukraine and the Czech Republic.

I hope your assessment of the Russian intentions are accurate. With oil prices staying low let's hope the Bear will be more cautious. My freinds in Ukraine are telling me that Russia has been a little bit better in their relations with them. I don't know why except to think their economy is so weak and the Big Shots in Russia are telling Putin to stop causing trouble until things get better.

I am mainly interested in what is going to happen to your President. Do you think he will survive?

As far as our President is concerned, I think you should be worried because the man is an amateur and thinks his personal charm will make nations act differently from their own self interest. A sad and dangerous delusion.

For now he is enjoying high positive poll numbers. but when his policies to fix the economy fail and the economy gets worse, as I think it will, I believe he will start to get desperate. And that will be a dangerous time for us and the world. A weak leader for America is an invitation for the enemies of freedom to start trouble.

Good luck to you and your young family. I pray for your country and all people who live on the edge of danger.

187 posted on 04/28/2009 7:18:13 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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188 posted on 04/28/2009 11:01:57 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Lasha
This confirms what I have been told from friends in Ukraine. I think it show that Putin is feeling pressure from the Big Businessmen to stop causing trouble until the economy improves. Let us hope so!

In today's Kiev Post:

The positive trends in the development of the Russian-Ukrainian trade and economic relations should be supported, said Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

“The goal is to support all these positive trends, and in that respect our commission can and must play a positive role,” Putin said before starting talks with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

Hopefully, not only “energy issues” will be discussed today, he said.

“For all the problems in global economy, our trade still rose significantly in the last quarter of 2008 and at the beginning of this one 2009, reaching the bar of $40 billion,” Putin said.

Cooperation strengthened between “quite sensitive and crucial sectors” of our economies and certain Russian and Ukrainian companies, he said.

“If we do not join our efforts, we will be faced with difficulties on foreign markets,” Putin said. Aviation, space and mechanical engineering are among the areas of such cooperation, Putin said.

“If we do not keep it (cooperation), the situation will only get more difficult for our economic players amid increasing competition,” Putin said.

189 posted on 04/29/2009 5:38:59 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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Thank you, my Friend!

I am certainly hoping for the best, although it seems to be so far away at this stage:

re our president; he certainly acts rather wisely (probably not always, but hell, most of the times), particularly dealing with the street protests so far... my personal take on this is he'd probably cave in at some point, but I certainly want him to serve his full terms - not because I like him that much, but because I want for once to have proper presidential term in this country completed without resignations, revolutions, etc.

on Obama, I am inclined to agree with you, except for he does have some advisers there who should be able to help him out... for me, as a person having no vote in the US, my options on criticizing or approving US government are rather limited (this is my personal approach to things).

still hoping for the best...

190 posted on 04/30/2009 2:51:48 AM PDT by Lasha
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