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Another Miss USA judge says Miss California gave wrong answer
Los Angeles Times (Entertainment : Dispatches from Las Vegas) ^ | 4/22/2009 | Richard Abowitz

Posted on 04/22/2009 5:31:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

If you had any doubt that Miss California, Carrie Prejean, lost the crown, if indeed she ever had a chance to win it, with her answer to Perez Hilton's question about states legalizing gay marriage, then read fellow judge Alicia Jacobs' account of her voting. After hearing the answer, Jacobs, a former Miss Nevada USA, writes on her blog, "if I could have made her 51st runner-up, I would have." In a blog item titled "Pretty is as pretty does," Jacobs offers a behind-the-scenes account of the judges and pageant officials involved. Included is Jacobs' account of her reaction as she heard the answer:

"As she continued to speak, I saw the crown move further & further away from her. When she finished, she looked strangely proud for a moment. Personally, I was STUNNED on several levels. First, how could this young woman NOT know her audience and judges? Let's not forget that the person asking the question is an openly gay man, at least 2 people on the judges panel are openly gay. Another judge has a sister in a gay marriage. Her very own state pageant director, KEITH LEWIS is an openly gay man who has been a very generous benefactor of hers...in many ways. (2 ways in particular....if you get my drift??) Did I mention I was STUNNED?"

I don't actually get Jacobs' drift about the "2 ways," but I am sure someone hipper will explain that to me. As for Carrie Prejean, she will be as remembered as well as former Miss Oklahoma Anita Bryant.

Oh, wait, Anita Bryant is still alive. Well, I admit I had to look that up, and my guess is that most of you would too!

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carrieprejean; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; misscalifornia; missusa; mussusa; perezhilton; prejean; putz
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1 posted on 04/22/2009 5:31:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

More on this contest flap :

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/21/beckel_miss_usa/

BOB BECKEL: Miss USA Flap — How About Keeping God OUT of Politics?

The furor over the anti-gay marriage comments made by Miss California, who was competing in the Miss USA contest were both unnecessary and inflammatory. It reminded me of a former gay-bashing beauty contestant, Anita Bryant. The less than brilliant Bryant traveled the country in the ’70’s spewing hatred towards gays by her hateful speech and support of anti-gay referendums.

I don’t know where this woman is now or if she is still alive but her sentiments certainly are among those felt by a minority of Americans who apparently don’t believe the Constitution of the United States provides for civil liberties for all our people. Some opponents of gay marriage love to quote the Bible as an anti-gay source.

I am a Christian, read the Bible daily, and attend church at least once a week (hard for some of you wingers to believe, isn’t it, that there are born-again Christians who happen to be liberals). I do not believe our Savior would have spoken out in favor of anti-gay referendums. “Give onto Caesar what is Caesar’s.”

How about being Good Samaritans and keeping God out of politics?

Having said that, I am appalled that the question was raised at all. Given the fact that the questioner, celebrity blogger Perez Hilton, is gay makes it appear that he is injecting his own politics into what is after all just a beauty contest. It’s time to cool the rhetoric on both sides on the gay marriage issue and leave it to state legislatures and the courts which is where the debate belongs.


2 posted on 04/22/2009 5:34:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Personally, I was STUNNED on several levels. First, how could this young woman NOT know her audience and judges? Let's not forget that the person asking the question is an openly gay man, at least 2 people on the judges panel are openly gay. Another judge has a sister in a gay marriage. Her very own state pageant director, KEITH LEWIS is an openly gay man who has been a very generous benefactor of hers...in many ways. (2 ways in particular....if you get my drift??) Did I mention I was STUNNED?"

This judge is literally saying that she EXPECTS contestants to give politically correct answers, even if they are lies.

How disgusting. Miss California was better off losing this disgusting travesty.

3 posted on 04/22/2009 5:35:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: SeekAndFind
..she answered what was in her heart and mind, honestly...and this shocked people. The fact the people stand by convictions puts the PC people into apoplectic spasms
4 posted on 04/22/2009 5:35:20 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SeekAndFind
Did that old moonbat say "I was STUNNED" or "I was STUNED"?

They are so close in spelling they are difficult to tell apart without some further explanation.

5 posted on 04/22/2009 5:35:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t they use this as a STIMULUS, and make 3 crowsn..Mr. Homosexual, Miss Lesbian, and the heteorsexual gal who is Miss Straight America? Why not?


6 posted on 04/22/2009 5:35:55 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't actually get Jacobs' drift about the "2 ways," but I am sure someone hipper will explain that to me.

The word "implants" comes to mind...

7 posted on 04/22/2009 5:36:10 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: SeekAndFind

Poor, stupid bimbo. She doesn’t recognize moral courage and integrity when she sees it.


8 posted on 04/22/2009 5:36:11 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, Miss California gave the right answer. They just didn’t like the answer she gave.


9 posted on 04/22/2009 5:36:51 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind
You can't be a "born again Christian" and be pro-gay-marriage.

End of story.

That's probably why no one believes you.

10 posted on 04/22/2009 5:37:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind
hard for some of you wingers to believe, isn’t it, that there are born-again Christians who happen to be liberals

Actually, Bob, it's IMPOSSIBLE to justify liberal ideology against the authority of the bible.
So, usually, you just hear liberal "Christians" dismiss the authority of God's Word.

11 posted on 04/22/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ms. Prejean had every right to be proud, because she stood up for her beliefs and didn’t kow-tow to some raging homosexual.


12 posted on 04/22/2009 5:37:38 AM PDT by Raster Man
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To: SeekAndFind
I do not believe our Savior would have spoken out in favor of anti-gay referendums. “Give onto Caesar what is Caesar’s.”

Either I am still half asleep or this is the most ignorant thing I have heard in a quite a while.
13 posted on 04/22/2009 5:37:56 AM PDT by day10 (Integrity has no need of rules.)
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To: muawiyah; SeekAndFind

Excuse me ~ no one believes whoever that quote is from.


14 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Why was the question asked in the first place ?

Once it was asked Carrie had two choices, to be politically correct or to answer it honestly probably knowing that it could cost her the crown.

Politics should not be brought up in something like this. It’s not about politics.

Perez WILLFULLY asked this question with the idea of trying to discredit her. Shame on him (or does Perez prefer to be called her ?).

The question everyone should ask is how did Perez Hilton get the pageant gig in the first place? What contribution to our society has he made and what makes him/her (whatever) qualified to be a judge ?


15 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Raster Man

I’m not sure about “proud”, but she should be at peace with knowing that she pleased God and not The World.


16 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:42 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Travis McGee
I saw nothing at all wrong with her response. I was just not what that puffster wanted to hear.

I would have said, “across the country this issue has come up in numerous states and when the public votes they vote against it, live with it!

17 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:45 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marsoc Dad)
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To: SeekAndFind
It was an opinion questions.
There is no “wrong” answer.

Unless, of course, you are living in a totalitarian or other type of fascist state.

It was only a “wrong” answer to the homonazis.

18 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:48 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"if I could have made her 51st runner-up, I would have."

Well, Carrie Prejean won second place. Not bad for facing a panel of hostile pack of wolves.
19 posted on 04/22/2009 5:39:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Someone ought to remind ol' Bobby-boy to read the words of John Adams.


20 posted on 04/22/2009 5:39:47 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: SeekAndFind
...gave wrong answer...First, how could this young woman NOT know her audience and judges?

Funny, I always thought those interviews and Q&A were about the contestant... So in that light, she couldn't possibly give the wrong answer. Unless you want to tell her what to think and feel. As for knowing the judges, so what? Again, she is supposed to answer based on her outlook, and she did. I'm very proud she had the backbone to state what she believes. (I happen to agree with her too)

If they were even pretending to be impartial judges, they would've appreciated her candid, honest reply even if they disagreed with it. The judges failed here, miserably, not the contestant, she's beautiful, strong-willed, and would make a wonderful Miss USA.

21 posted on 04/22/2009 5:39:49 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: SeekAndFind

...even if the queers don’t like her she will still get bookings from family values groups...probably more now that she’s famous for speaking her mind....I wish her well.


22 posted on 04/22/2009 5:39:49 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: SeekAndFind

Carrie Prejean’s crown awaits her in heaven.................


23 posted on 04/22/2009 5:40:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: STONEWALLS

She will be remembered long after whoever won (I don’t even know HER name)...

even here on earth.


24 posted on 04/22/2009 5:41:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: SeekAndFind
I know exactly who Anita Bryant is. She was on Florida Orange Juice commercials for quite a while. As for the answer being wrong, what was the question? Is a person no longer allowed to have an opposing opinion on this subject, or was this the Miss USA Pageant - 1984?
25 posted on 04/22/2009 5:41:40 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: SeekAndFind

It sounds like the beauty pageant business has been taken over by gay people.

Given that gay people make up about 2% of the population, it seems like straight people have been discriminated against here, with so many gays involved in the judging.

Of course, there was a time when people were asked about their personal beliefs, and giving the truthful answer meant being torn apart by lions. It took real courage to stand by your convictions.

We should not be surprised that we can still be punished for our beliefs. We have grown soft because for so long our nation was a “Christian nation”, or at least it was not antithetical and opposed to Christian beliefs. However, that time is long gone now.

We have gotten well into a new era, where expressing your truthful beliefs about abortion, gay marriage, extramarital sex, creation, and wanting to obey and act according to the commands of a higher being will get you ostracized, rejected, fired, and maybe even jailed or beaten.

In the name of Tolerance, we have become intolerant of those who hold firm convictions.


26 posted on 04/22/2009 5:42:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: muawiyah

Thank you! Saved me from having to figure out a civil way to say it. End of story indeed!


27 posted on 04/22/2009 5:43:13 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: OCCASparky

referring to this?

This constitution is good for the governing of a moral and religious people, it is inadequate for the governance of any other.


28 posted on 04/22/2009 5:43:17 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Travis McGee

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/04/quote-of-week.html


29 posted on 04/22/2009 5:43:33 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s right, she did give the wrong answer. What she should have said is this:

“Barack Obama was asked whether he supported gay marriage when he was running for President. Barack Obama said no, and I agree with Barack Obama.”


30 posted on 04/22/2009 5:43:37 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: MrB
I’m not sure about “proud”, but she should be at peace with knowing that she pleased God and not The World.

What would be wrong about her being proud of her answer?

31 posted on 04/22/2009 5:43:56 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to Obama world. In Obama world leftists get to pick winners and losers.

If you do not answer the right way you are slandered and treated like dirt. You will continue to lose until you renounce your beliefs and tow the line.

The lefties are emboldened now and will continue pushing for America’s end to liberties.


32 posted on 04/22/2009 5:44:05 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe


Carrie Prejean, a brave babe.






33 posted on 04/22/2009 5:44:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I do not believe our Savior would have spoken out in favor of anti-gay referendums.

Apparently his Bible lost a few pages. Although I suppose technically, Jesus wouldn't have spoken for a vote on an issue, he simply told his followers that marriage was sacred and that even divorce was only offered because we were weak, sinful people.

34 posted on 04/22/2009 5:44:51 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind
I am a Christian, read the Bible daily, and attend church at least once a week (hard for some of you wingers to believe, isn’t it, that there are born-again Christians who happen to be liberals)

As I recall, Bob, this charade started shortly after you were busted with a prostitute almost five years ago. Forgive me if I don't consider for a millisecond that your conversion was at all genuine or sincere.

The Bible and the manifesto are wholly incompatible. The only purpose The Bible serves to a practicing Marxist is to provide cover.

35 posted on 04/22/2009 5:45:16 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's not forget that the person asking the question is an openly gay man, at least 2 people on the judges panel are openly gay. Another judge has a sister in a gay marriage.

So this judge is saying she should have answered based upon who was judging?

I smell Donald Trump involved in this for ratings.

36 posted on 04/22/2009 5:46:02 AM PDT by McGruff (I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "bow" is.)
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To: day10
Naw, you're not asleep. It is ignorant on a couple levels.
Perhaps ol' Bob should look up Sodom and Gomorrah. And what do taxes have to do with homosexual anything?
37 posted on 04/22/2009 5:46:20 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: SeekAndFind

More photos of Carrie




38 posted on 04/22/2009 5:46:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Alicia Jacobs outing herself. Is she one of the homosexual judges? If she isnt a homosexual she is certainly a dyed in the wool liberal, and a woman who proposes other women lie to win contests.She is insulted that the woman seemed proud to give a conservative answer.

What she is doing here is encouraging a courageous heterosexual woman to lie to win a contest.

What a farce this has become. Close the whole thing down

Homosexuals running a beauty contest , what a joke.


39 posted on 04/22/2009 5:48:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

Help Wanted: Miss America, Christians need not apply.

Pray for America


40 posted on 04/22/2009 5:48:43 AM PDT by bray (Join the Rebel Republican Movement!)
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To: Recon Dad

Unfortunately, the left has fixed that by spending the last decade indoctrinating school children under force of law, not simply to understand and tolerate other people, but to actively support sin and to be intolerant of those who suggest there is any such thing as sin.

The only people not indoctrinated are home schoolers and those in some private schools, but the left is making it very hard to homeschool, and hard for common people to afford private school.


41 posted on 04/22/2009 5:48:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Texan Tory
That might have caused a short circuit in the judges’ brains.
42 posted on 04/22/2009 5:49:01 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: raybbr

We’re not to be proud of, or boast in, any of our own works.

Gal 6:14

But, yes, she certainly has done something that the Father can be proud of.


43 posted on 04/22/2009 5:49:43 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: McGruff

What we should be asking is when did Donald Trump decide to walk on the wild side.


44 posted on 04/22/2009 5:49:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: day10
Either I am still half asleep or this is the most ignorant thing I have heard in a quite a while

It's Bob Beckel and no, you are not half asleep.

45 posted on 04/22/2009 5:50:12 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There is actually a term for this: “jamming.” “Jammers” shame and castigate any who dare voice dissenting opinions. This behavior most commonly occurs when one group of individuals want to force others to fall in line with a philosophy which counters traditional notions of common sense and decency. Homosexuals rely on jamming to bully anyone who dares to disagree with their outrageous agenda. We fight back by naming the technique an exposing it's proponents.
46 posted on 04/22/2009 5:50:54 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Has the whole frigging world gone crazy? Hey folks, you're not supposed to answer a question with truth anymore, you're supposed to say what the asker wants to hear.

I'm not surprised that Miss Nevada, the state that has legalized whoring, was stunned.

47 posted on 04/22/2009 5:50:54 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: MrB
We’re not to be proud of, or boast in, any of our own works. Gal 6:14 But, yes, she certainly has done something that the Father can be proud of.

Hmmmm.... I think there is a difference between Pride the sin and being proud of yourself.

48 posted on 04/22/2009 5:51:23 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: MrB

I wonder if Beckel became born again before or after he wrote that extortion check to that pro and her pimp?


49 posted on 04/22/2009 5:51:43 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: traderrob6

Maybe Christians shouldn’t be participating in beauty contests, and shouldn’t be spending money supporting them, if tournament directors actually believe that beauty contest contestants shouldn’t be religious.

On the other hand, I have to believe that those words, if provable, would be grounds for an anti-discrimination lawsuit.


50 posted on 04/22/2009 5:52:09 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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