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Guns and the barometer of discontent
Charlotte Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 20 April, 2009 | Paul Valone

Posted on 04/22/2009 6:12:55 AM PDT by marktwain

You see it when tens of thousands of citizens turn out to protest in “Tea Parties” across the U.S.; you see it in military personnel compelled to form “Oath Keepers,” outlining orders they will not obey; you see it in a number of states debating sovereignty resolutions, in some cases even calling for secession; you see it in the number of people joining gun rights organizations; and yes, you see it in the number of people buying guns.

Simultaneously, just as during the Clinton administration, malcontents have increasingly inflicted mass homicides on the American people. Is it part of the same unrest? If so, what causes it? The economy? Hatred for the Obama administration? “Right wing” talk hosts? Or something more fundamental and pervasive?

GUN SALES BOOMING

Despite a foundering economy, untold media sources have documented the boom in sales of guns and ammunition since November. According to Time Magazine:

“Data from the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which the industry uses as a proxy for overall firearms sales, are also revealing. From November 2008 through March 2009, FBI background checks, which are required every time a federally licensed gun dealer makes a sale, rose 29.3% over the same period a year earlier. In November alone, checks jumped 42%, to 1,529,635, the largest monthly total in the decade that the system has been in place.”

Similarly, states are reporting increased applications for concealed handgun permits. Florida recently reported being buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications, for which it hired 61 temporary workers.

Ammunition is so scarce that Internet rumors conjure conspiracy theories of Obama administration restrictions on ammunition imports, and a recent Department of Defense decision to crush once-fired cartridge casings rather than re-selling them to commercial ammunition reloaders caused such a huge outcry that the decision was quickly rescinded.

At gun shows, potential buyers form hours-long lines to get in, only to pay inflated prices for ammunition and semi-automatic firearms they assume the Obama administration will eventually ban. Noted one merchant at a recent show: “You know, you can pretty much tell that some of the people buying guns here today can’t afford it.”

‘IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID’…OR IS IT?

According to Time, the economy is largely to blame: “Americans are afraid of this economy. As a result, they're getting locked and loaded,” declares the magazine.

The perspective was echoed by the St. Petersburg Herald:

“’Once the economy gets bad, crime always goes up,’ said Bronson, a certified police officer. ‘People get desperate whenever things are not going the way they feel like they should be going, and they'll do things they normally wouldn't do.’”

Really? Then why are people joining gun rights organizations, with no immediate economic or personal benefit? As leader of a gun rights group, I watched as, on election night, new memberships started pouring in through our web site. At gun shows, we sign up new members and volunteers at unprecedented rates. However, poor they may be when it comes to eating out and buying new clothes, they unhesitatingly drop several hundred dollars for upgraded memberships in Second Amendment organizations.

JUST OBAMA? NOT EXACTLY

Barack Obama’s photo with the caption “Gun Salesman of the Year” adorns every gun show. As early as November 11 – just a week after the election – CNN reported:

“According to FBI figures for the week of November 3 to 9, the bureau received more than 374,000 requests for background checks on gun purchasers -- a nearly 49 percent increase over the same period in 2007.”

But attributing booming gun sales to Obama fails to explain the full phenomenon. If gun owners considered Obama such a threat, why did so many vote for him? As I’ve note previously, when my organization did 26,000 phone calls noting the dangers of Obama to unaffiliated gun-owning voters, many called back to tell me I was wrong.

Why did the Oath Keepers form during the Bush administration? And why, when CNN’s Susan Roesgen harassed Chicago Tea Party protestors, did one of them so aptly summarize their reasons for being there as:

“This is not about Republicans or Democrats: This is about the government stealing our money.”

As much as Obama may have compounded the problem, it predates him.

WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASE IN MASS HOMICIDES?

By now, you’ve probably heard of Richard Poplawski, the malcontent who murdered three police officers in Pittsburgh. According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, “Mr. Poplawski, who told friends that he was afraid the government was going to take his guns and that police could not protect citizens during the economic downturn.”

In Binghamton, unemployed 42-year-old Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Voong, complaining that he could not find work and that his unemployment checks were only $200 a week, barricaded the American Civic Association and killed thirteen.

Criminologist James Allen Fox of Northeastern University posits that between 1976 and 2007, mass murders tracked unemployment rates. Clearly, what motivates malcontents to mayhem is often the same pressure facing us all. Adaptive individuals respond with a ballot; sociopaths, with a bullet.

But most of the murderers have not been unemployed, nor have they been vocally anti-government: Neither Obama nor the economy can fully explain the phenomenon.

‘PRESSURE FALLING RAPIDLY’

What do organized protests, burgeoning gun sales and sociopathic violence have in common? They are measures of fundamental discontent.

Americans are fed up:

They’re fed up with their hard-earned money funding government bailouts while corporate executives feel free to rape, pillage and plunder; they’re fed up with illegal aliens stealing the few jobs that aren’t off-shored to Mumbai; they’re fed up with being blamed for corruption and violence in Mexico …

Americans are fed up with having government tell them what guns they may or may not own; they’re fed up with grandmothers getting strip-searched in airports to avoid offending the sensibility of Islamists; and they’re fed up with media elitists making the news instead of reporting it …

Americans are fed up with the fast march to socialism embraced by the current administration, and they are fed up with the abridgment of their freedoms.

In the 1990s, conservatives riled against the liberalism of the Clinton administration; the first decade of the 21st Century was characterized by liberals chanting “Bush lied, people died.”

But the coming decade will be different: Beyond political activists at one end of the spectrum or the other, middle Americans are becoming increasingly disenfranchised. Adding fuel to the fire, along comes our friendly federal government with a report charmingly entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.”

And who exactly is guilty of what the report calls “rightwing extremist hostility?” Conservatives, of course, but also gun control opponents, illegal immigration opponents, and best of all, “disgruntled war veterans.”

“[The Department of Homeland Security] assesses that the combination of environmental factors that echo the 1990s, including heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms restrictions and returning military veterans, as well as several new trends, including an uncertain economy and a perceived rising influence of other countries, may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements. To the extent that these factors persist, rightwing extremism is likely to grow in strength.”

Neatly confirming what the American right has long believed of Obama – that he regards his own people with greater distrust than Islamists – the report stands to feed a “disenfranchisement loop” wherein the federal government distrusts citizens, feeding still more distrust of government … until.

As a professional pilot, let me relay to you what I get in my weather reports. It refers to barometric pressure and its relationship to weather: “Pressure falling rapidly.” I don’t know when the storm will pass, but my personal advice is:

Head for the cellar.


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Interesting.
1 posted on 04/22/2009 6:12:55 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Very well written. Thanks for posting it!


2 posted on 04/22/2009 6:24:31 AM PDT by GBA
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To: marktwain
They’re fed up

Correct statement, but do you want to see what will be the trigger event, it is already happening. And it will not be the Right pulling the trigger.

Look at this map of job loss/gain 2007-2009)

http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/

3 posted on 04/22/2009 6:28:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: marktwain; flat; unkus; SkyPilot; Free ThinkerNY; romanesq; freekitty; oswegodeee; ZULU; ...

Send a copy of this to each member of Congress and the pathetic usurpers in the Administration. Their quest for power coupled with their arrogance has rendered them clueless. They’ve become corrupt and blinded by their Elitism. Their disregard for American history and their failure to live up to the oath they took to protect and defend our Constitution has compromised the American people and left us vulnerable to our foreign enemies. God knows, we have enough domestic enemies at every level of government in this country.


4 posted on 04/22/2009 6:29:04 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Piquaboy

PING


5 posted on 04/22/2009 6:29:44 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Texas Fossil

Sorry, link error.

This should work.

http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/


6 posted on 04/22/2009 6:30:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

ALSO, send a check to Simcox in Arizona who is running against John McCain in the Republican Primary, and a check to Toomey, who is running against Arlen Spector in PA.

MAKE A COPY of the check and mail it to the RNC, McCain and Spector.


7 posted on 04/22/2009 6:34:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: marktwain
"that he regards his own people with greater distrust than Islamists Moslems" Fixed it for ya.
8 posted on 04/22/2009 6:41:43 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I take it you’re a resident of the Republic of Texas?

It looks like Texas is the only consistent job GROWTH state on that map.


9 posted on 04/22/2009 6:43:19 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

You are right on both counts.

I plead guilty to being a native Texan (some of my relatives were here during the Republic of Texas, but most of them came here during Reconstruction after the last Civil War.)

And yes, Gov. “Rick” stated this week at a Tea Party that 70% of the job growth in the last 12 months in the U.S. was here in Texas.

That said, in the U.S. in the last 12 months, the job growth to loss swing was 8,000,000 jobs. Very frightening data.


10 posted on 04/22/2009 6:48:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: marktwain

It doesn’t matter if every American has a gun and box of ammo if they don’t have the will to use them.


11 posted on 04/22/2009 7:03:23 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Map is a nice find. Good data!!


12 posted on 04/22/2009 7:04:57 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Eagle Eye
"It doesn’t matter if every American has a gun and box of ammo if they don’t have the will to use them."

Your point cannot be emphasized enough, if and/or when the rubber ever meets the proverbial road.

13 posted on 04/22/2009 7:08:26 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Eagle Eye
As long as there is sports, beer and boobs nothing will happen. The economy will turn around and guns will be cheap. Sure there will be a few minor outbreaks of discontent but nothing a few cops and the national Guard can't handle. Makes me sick.
14 posted on 04/22/2009 7:11:22 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Eagle Eye

EXACTLY RIGHT!


15 posted on 04/22/2009 7:12:51 AM PDT by Concho (01-20-2009--The beginning of an ERROR)
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To: Eagle Eye

Our founders gave all to bring about this country. I don’t think many would stand up like that now.


16 posted on 04/22/2009 7:18:50 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: Jack Black

CWII ping.


17 posted on 04/22/2009 7:21:34 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Maybe a lot will find the will one day.


18 posted on 04/22/2009 7:26:47 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: marktwain

Disenfranchised and disrespected. From my feeble mind, here is what I see going on. The new govt is spending way too much money that our grandkids will be burdend with. And it’s all make work junk. Won’t stimilate anything except our tax burden. Our president is getting in our face with “We won”. The message to us is sit down and shut up. Deal with it. They are looking to disarm American citizens at a time when crime is going up due to a downturn in the economy. There is a good chance that Mexico is going to spiral out of control, and the govt is labeling US as potential terrorists. Obama is sucking up to Chavez who is sucking up to Iran. We see all these things going on and we wonder, what country am I living in. It appears that the Constitution is endangered by people we elected to run the country. Our elected govt is pushing our economy to a state run institution and there are a lot of us that know they can’t run anything effectivly. Freddie and Fannie are great examples. This new govt is targeting American citizens who do not agree with them. Never before can I remember a political party in charge target the people who make the country work. We do our jobs, pay our taxes, stay out of trouble and try to make this country better off for our kids futures. But now, we have a govt that is working to destroy everything that makes this country great and replace it with policies and practices that have failed every time they have been tried. We are tired of being targeted and insulted. The tea parties were an initial steam release. I do not expect this govt to back off.


19 posted on 04/22/2009 7:26:50 AM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: Eagle Eye
It doesn’t matter if every American has a gun and box of ammo if they don’t have the will to use them.

By the same token, it won't do them much good to have the will if they don't have the gun, and a case of ammunition. But we'll not really know about that will until and if the time ever comes.

20 posted on 04/22/2009 7:44:47 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Joe Brower; bamahead

Bang


21 posted on 04/22/2009 7:57:26 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: ZULU

Good idea.


22 posted on 04/22/2009 8:03:36 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: Texas Fossil
THAT is an excellent map! Just EXCELLENT! Thanks!

I am a cartographer and I approved this message.


Look at this map of job loss/gain 2007-2009)

23 posted on 04/22/2009 8:21:04 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: El Gato

*nod* - That is true... however, supplies may be liberated from the enemy if/when the time comes.

And, lets face it, bombs are EASY [to make] for anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry, physics, & electronics. (Though the last is not necessarily required.) This should be obvious to anyone who has been to Iraq in the past several years.


24 posted on 04/22/2009 8:26:47 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Texas resident
“I do not expect this govt to back off.”

I wholeheartedly agree. The left will use the years to the next elections to entrench themselves, not just in elective office, but at all levels of the many bureaucracies.

Nothing short of uncivil action will return this country to the Constitution, as written. Too many voters are not adversely impacted by taxes, so they vote for the most “entitling” candidate.

Semper Fi, Texas Forever.

25 posted on 04/22/2009 8:33:36 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (Politicians = Proof Positive that Crime does Pay.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
26 posted on 04/22/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: mombrown1; 2nd amendment mama

ping


27 posted on 04/22/2009 8:56:58 AM PDT by basil ( It's time to eliminate all "Gun Free Zones")
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To: kinsman redeemer

Do you think it is an indicator of the coming Train Wreck?


28 posted on 04/22/2009 8:58:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas resident
"The tea parties were an initial steam release. I do not expect this govt to back off."

You captured my feelings very accurately- Buckwheat is not gonna back off, and I expect the tea parties to continue and evolve.

29 posted on 04/22/2009 9:00:50 AM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- The new Jim Jones. USA- The new Jonestown.)
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To: marktwain
Americans are fed up with the fast march to socialism embraced by the [Obama] administration, and they are fed up with the abridgment of their freedoms.

THEN WHY THE HELL DID THEY VOTE FOR HIM?!?
Sheesh!

30 posted on 04/22/2009 9:02:25 AM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: marktwain

I can think of several scenarios where it would be a good idea to be prepared for the worst. I someone decides to assassinate Obama you can bet there will be riots. If the economy continues to tank, the crime rates are going to increase. If a new AWB passes guns and ammo will be at a premium. Etc.


31 posted on 04/22/2009 9:18:48 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Texas resident
You got it in a nut shell, good citizen.

Were getting a New Government, and it has all the answers. Our input is not required (or welcomed)

32 posted on 04/22/2009 9:21:54 AM PDT by oyez (To the extent veterans read it as an accusation -- and apology is owed(i.e. not given))
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To: EdReform; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Americans are fed up with having government tell them what guns they may or may not own; they’re fed up with grandmothers getting strip-searched in airports to avoid offending the sensibility of Islamists; and they’re fed up with media elitists making the news instead of reporting it



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
33 posted on 04/22/2009 9:52:33 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bmwcyle
Our founders gave all to bring about this country. I don’t think many would stand up like that now.

They were definitely in the minority back then, but God, guns, and guts made up the difference!

34 posted on 04/22/2009 10:01:22 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: marktwain

I went down to renew my Ga.concealed Carry permit today in
Carroll Co. things have changed a bit since the last time
I renewed it. Now it’s called a “Firearms Permit”, now it’s not renewed, you have to “reapply”, now it costs $40, now
you have to be RE fingerprinted, all ten fingers twice, Now
you have to fill out a two page questionaire. Now you have to be run through a NICS check.

No infringment indeed.

Before you went to the probate court, filled out one sheet,
Put you finger print on the license form, paid $25 and it was sent out to you.
Don’t like the incrementalism of all this.

Tet


35 posted on 04/22/2009 10:04:05 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain

NOTE: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!


36 posted on 04/22/2009 10:22:52 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

Over and above that, the very text of the legislation they used to ratify it includes “incorporation” language.


37 posted on 04/22/2009 10:41:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (1000110010101010100001001001111)
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To: Texas Fossil
Do you think it is an indicator of the coming Train Wreck?

I'm a cartographer, not an economist.

IF someone held a gun to my head and demanded that I answer the question, I would ask for more data. I'd want to see the maps for other periods of high unemployment (i.e. 1959, 1961, 1971, 1975, 1983 [unemployment was higher then than now], 1992, and 2003). I would want to see the geographic distribution and the rate of change. I would compare those events with the current event.

But I would keep in mind that we did not have a president who was bent on the destruction of the country.

Here is the best indication of a train wreck:

See also: US BLS site for an excellent data source for overall unemployment rate charts.

38 posted on 04/22/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
But I would keep in mind that we did not have a president who was bent on the destruction of the country.

Now That is a statement that I Do agree with.

39 posted on 04/22/2009 11:21:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Eagle Eye
God, guns, and guts made up the difference

Is this another "crevo" thread?

:)

40 posted on 04/22/2009 11:23:10 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: tet68

The additional background checks for your Georgia permit means that many other states, including Texas for example, can now have CHL reciprocity agreements with Georgia.


41 posted on 04/22/2009 11:31:04 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: gieriscm

very interesting... ping!


42 posted on 04/22/2009 11:32:14 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: El Gato

A lot of shooting forums have sellers with inflated prices on reloading components, they are acting just like the people that were first in line to buy an Xbox 360 or a Halo game and they buy as much as they can carry and then go out the store to sell it again to the frenzied desperate buyers.

This the current face of America.

They could care less about patriotism, its all about money.


43 posted on 04/22/2009 11:44:07 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Redcloak

They were lied to by the MSM, though obfuscation and selective reporting. People can only act on the information that they have. A great many people in the U.S. rely on the MSM for most of their political information.


44 posted on 04/22/2009 11:49:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
In the 1990s, conservatives riled against the liberalism of the Clinton administration; the first decade of the 21st Century was characterized by liberals chanting “Bush lied, people died.”

Obama lied, freedom died.

45 posted on 04/22/2009 12:04:36 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Seems like most of the job losses are in states that voted for Obama. If they thought he was going to make it all better are they in for a rude shock.
46 posted on 04/22/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: marktwain

I have never in my entire life seen guns and ammo sold out almost everywhere for MONTHS!!! At first it was mainly the .233/5.56 due to people thinking the AR ban would be re-instated. It is getting worse by the day. Now .22LR .38 9mm all of it is getting scarce. .45 ACP, too. It’s nuts out there.


47 posted on 04/22/2009 12:24:28 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Texas resident

We are tired of being targeted and insulted. The tea parties were an initial steam release. I do not expect this govt to back off.
_______________and I don’t expect the citizens to back off either. The government pushed too much, they may end up regretting it. Their numbers are small compared to the millions of mad Americans and I can assure you, it is NOT only Republicans. Go to DU and read, they are pissed as well.


48 posted on 04/22/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: AlaskaErik
There will be another rude shock, that I would call the Awakening of the Sleeping Giant!
49 posted on 04/22/2009 12:49:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: marktwain
Americans are fed up:

They’re fed up with their hard-earned money funding government bailouts while corporate executives feel free to rape, pillage and plunder; they’re fed up with illegal aliens stealing the few jobs that aren’t off-shored to Mumbai; they’re fed up with being blamed for corruption and violence in Mexico …

Americans are fed up with having government tell them what guns they may or may not own; they’re fed up with grandmothers getting strip-searched in airports to avoid offending the sensibility of Islamists; and they’re fed up with media elitists making the news instead of reporting it …

Americans are fed up with the fast march to socialism embraced by the current administration, and they are fed up with the abridgment of their freedoms.

Good rant,  to which I'd add;

We're fed up with a government that daily exceeds its Constitutionally defined limits by leaps and bounds.

We're fed up with both parties spending our children's future on boondoggles, earmarks, personal perks, and welfare.

We're fed up with ever-more intrusive government that believes we have no right to personal or financial privacy, yet thinks it's perfectly o.k. to have hundreds of billions of our tax dollars funnelled into black budgets where there is zero public accountability. Classifying a proposed treaty on "national security" grounds is par for the course with the out of control monstrosity called the U.S. Government.

We're fed up with a government that claims "ignorance of the law is no excuse", yet they pass hundreds of pages of laws and regulations daily that we are expected to comply with.

There's a hell of a lot more that we're fed up with, but that's a good start.

50 posted on 04/22/2009 1:06:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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