Skip to comments.Presidential Poison (the signal to support prosecutions will haunt Obama)
Posted on 04/22/2009 8:10:00 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
Mark down the date. Tuesday, April 21, 2009, is the moment that any chance of a new era of bipartisan respect in Washington ended. By inviting the prosecution of Bush officials for their antiterror legal advice, President Obama has injected a poison into our politics that he and the country will live to regret.
Policy disputes, often bitter, are the stuff of democratic politics. Elections settle those battles, at least for a time, and Mr. Obama's victory in November has given him the right to change policies on interrogations, Guantanamo, or anything on which he can muster enough support. But at least until now, the U.S. political system has avoided the spectacle of a new Administration prosecuting its predecessor for policy disagreements. This is what happens in Argentina, Malaysia or Peru, countries where the law is treated merely as an extension of political power.
If this analogy seems excessive, consider how Mr. Obama has framed the issue. He has absolved CIA operatives of any legal jeopardy, no doubt because his intelligence advisers told him how damaging that would be to CIA morale when Mr. Obama needs the agency to protect the country. But he has pointedly invited investigations against Republican legal advisers who offered their best advice at the request of CIA officials.
"Your intelligence indicates that there is currently a level of 'chatter' equal to that which preceded the September 11 attacks," wrote Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, in his August 1, 2002 memo. "In light of the information you believe [detainee Abu] Zubaydah has and the high level of threat you believe now exists, you wish to move the interrogations into what you have described as an 'increased pressure phase.'"
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Obama will prosecute GWB and Cheney OVER MY DEAD BODY!
Finally some transparency. Pres—ent Ubama considers the Bush administration as threats but not terrorists and Latin American dictators.
DemocRATS fight to WIN.
Republicant’s fight to WIMP out.
Paul Revere is riding and sounding the alarm.
April 19, 1775. Lexington and Concord.
April 22, 2009—the skirmish line is forming. This issue is the proverbial line in the sand.
Who can he prosecute?
It may be that he is mollifying his base by first supporting the idea of prosecutions and then letting it be known that Condoleeza was in the middle. Now he can let it die.
It will never happen, he will posture and act like he will, but prosecution will shed light on what those interrogations yielded, thus making him look more like a creampuff. He will posture and act for the MoveOn crowd, but he isn’t dumb enough to do anything.
The prosecution and jailing of political opponents.
Karl Rove said, and I’m paraphrasing: “This is what you see in Third World coutries run by colonels wearing mirrored sunglasses.”
I’m kinda with you on that. If BHO would follow through on this, the consensus seems to be it would cost him Independent and moderate Democrat support, and effectively end his Presidency. One has to at least give that some consideration...even though the idea is abhorrent.
All part of the Obowma dictator plan. Haul Pres Bush and VP Cheney up for war crimes. Do not be surprised if he gets the UN to put them on trial.
This is more than a policy change, it is a prescription for revolt. A large segment of this country will not allow this to happen.
This “threat” will be dropped like a hot potato....unless the dummy Dems in Congress pursue it.
Then, keeping it in the Public eye “Bush was nasty to Terrorists” will remind everyone Congress is Ignoring The Economy and Fiddling with Revenge while America Burns.
Yes, this is what third world dictators do. But surely obama knows this. Is he giving in to pressure from the left or is this what he planned all along?
Juan McCain and other like minded Republican leaders should reach out across the aisle once again to their fellow socialists in the Democrat party in the spirit of bipartisanship.
Which is what obama wants in the end, but before it splits he wants to shred the constitution.
I had my issues with Bush, but when it came to protecting us from terrorists, Bush is a hero in my book. If Obama tries to prosecute Bush for saving America while at the same time Obama is trying to buddy up to tyrants and murderers like Chavez and Castro, then this is WAR.
This is 1812 and the Enemy is occupying the White House.
I stand with you!
He is not merely dumber than a box of rocks, he is Evil. He is determined to destroy America. Common sense will not stand in his way.
Barak Obama -- our first 3rd World President?
I doubt Obama is this stupid move for MoveOn, Zaza Huffington, or any of his Nutroots worshipers. I'd bet he has had his butt reamed by his megalomaniac boss, George Sorus.
Maybe Obama thinks he can just throw some red meat to his base, that they'll be satisfied, and then he can divert their attention with another issue before it gets serious, but he may have unleased something he can't stop, since Congressional Democrats aren't under his control.
I hope that the majority of the American public would be appalled at the idea of prosecuting a previous administration over policy differences, and that the Obama gang will refrain from following through (or extraditing anyone to the Hague) for that reason, but I've guessed wrong before.
The more I think about this...the more I think it’s RAZZLE DAZZLE.....better watch out what’s going on elsewhere that they don’t want us to look at....
Yes. When I lived abroad, I was amazed at our navel gazing while things went on all about us. Dangerous things.
The threat alone is a shot across our Constitutional bow.
I wondered what message Obama is trying to send with this nonsense, and to whom. The terrorists or whatever politically correct term now describes them, cut off people’s heads. Bin Laden and his boys are not impressed by Obama saying America is living up to our highest ideals and banning torture and all that.
So I figure the Move on.org crowd and various liberals will get a tingle somewhere on their bodies by this. But this sends no discouraging message to the real evil in the world.
The Left in power does not worry that the other side will pay back in the same coin because the left cannot ever envision being out of power once they have taken power. Clinton talked about repealing the 2 term amendment. I believe Hussein will seriously try it and/or some other method to eliminate term limits for the Left. Amnesty and ACORN should handily accomplish that for the left but Hussein will want it for himself, too. Chavez is the model.
we need to run a highly charismatic ulta conservative Republican in 2012, somebody who understands the meaning of payback.
“That leaves only Bush.”
Hello? Cheney! That’s what it’s about, in my opinion. Bush was never the target.
I don’t think Cheney will be prosecuted. But they’ll try. They’ll have hearings. They’ll haul lawyers, especially Gonzales, in to testify. They’ll refuse to listen to any operatives that tell them enhanced techniques worked. They’ll take every opportunity to smear Cheney. Maybe they’ll even manage to convict one or two nobodies chasing their white whale.
That’s what the whole Valery Plame/Scooter Libby was about.
The “mesage” is to domestic dissidents- i.e. Christians, Conservatives, gun fanciers, etc. Disagreement is criminal.
The chief target right now may be Cheney
One would not rationally think Dick Cheney would be someone easily intimidated. I will stand up for and with this fine American no matter what!
Watched the man on Hannity and sure wish he was in better health, we need a “FU Leahey” sort of guy right now. BUT you never know from the road what lies in the bushes. He sure looked like a very confident patriotic statesman, the sort they had back in 1776. Was nice to see him speaking his mind on Hannity, about the only Republican that will.
This is Soros’ dream come true.
I say bring it. Once a case is filed, the door to discovery is open. Let’s drain this swamp. Depose Pelosi & the rest of the maggots.
Levin has offered the services of his law firm, others will follow. We can raise defense funds.
Bring it, b***h.
Once discovery starts, a lot of dhims will wish they’d never heard of BO.
Anyone else recall when the mentally retarded Speaker was asking if waterboarding was harsh enough?
Let’s go. Get all the memos, we know the good guys have documented everything. Then hit the jackals with subpeonas from here to Kowloom & post every frickin response to every single form interogatory online for all of us to see.
And we can talk about Holder’s conflict of interest since his former law firm defends terrorists.
BO doesn’t have the cajones to do this. Soros just wants to demoralize & thereby disrupt our intel agencies.
Sadly, I think the majority of the American public is busy watching American Idol, and really does not give a damn what game politicians play. (I say that hoping we do not get hit again. If the Democrats push that and we have another 3000 dead in some spectacular attack, that party is out of business.)
If this thing goes forward, it's the political class on all sides that will start peeing their pants. Good policy or bad policy, setting a precedent that something done in good faith could lead you into prison or financial ruin is not why any of them went into the political industry. Deciding that the next set of climbers and clowns in government are somehow entitled to revenge over the previous set over policy differences will end the tradition of of a peaceful transition of power.
It is Third World BS.
Is this a Constitutional issue? If this is, I would like to know. Where in the Constitution is this prohibited?
I'm convinced that George Sorus is nuts. He has no real strategy or goal in mind. He is simply obsessed, but he has all the money in the world, and none of the people around him, including servants like Obama, have the courage or integrity to tell him to go get some treatment.
Ah, but you are wrong. Apparently the real evil in this world, and the greatest threat to this country are conservatives like us. We are the new terrorists. Nothing to fear from Al Quida he is doing everything to be their buddy.
This is clearly the STUPIDEST political move of the last 100 years.
The split will be as violently disastrous as the Civil War...metaphorically speaking, of course.
In a mere 100 days the dims will have completely blown their chance to remake the nation. The "moderate" dims will begin to desert in droves on nearly every controversial issue before the congress and they'll get a fairly severe trouncing at the polls in 2010.
If this moves forward, no matter what else happens Obama is out in 2012, if not sooner.
that would be 1814
The term euphemism refers to the substitution of a vague or milder term for one that may be considered harsh, offensive or blunt.
George Soros is a philanthropist.
If by philanthropist we mean one who creates chaos, destruction and financial ruin for his own personal gain, its a perfect fit. Calling Soros a philanthropist is rather like referring to the Nazi block wardens as Neighborhood Watch
The Kenyan Marxist Commie manchild is insane and controlled by Soros. He’s so pathetic half the time I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
It was Obama.
Remember how, from the day he took office, the Libtards blamed everything that went wrong on Bush? Well I'm doing that with Obortion. We all should.
Can't find a cab?
I blame him for every single thing that doesn't go right. And let me tell you; I know it sounds foolish... but it feels GREAT!
Try it... you might just like it. Not to mention, he and the Dems really have it coming.
Quote of the Day! And true.
Wrong! Bush got 51% of the vote, he was divisive Obama got 52% of the vote so he is well loved by a vast majority of the population...
“This is what you see in Third World coutries run by colonels wearing mirrored sunglasses.”
Could someone please do a photoshop of Obama looking like a 3rd world colonel in sunglasses?
Seems to be a VERY bright line the Dimbulbocrats are about to arrogantly and stupidly step over.