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Pirate Bay lawyer demands retrial
Yahoo Finance ^ | 04/23/2009 | Malin Rising

Posted on 04/23/2009 3:30:51 PM PDT by iowamark

Pirate Bay lawyer demands retrial, saying judge was biased in file-sharing case

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- A defense lawyer in the Pirate Bay file-sharing case said Thursday he will demand a retrial after the judge admitted he was a member of copyright protection organizations.

A Stockholm court last week convicted four men behind the notorious Web site of helping others commit copyright violations and gave them one-year prison sentences.

They also were ordered to pay damages of 30 million kronor ($3.6 million) to entertainment companies, including Warner Bros., Sony Music Entertainment, EMI and Columbia Pictures.

Peter Althin, who represented Pirate Bay spokesman Peter Sunde in the case, said he would request a retrial after Judge Tomas Norstrom confirmed Swedish Radio reports that he was a member of two Swedish copyright groups....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: p2p; piratebay; riaa
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1 posted on 04/23/2009 3:30:51 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

The judge probably has his home page set to riaa.com.


2 posted on 04/23/2009 3:33:21 PM PDT by library user
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To: library user

Oops, this is Sweden, nevermind.


3 posted on 04/23/2009 3:33:57 PM PDT by library user
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To: iowamark

“A defense lawyer in the Pirate Bay file-sharing case said Thursday he will demand a retrial after the judge admitted he was a member of copyright protection organizations. “

I should say so!


4 posted on 04/23/2009 3:34:05 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: iowamark

Those TPB guys are the only foreigners I like.


5 posted on 04/23/2009 3:34:59 PM PDT by exist
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To: exist

> Those TPB guys are the only foreigners I like.

Don’t forget Mininova, my favorite. Better looking interface but doesn’t have the same teeth and directories that TPB is famous for. TPB has vowed never to pay up and it;s still running. Try reading up on every TPB response to company C&D letters in their forums and it’s pure comedy.


6 posted on 04/23/2009 3:40:49 PM PDT by max americana
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To: iowamark

thank goodness civil law countries don’t have juries to deal with


7 posted on 04/23/2009 3:41:14 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: max americana; iowamark

What is conservative about stealing?


8 posted on 04/23/2009 3:43:19 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: iowamark

I hope TPB previals. Any entity that deprives the Hollywood Left of money is A-OK in my book.


9 posted on 04/23/2009 3:48:11 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: DevNet

Nothing. What made you think that?


10 posted on 04/23/2009 3:48:25 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

demonoid.com, ‘nother good one if you can catch an open registration period.


11 posted on 04/23/2009 3:52:30 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: max americana

Because several people are talking about using such sites - this being a conservative forum I thought I would ask why conservatives would steal.


12 posted on 04/23/2009 3:53:11 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Michael Barnes

That’s true, but I have noticed they post under h33t in mini. One can say they’re pretty much a private tracker based on the registration process but they claim they’re not.


13 posted on 04/23/2009 3:56:58 PM PDT by max americana
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To: DevNet

have you been to one of the sites mentioned in this thread?


14 posted on 04/23/2009 3:59:02 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Yes.

But I don’t download from them.


15 posted on 04/23/2009 4:00:09 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: max americana

You can choose private or public..Their difference is on the private side, they filter out the bad IP’s that spawn bogus traffic and bad chunks.


16 posted on 04/23/2009 4:01:00 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: DevNet

Do know of a site called Hulu and do you watch shows on that site?


17 posted on 04/23/2009 4:04:31 PM PDT by max americana
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To: DevNet
Some/most entertainment file sharing may well be a violation of copyright.

Some say that posting and discussing news articles on FreeRepublic is a violation of copyright. Some say that public lending libraries are a violation of copyright. How do you feel about those alleged violations?

There was just a news article on FR about Dept. of Homeland Security canceling newspaper and magazine subscriptions because those were available to read on internal government websites.

BTW, I have never used Pirate Bay.

18 posted on 04/23/2009 4:05:49 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: DevNet
"What is conservative about stealing?"

So called "IP" IS different from physical property. Nothing was stolen in the physical sense. In fact, the use of the word "stolen" is inappropriate.

19 posted on 04/23/2009 4:06:08 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Michael Barnes

Well, Azureus has it’s own plug-in which replaces safepeer or peerguardian which does the job but people who use utorrent still prefer the SF/PG apps as a safeguard.


20 posted on 04/23/2009 4:07:13 PM PDT by max americana
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To: iowamark; DevNet

I have never used TPB either but how do you explain people “stealing’ the latest episode of South Park when it’s shown on South Park.com and other sites such as Hulu? I just downloaded it. Trey Parker and Stone stated they don’t “give a rat’s ass” if they DL it or not.

It’s going to be interesting how Devnet interprets “fair use’.


21 posted on 04/23/2009 4:10:52 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Yes - and those who own the property I am watching have consented to allow it to be shown.

Being that they own it and I support property rights I rather think this is a good setup.


22 posted on 04/23/2009 4:15:21 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Paladin2

You are taking what isn’t yours against the express wishes of the property owner are you not?


23 posted on 04/23/2009 4:16:27 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: max americana

An example of valid fair use is this site.

TPB and related sites aren’t about fair use - they are about getting things for free. If those who produce what you are taking aren’t paid for their work do you think they will keep making it?


24 posted on 04/23/2009 4:17:56 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Paladin2

Do you have the legal right to use the property you are acquiring?


25 posted on 04/23/2009 4:18:43 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
Who says I'm acquiring property?

Besides, Audio files have special properties of use that lend themselves to (near) simultaneous use of a single copy. It's not the same as using a car, for instance.

26 posted on 04/23/2009 4:51:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: DevNet

Who said I’m taking anything?


27 posted on 04/23/2009 4:52:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you own the files in question? Yes or No?


28 posted on 04/23/2009 5:00:37 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
What files are you talking about?

When it comes to audio files of a performance subject to copyright, one doesn't "own" them, one has a license for a copy typically.

29 posted on 04/23/2009 5:11:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Someone owns them. If you distribute copies that the owner(s) didn’t authorize then you are breaking the law.


30 posted on 04/23/2009 5:19:42 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Dude, you are assuming all sorts of things not in evidence. I’d suggest that you tend to your knitting wrt me and actually investigate the nuances of the various forms of so-called IP and be able to distinguish same, in detail, from real property.


31 posted on 04/23/2009 5:24:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you download copyrighted materials from torrent sites against the wishes of those that created it?

Are you one of those people who think that IP should be free for anyone to use - no matter what it cost to make?


32 posted on 04/23/2009 5:27:18 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Do you actually know anything about copyright law?


33 posted on 04/23/2009 5:29:48 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Yes.


34 posted on 04/23/2009 5:33:20 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

It’s not obvious.


35 posted on 04/23/2009 5:36:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

I am not the one who is anti-property rights.


36 posted on 04/23/2009 5:47:41 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
How do you know I'm anti-property rights?

Are you again confusing copyright law with real property law?

37 posted on 04/23/2009 5:50:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you feel that it is acceptable for you to use and distribute copyrighted materials without the authors permission?

It really is a simple question - a simple yes or no will suffice.


38 posted on 04/23/2009 6:03:24 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

What country are they copyrighted in? Is the copyright timed out? It’s never simple.


39 posted on 04/23/2009 6:07:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Current works - you know the ones that 98% of the visitors to TPB are downloading.


40 posted on 04/23/2009 6:12:36 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: iowamark
Some say that posting and discussing news articles on FreeRepublic is a violation of copyright.

The originating site should get a hit each time the news is viewed/discussed on FR.

They need the hits to get the adds to pay the writers. Its only fair.

41 posted on 04/23/2009 6:16:23 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: DevNet
"Current works - you know the ones that 98% of the visitors to TPB are downloading."

My computer has no interest in downloading a torrent of Grade C rap music.

42 posted on 04/26/2009 1:04:09 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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