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Judiciary Committee greenlights 'hate crimes': Members refuse to protect Christian pastors...
World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/23/2009 11:00:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee today rejected an opportunity to protect Christian pastors who preach the biblical condemnation of homosexuality and approved on a 15-12 vote a "hate crimes" bill that supporters admit could be used to bring charges against religious leaders.

The bill, H.R. 1913, now will be considered by the full House of Representatives.

The committee rejected a number of amendments offered by several members seeking to protect religious liberty, to protect the unborn, to protect against violence by illegal aliens, and to clarify the bill's meanings of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation."

One of the rejected proposals was offered by Rep. Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, who sought to ensure ministers could not be prosecuted for abetting a "hate crime" simply because they preach from the Bible or another religious book.

When a nearly identical plan was developed in the last Congress, Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala., admitted during a hearing on the bill it could be used to prosecute pastors merely for preaching under the premise that they could be "inducing" violence in someone.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
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To: Marie2
Do we still have freedom of religion, speech, assembly? Or no?

From the bill:

SEC. 10. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.

Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by the free speech or free exercise clauses of, the First Amendment to the Constitution.


21 posted on 04/24/2009 12:13:02 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NOW comes the back lash of the beloved 501c3 tax exempt status, that all the churches have bought in to.


22 posted on 04/24/2009 12:19:17 AM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pastors will be included with the rest of us conservatives as potential terrorists.


23 posted on 04/24/2009 12:28:52 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: taxesareforever; All

You clearly haven’t read the text of the proposed bill, just as very few people here have. It’s just a taxpayer money-suck to give federal assistance to local investigations of hate crimes. Nothing in this bill will chill religious freedom of speech. Read first, then comment.


24 posted on 04/24/2009 1:18:32 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This should clear up any doubts about whom BO serves!

Yes we can, Thank You Satan

It's not coming folks, it's HERE!

25 posted on 04/24/2009 1:29:10 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Yes we can, Thank You Satan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With solid majorities in both houses of Congress, this must be what the people want. Until we can get these average voters to understand the ramifications of what they’re doing when they pull the lever for the RATS, this is not going to stop.


26 posted on 04/24/2009 3:12:10 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA last weekend. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: Marie2

Would Muslims be guilty, too, or only followers of Christ? My bet is it would most likely be “selective” prosecution of this “crime”.


27 posted on 04/24/2009 3:23:00 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you think we’ll see the first trial of this involving muslims?


28 posted on 04/24/2009 3:27:25 AM PDT by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks to the millions of “Christians” who vote Democrat.


29 posted on 04/24/2009 4:29:05 AM PDT by all the best
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30 posted on 04/24/2009 4:40:00 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, the same will apply to any anti-gay, anti-feminist rhetoric espoused by imams in mosques.

No??


31 posted on 04/24/2009 4:45:30 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Introducing Pretender-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama and the First Cow.)
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To: Markos33
Members of churches with conservative, bible preaching pastors, will have to protect their own.

Passage of this law might very well outlaw the koran in the US, due to the call to kill Jews... You know what they say about silver linings and dark clouds...

Mark

32 posted on 04/24/2009 4:45:38 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Sandy

Please remember that people said the same thing about McCain/Feingold CFR, and that it would never stand after the SCOTUS got through with it...

Mark


33 posted on 04/24/2009 4:47:56 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: WKB; greyfoxx39; Salvation; NYer; Vision; Sopater

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34 posted on 04/24/2009 4:56:01 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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35 posted on 04/24/2009 4:57:04 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All

unbelievable...

1984


36 posted on 04/24/2009 4:59:10 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The USA is rapidly dissolving.

Keep your powder dry, FRiends. The 2nd American Revolution is imminent.


37 posted on 04/24/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Sandy; scan59
Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by the free speech or free exercise clauses of, the First Amendment to the Constitution.

That doesn't mean anything, of course. It's just smoke and mirrors. I wonder how they expect us to "construe" it.

38 posted on 04/24/2009 6:38:34 AM PDT by babyfreep (It's all about control.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

did not even know this was going through the house, So the left is at it again trying to close down free speech and attack christian religion

seems I will be prosecuted then because I will not shut up about how homosexuality is disgusting


39 posted on 04/24/2009 6:49:27 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Markos33
"Members of churches with conservative, bible preaching pastors, will have to protect their own. "

And they will...

40 posted on 04/24/2009 6:52:55 AM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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