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The GOP: divorced from reality
Los Angeles Times ^ | April 24, 2009 | Bill Maher

Posted on 04/24/2009 8:43:22 AM PDT by Zakeet

The Republican base is behaving like a guy who just got dumped by his wife.

If conservatives don't want to be seen as bitter people who cling to their guns and religion and anti-immigrant sentiments, they should stop being bitter and clinging to their guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiments.

It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol." But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

The conservative base is absolutely apoplectic because, because ... well, nobody knows. They're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. Even though they're not quite sure what "it" is. But they know they're fed up with "it," and that "it" has got to stop.

Here are the big issues for normal people: the war, the economy, the environment, mending fences with our enemies and allies, and the rule of law.

And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.

Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?

It's sad what's happened to the Republicans. They used to be the party of the big tent; now they're the party of the sideshow attraction, a socially awkward group of mostly white people who speak a language only they understand. Like Trekkies, but paranoid.

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You #(*%*$# Freepers don't get it!

1 posted on 04/24/2009 8:43:23 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Bill Maher: Divorced from any semblance of respectability.


2 posted on 04/24/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Zakeet

Is this al franken lol


3 posted on 04/24/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Something stinks in DC, oh it is just B.O)
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To: Zakeet

The Tea Partys were a combination of punches to your political head


4 posted on 04/24/2009 8:45:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Zakeet

Bill Maher is depriving a village of an idiot.


5 posted on 04/24/2009 8:45:34 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Zakeet

Love it when they tell us what we must do to win.


6 posted on 04/24/2009 8:45:57 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: Zakeet
WOW! You know I was just thinking "I need someone with real intelligence and understanding to tell me how it is," and suddenly Bill Maher showed up! Thank heavens!

Shove it sideways Bill, you woman-beater.

7 posted on 04/24/2009 8:46:51 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Zakeet

“It’s been a week now, and I still don’t know what those “tea bag” protests were about.”

Well then, you must be pretty damn stupid, Bill - maybe you are as dumb as you look.


8 posted on 04/24/2009 8:47:39 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Zakeet

i have news for this idiot. i run into more obama voters daily that are sorry they voted for this man. they having very quickly learned that the check is not in the mail and it isn’t going to be. they are seeing more jobs lost...more pay cut and fewer low paying jobs on the market because employers now they can get away with it....they see their grocery and energy bills going up...gas has gone up despite oil prices remaining somewhat steady and all the while for the working man and woman what did they get...??...approx 9.00 a week in their paycheck. so if you have no clue as to what the teaparty’s are all about....stay tuned....


9 posted on 04/24/2009 8:48:17 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Zakeet
It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol."

It takes a left-wing protest to see a truly breath taking variety of causes and complaints.

10 posted on 04/24/2009 8:50:21 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: tatsinfla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhaQqN1ZXUU
11 posted on 04/24/2009 8:50:55 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Zakeet

NO, it’s the L.A. Times that is divorced from reality, that refuses to accept the truth.

What would they define as a “healthy party”??? Perhaps one that supports abortion, flinging open the border, granting citizenship for the illegals, promotes gay marriage and kowtows to Obama and the socialists?

Nope, we don’t wanna be the “DemocratLite” Party!

We ARE the opposition, we ARE upset, and we WILL take back our country!

ENOUGH OF THE RINOS!!!
ENOUGH OF “REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE”!!!!
ENOUGH OF COMPROMISING OUR PRINCIPLES!!!!!

It’s time for REAL change, REAL conservatism and REAL leadership!

We conservatives haven’t lost our minds, on the contrary, we are thinking CLEARER than we ever have been before!

WE DECLARE THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY = CONSERVATISM and that the RINOs can all GET OUT!!!!! TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE!!!!

WHO’S WITH ME?????


12 posted on 04/24/2009 8:51:16 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: Zakeet

Sadly, he is right about one thing: belief in limited gov. and personal responsibility IS a radical position these days.


13 posted on 04/24/2009 8:51:47 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: tatsinfla
...and all the while for the working man and woman what did they get...??...approx 9.00 a week in their paycheck.

And that will disappear and be replaced by a considerable increase for all but the least productive when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010.

14 posted on 04/24/2009 8:52:39 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Sybeck1
Love it when they tell us what we must do to win.

A fascist mind is a horrible thing. We conservatives don't project onto others, politically speaking, with such a a natural flare as fascists.

15 posted on 04/24/2009 8:53:14 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Bill Maher = Condescending Prick


16 posted on 04/24/2009 8:53:57 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Zakeet

It’s all about winning and losing to them. They have NO concept of what this country means or what it was founded upon or what it takes to perpetuate it’s prosperity and good fortune.

Who’s divorced from reality, Bill???


17 posted on 04/24/2009 8:54:37 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Zakeet

LOL! And why would any of us listen to a thing he has to say?


18 posted on 04/24/2009 8:54:37 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Zakeet

Looks like Maher wants Rahm Emanuel’s job as TOPOTUS (Tea Bagger of the Pres of the US)


19 posted on 04/24/2009 8:55:08 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Liberalism is a hate crime that can no longer be tolerated.)
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To: Zakeet

Cling to your hookers and drugs Mr. Maher, you are a nothing in the world of something.


20 posted on 04/24/2009 8:55:21 AM PDT by Pilated
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To: Zakeet
Hey Bill, I got something for ya:

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21 posted on 04/24/2009 8:56:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Zakeet

‘It’s been a week now, and I still don’t know what those “tea bag” protests were about.’

First off, Billy boy, they were “tea party” protests. I know you have a fixation with “teabagging” but it’s not shared by everyone.

Second, they were about many things, but the main theme was unsustainable government spending. If you’d taken all of five seconds to look into it you’d have known that. There is also plenty of concern about other anti-freedom, anti-defense, and pro-socialism (or worse) initiatives being pursued by 0bama and his corrupt cronies.

I just hope for your sake you’re prepared for the results in 2010 and 2012!


22 posted on 04/24/2009 8:56:26 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Sybeck1
There's clearly a media drive underway to push the GOP to the left, particularly on social and cultural issues. The far left knows that once they win the culture war, America is history and freedom will be a thing of the past. This is why we're seeing so much of Meghan McCain in the media. And people like her are crawling out of the woodwork on conservative message boards, lecturing us about how “real conservatives” are pro-same sex “marriage”, support open borders, etc.
23 posted on 04/24/2009 8:56:30 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: Zakeet

A whole week and this dope still can’t figure the tea parties out.

The man is a really stupid moron.


24 posted on 04/24/2009 8:57:14 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Sybeck1
Love it when they tell us what we must do to win.

Exactly right!!! They don't want us to ever win again, NEVER EVER. So we should be doing the exact opposite of what their advice is.
25 posted on 04/24/2009 8:57:17 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Zakeet
And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.

Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?


Since the media doesn't cover conservative philosophy in-depth, we sometimes have to settle for symbols and sound bites.

If Maher wrote this column in 1993, he might have listed "deducting used underwear on taxes, dismissing travel office staff, the first lady's unlikely good luck in cattle futures investing, and various bimbo eruptions." In 1994 the Republicans won both houses of Congress.

The things Maher lists are a short-hand for deep, important problems. He did leave out mortgaging our children's future for green government buildings. But substitute spending $800,000 to avoid showing his birth certificate while claiming transparency, inability to not make a gaffe when NOT using the teleprompter, hiring a staff that does not instruct him on protocol, and we have hints of what else might be happening that we don't see.
26 posted on 04/24/2009 8:57:29 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Zakeet
And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.

Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?

As evil and as deceitful as Bill Maher is, he may have a partial point here.

27 posted on 04/24/2009 8:57:34 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in.)
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To: Zakeet
Bill Maher...7.62mm ..head shot.

Have a bad day Bill.

28 posted on 04/24/2009 8:58:12 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (OXI...)
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To: Zakeet

29 posted on 04/24/2009 8:58:21 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I hear the words of Jefferson louder and louder as each day passes)
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To: Zakeet
Bill Maher is mentally ill. There can be no doubt.

I have seen few people who exhibit so much hatred to their fellow Americans.

Nam Vet

30 posted on 04/24/2009 8:58:51 AM PDT by Nam Vet ("Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it." .... Henry David Thoreau)
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To: FormerACLUmember

There is only one that is not true...the nuclear codes...


31 posted on 04/24/2009 8:58:59 AM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: Zakeet

He’s like dissolving into some gray mass of paste. He must have a degenerative disease or something.


32 posted on 04/24/2009 8:59:04 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Zakeet

and the LA times probably wonders why nobody buys their rag.

I would rather listen to chipmunks speak on existentialism that wade through attack ads from supposed (half mad)comics. Too bad the LA Times could not pair this with a opinion piece from Keith Olbermann.


33 posted on 04/24/2009 8:59:45 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Zakeet
Bill,

You must have me confused with John McCain.

34 posted on 04/24/2009 8:59:55 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (It's obvious from Nancy Pelosi's appearance that she tortures people every day.)
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To: JaguarXKE

You know how you can just glance at some people, and before they even open their mouths, you can tell that they’re self-satisfied, self-promoting, tasteless pricks who are full of themselves? Bill Maher is that kind of guy. That was my impression of him when I saw him for the first time. Just knew that he was going to spout garbage, just by looking at him.

Oh, anybody who shows up to a Halloween party dressed as Steve Irwin with a fake stingray piercing his chest (just about 6 weeks after Irwin’s death), deserves NO respect from anyone. Period.


35 posted on 04/24/2009 9:00:54 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Zakeet
Somehow, a mentally deranged, ego-maniacal, narcissist Marxist believes that his "advice" to conservatives would "help" the GOP "regain respectability."

That's been the major problem with the RNC and "elites" within the party -- that's the formula for election losses not electoral landslides!

36 posted on 04/24/2009 9:01:55 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Chi-townChief
Jay Nordlinger has a great comment on the tea parties over at NRO:
I’ve seen many, many pictures of the tea parties around the country. But my favorite was sent to me by a friend this morning. A woman is holding a sign that says, “If Obama Screws Up Health Care, Where Will the Canadians Go?” Perfect, in so many ways. There was also the young woman who held up a sign saying, “Help Me, Mr. Obama — They Want Me to Work and Stuff!”

And I would like to echo a point that Jonah has made: One of the most touching things about these tea parties is the homemadeness of them — the unorganizedness of them. These are just Americans, saying what they have to say: freely and rambunctiously. The signs are all homemade, and all different. Some are clever, and some are dumb. But they’re all individual.

These tea parties are so, so different from the robotized rallies we see from the Left all the time — with their seas of identical, professionally produced signs. It’s no wonder that Anderson Cooper and the like hate them so: hate the tea parties. They go sharply against the modern grain, thank goodness. They are not . . . well, controlled, and official, and approved.

You ever seen a SEIU demonstration? The term Orwellian is too loosely used, but . . .


37 posted on 04/24/2009 9:02:25 AM PDT by Yardstick
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The conservative base is absolutely apoplectic because, because ... well, nobody knows. They're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. Even though they're not quite sure what "it" is.

A socialist pretending to be a cool, youthful hipster used lies, trickery, vote fraud, and a bought-and-paid for media to steal the 2008 election. This socialist has since embarked on a major effort to destroy the economic engine of the United States of America in order to increase the political power of himself and his party in perpetuity.

That, Mr. Maher, is "it". Pretty simple, really.

38 posted on 04/24/2009 9:02:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Zakeet
It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about.

Bill, Bill, Bill... you ignorant slut.

You never will get what they were about. You don't have two functioning brain cells to rub together.

39 posted on 04/24/2009 9:05:59 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Zakeet

Bill sounds even more imbalanced than is common to his frail mind. He may need to change meds.


40 posted on 04/24/2009 9:06:40 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: JimRed

mine already disappeared last week with a 14% pay cut.....


41 posted on 04/24/2009 9:07:16 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: FormerACLUmember
As evil and as deceitful as Bill Maher is, he may have a partial point here.

No he doesn't. He's obfuscating the facts, and you are buying into it, partially. Each one of those things listed is a symptom of the underlying problems, or an outright lie. The left knows it can't win on the facts, and/or can't tell truth from lie, so instead of bringing the discussion up, they have to drag it down to a level where conservatives get frustrated, throw their hands up in disgust and walk away.

Not anymore; we can't afford that. We have to learn to get down in the muck and either push their heads underneath it, drowning them, or drag them kicking and screaming into the light of day.

42 posted on 04/24/2009 9:09:44 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Since the media doesn't cover conservative philosophy in-depth

Seems nobody does. Maher does give a good take on what most Americans saw of the tea parties. Very little was actually covered on liberty.

We have to make a better effort at focusing on the loss of liberty than we do of it's symptoms. We need to become better spokesmen for our founders ideals.

43 posted on 04/24/2009 9:10:38 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: Zakeet
It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about.

In that case Bill, better to keep the mouth shut and be thought an idiot than open it and remove all doubt.

44 posted on 04/24/2009 9:14:47 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Zakeet

No puke alert!!!


45 posted on 04/24/2009 9:15:57 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Sybeck1

Love it when they think we are interested in their opinions.


46 posted on 04/24/2009 9:16:17 AM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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To: armymarinedad

Obama Didn’t Know Nuthin’ Of The Tea Parties – But The Rest Of The World Did!

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10417

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An amazing thing happened on Wednesday, April 15th, Tax Day, when nearly a million people took hours off from their workdays – many sacrificing pay cuts and even the threat of being fired – to attend thousands of Tea Parties across America. What motivated this huge number of Republicans, Conservatives, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, and even apolitical people to come out in mid-week with placards aplenty and passion unprecedented? It was to tell President Obama that they rejected and resented just about everything he and his radical-left Congress have foisted on our nation during his 90-plus days in office. These include:

•A frontal assault on free-market capitalism
•Zero transparency and accountability for the billions already doled out – where has it gone?
•Rising unemployment
•Trillions of dollars of debt for us and our children and grandchildren
•Infringement of freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, including free speech, gun ownership, freedom of religion, et al.
•Obsequious overtures to the world’s biggest despots, all of them America’s sworn enemies.
•Passage of H.R. 1388, or the “domestic security force” that eerily mimics Hitler’s brown shirts, or, as Obama stated: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
•Aggressive moves to nationalize the press, resurrect the “Fairness Doctrine,” and give the president the legal authority to shut down the Internet in the “interest of national security.”
•A cap-and-trade tax that will effectively kill commerce
•Full-speed-ahead on destroying the coal industry
•Ceding the resolution of legal issues to the cesspool-of-corruption known as the United Nations and transnational courts
•Steps to obliterate the “conscience clause” that allows doctors, nurses and pharmacists the right not to participate in the infanticide procedure known as abortion
•Unforgiveable insults to our military by calling them potential “domestic terrorists.” Other “terrorists” listed in the Department of Homeland Security report were anyone opposed to abortion, anyone in favor of immigration enforcement, pro-Second-Amendment lobbies, and anyone protesting big government.
•A vile insult to Catholics when the White House insisted on having Christ’s name covered by black plywood when the president spoke at Georgetown U. – why was he invited?
•A despicable insult to Jews when career anti-Semite Charles Freeman – President of the MEPC Arab lobby and a board member of the American Iranian Council – was appointed head of the National Intelligence Council, but ultimately stepped down, confirming in his own words his animus toward Israel.
•Declaring carbon dioxide an environmental pollutant… another scheme to impose draconian and business-murdering taxes on Americans, while at the same time refusing to drill for oil and build nuclear facilities, all in the name of the colossal hoax known as man-made global warming. Let’s hear it for windmills!
•The coming manipulation of the U.S. census by community-organizers from ACORN – under investigation in more than 12 states for voter-registration fraud – which received $5-billion of tax-payer’s money in Obama’s “stimulus” package
•An utter failure to intercede in a timely fashion to save Captain Richard Phillips from the Muslim Somali terrorists in the Maersk Alabama incident.

As I’ve often said about what appears to be President Obama’s Marxist agenda…this is the short list! The longer list includes cabinet members and advisors who would have been instantly rejected by your friendly deli owner or housewife, so steeped have they been in tax cheating, conflicts-of-interest, and criminal investigations.


47 posted on 04/24/2009 9:16:46 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (We're Not In Kansas Anymore, Toto!)
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To: Zakeet
Liberals, ignore us at your own peril. At some point we may stop talking at all, then you will have real problems
48 posted on 04/24/2009 9:17:18 AM PDT by stockpirate (The NAZI's called themselves - "The Children of the New Age of World Order")
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To: Zakeet

I don’t what he’s smoking but the damage can’t be reversed.


49 posted on 04/24/2009 9:20:18 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Zakeet
It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol." But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

Here's the current tactic of liberals toward the tea-party groundswell: that's it's fueled solely by supporters of the GOP, and that it lacks the carefully planned focus of staged left-wing protests featuring the same full-time protesters at every city.

But that's the thing about real groundswells that aren't organized and photo-framed by left-wing groups - people bring their own issues. Only a fool could not know what the tea-party movement is concerned with - the radical expansion of government under the new Democratic regime. There's also a healthy dose of anger at the Republicans, who laid the groundwork for the grotesque increases of government spending and debt we're seeing now.
50 posted on 04/24/2009 9:21:06 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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